You are viewing a single comment's thread from:

RE: I am an Anarchist.

in #anarchy7 years ago

Funny thing is most ceo's and aristocrats, high levels of hierarchies, operate under anarchy most of the time amongst themselves, even if they have other relationships that are hierarchical. Like at a board meeting, all of the people there are rich and are there to make money, most of the time they are all their own people. Sometimes however there are people on the board who are there as puppets, but a lot of the time probably not.

There is only not-anarchy when someone else is directly being bossed, told what to do and/or dominated. When someone else is acting out of someone else's will against their own concern and judgement.

There are however some rare examples of people at the high levels of society bossing each other around, here I will post a classic, enjoy:

rothchild and prince.png

Sort:  

This is largely consistent with my observations. Most of the time it's about groups that meet each other at eye level. Sometimes they are even playing chicken with outsiders, testing people's self-esteem. Most everyday people are trying to dominate you, or are happy being dominated - only able to cooperate under a common leader following orders, or acting against a common imagined enemy. Without a leader or a common enemy they will fight against their own people, so they do not fit in a anarchistically organized group. They can only be used as heelers or subduers.

this is why anarchy besides the things you mentioned in the OP is a philosophy and political system of educated people.

The american system, as has been often stated, is one that has for many years been intentionally under-educated so that they will be more easy to control and more likely to go fight, for instance, in afganistan and still stupidly think they are 'defending america' while they guard heroin plantations for the mafia.

An uneducated human is worse than an animal, they will act without virtue and convince themselves either that it is actually virtuous, or they have no choice. A lion who eats an antelope won't say 'well, he was going to get eaten anyway' or 'lions are just better than antelopes' or 'this is just the cost of doing business' or some such like the lion is some moral hero for killing another being.

humans, like i said, will travel to the other side of the world thinking they are defending their home and not think twice about it if they are getting a paycheck.

hard to feel much allegiance or pride in being part of any of it. it is quite disgusting.

You're right. For an intelligent and/or feeling human being it is not possible to understand how it is possible to indoctrinate western people/society in a way that they are really thinking that they are fighting a defensive war in Afghanistan against people not able to construct simple cars, for example. They do not have any possibility to attack any western nation in any other way than from within it's own boarders. Nazi-Germany was not superior to Poland at the beginning of WW2 to an extend as the US is today to Afghanistan, the whole Arabic world and a large portion of this planet.

Good example. Another thing is the world is basically anarchic. If you're coming form outer space you see a planet with land forms and oceans, as you get closer, you see the billions of people and their creations, none which you can tell much about and even the controllers(the State, elites, etc) operate under anarchy between one another as you say.

Personally I am really fascinated of the concept of self-organization. One unsolved problem is that the evolving organizational structures are becoming institutions over time, loosing their purely functional role- Over time their primary role will become self-preservation, destroying the people's ability to self-organize in an other way.

Law of diminishing returns applied to social organization?

I see the similarities, but assume they are only sketchy. It is maybe more like a contract with a large telecommunications provider with cancellation period going to infinity or terms for dismissal artificially covert.

to want humans to be able to travel to other planets and inhabit them, you have to believe that humans aren't a disease. that we aren't going to destroy those planets like we are destroying this one. as such i personally and relatively indifferent about space mining and sending humans to mars. at this stage the vast majority of humans on earth are people who eat and contribute very little. the majority of children born are born so their parents can pat themselves on the back and be boss over babies and little kids to accrue status, not because they actually think life on earth is good or that the world needs more people because have done the math about consumption vs the capacity of the land base.

as such, our politics and societies are garage. 99% of what is broadcast in mass media is garbage, the entertainment is garbage and the credibility of the news is garbage, the output of society is mostly garbage.

we are, however, tied to the mast of the ship. we are like the old celtic wooden statues they would put criminals in and then light on fire. if what passes for civilization collapses, we all go with it. and the morality of the people is such that as soon as the shelves at 711 are empty, it's going to be cannabilism within a few days and anyone capable of self sufficiency that isn't 500 feet underground will be the first to go.

As such, it behooves us to at least maintain what passes as civlization because we are under threat of death to endanger it. the institutions, ie banks, know this and are holding it over our heads. underneath all the flags and national anthems, this is the hard reasoning.

i also personally believe that we are past the tipping point of climate change, and that nuclear weapons are going to be used because the people and ideas don't exist at the high levels of society which could alter the values away from suicidal decisions.

we are ruled, as derrick jensen and many others write about, by a death cult. human civilization in 2018 is not about life, it is about racing to a faster death. poisonous food, poisonous drugs, expensive medical care, vampiric prey upon the youth, ruled by debt and fear, etc.

idk the human mind can be self organizing, magnetic balls can be self organizing, but everything else takes effort or overcoming some serious improbability to organize. the cell seems to self-organize, planets rotating a sun seem to self organize, although at various stages of their development are total chaos.

humans are tasked with saying something intelligent about the problem, our advantage is our brain and if we don't use it to actually be smart, then we will be no more successful at evolution than jellyfish and cockroaches. actually the jellyfish and cockroaches will win.

You are right on so many levels. Maybe in this case 'colonization' of other planets should not be viewed as exporting of a inferior product called (western-)civilization but as a escape to unoccupied spaces.
The masses of people should think about their 'leaders' by thinking in a way like "Someone feeding me with trash and garbage, isn't he only able to do this if in his eyes I am trash and garbage ?"

Coin Marketplace

STEEM 0.19
TRX 0.17
JST 0.031
BTC 87962.02
ETH 3341.45
USDT 1.00
SBD 2.89