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RE: Is Government Obsolete?

in #anarchy7 years ago (edited)

OK, so before i get into criticizing/arguing mode, let me tell you why I often find myself agreeing with anarchists. Our current governments and political system as a whole is doomed beyond repair. We need a fresh start.
When I am arguing for a left or social way, I certainly dont want people to vote Bernie or the german far left party. They are all corrupted as well and are "playing the game". But we need to change the game and those people (other lefties) often dont see that.

I feel like many of you people (pun intended) are often ignoring the question of management. You claim there is no need for government , but only truly argue why we should get rid of today's form of government. Ie "bloated bureaucracy" is one of the main evil forces I see especially in Germany and while this is caused by government I dont think massive bureaucracy is necessary for a state.

You also mentioned "smart contracts" as a replacement for government. To me a fair framework for individuals to act in is exactly what government should be. So "smart contracts" are in a way government to me.

I hope this makes sense to you. I actually think this is like many times a question of definition and language. To me government is a system that offers mechanism for a just and fulfilling life for the individual. You would also think what you would have to do with people who behave in an unmoral way, in example kill another human. You would agree on some way or another how you would treat him, that is governance to me.

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I actually think this is like many times a question of definition and language.

This is exactly what I was going to say when I read this:

To me a fair framework for individuals to act in is exactly what government should be.

I believe that structures and systems can serve an important role in protecting people and enacting justice. But those systems are not necessarily "government." The difference is that a government is made up of people who believe they have the moral right to rule over others.

It's clear to me now that you're operating on a different definition haha.

Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

It is actually great to see you agree on the definition problem. It came up in discussions I had with other Anarchos before but I was not really able to put it into words.

I also know how I title my post about Anarchy: "Anarchos are just Socialists with a definition problem":D. Even if Steemit does not receive it that well, I love to make these youtube-style clickbait headlines. :3

In some forms of socialism it is actually a strong notion that no human should have power over another. Many of my socialist goals in school debates (18 years ago) got criticized, because you would need complete voluntarism to achieve them.

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