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RE: Anarchy and Dealing With The State
No, it's not like saying that resisting a thief is in itself a robbery, I do not see the analogy there. The reality is that we like it or not, the human being is a biological organism, and that does not resist in any circumstance of its nature. Society as a grouping in itself requires the imposition of social individuals on antisocial individuals.
So, for example, if a totalitarian dictator and his army of men impose a totalitarian society to the social body through the use of force or using the threat of using force, the only possible way in which a group of individuals or people in General could implement an open and free society, it would be to impose by force or with the threat of force its model of society.
Society requires zero imposition. Voluntary exchanges and associations work, and they work better than coercion.
I am not saying that a free society is not better and much more prosperous, I say that it requires imposition, not on its citizens, but on those who are oppose to free society. For example, the founding fathers to form a free nation had to use force against the Britannic Empire. Force does not always have to be used, sometimes only the threat of using it is enough.
That's like saying it requires imposition to resist a mugger. That doesn't make any sense.
Nothing in a voluntary society precludes people choosing associations of which I disapprove, provided they leave others alone.
Let's put it like that, what happens if I do not want to? If I take a rifle and I prevent you from forming a free society, would you do nothing or defend yourself? no matter the result one way or another there would be imposition.
You're equivocating initiatory aggression and resistance to said aggression. The aggression is imposition. Defense against it is not. Telling you to stop imposing on others is not itself an imposition.
Imposition definition: a thing that is imposed, in particular an unfair or unwelcome demand or burden.
What happens if your model of society is an imposition for me? Yes your rules do not like me?
How does my demand that you not initiate aggression against me either directly or by proxy (in other words, impose upon me) create an imposition on you?
I am not trying to build a model of society, I am trying to describe how society works in spite of imposition by statists.
Ok, I'll try to explain myself as best I can. I am a supporter of free association and free societies, however, there are people, for example, who want a strong, large, planned and bureaucratic state, or they impose themselves, using force or not, or simply people like I, we want a small State and more freedom we do it. For them a model of free life, is a way of imposition to which they will always resist, and for others like me, the all-powerful states represent an imposition. Why imposition? simply by abiding by the norms that society dictates. No model of society is exempt from antisocial behavior.