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A system that can't protect it's peaceful people is inferior to one that can. The basic task that all states must do is protect their territory from other states, in the absence of a state who will protect your territory from other states? How do you solve the problem of the Chinese showing up to your utopian paradise and subjugating you?

You assume they had no system of protection. Why? Did you watch the video?

Should folks peacefully herding goats be blamed for getting droned by US foreign policy?

Missing the bigger picture here and making assumptions.

“Dinosaurs will get eaten by wolves” was a better (at least it was silly/funny) argument than saying “might makes right.”

Maybe that’s not what you’re saying. Either way, watch the vid so you can make some accurate criticisms, and the let’s talk.

Throwing around the tired ass “utopia” straw man isn’t helping either of us.

The basic task that all states must do is protect their territory from other state

Really??? Sure looks like the basic task is to conquer other states (at least where the US is concerned) and extort/subjugate the populace.

How is 1,000 years of relative peace in relative anarchy a “failure”? That’s nuts. How many years of peace has your “superior” extortion racket enjoyed in a row?

I watched the video, you stopped answering my questions about it, Dawn Defense is going to stop the Chinese? That will work as well as the disorganized Irish stopping the British wouldn't it?

It's a failure because it failed, it no longer exists, it is extinct because it didn't work.

You are complaining about imperialism and the US is guilty of that to some extent but you are using that as a criticism of all government, are all governments imperialistic?

Goat herders being droned is not really relevant to this specific discussion, unless you are using it as an example of how a tribal confederation without a strong central government can't protect it's people from being drone fodder from the US or any other state.

Not that they had no system, my assumption was that their system failed because it no longer exists and that it failed because of a basic and inherent flaw to that system, it's inability to protect people living in such a system from hostile states.

Not that video. The video about Brehon law/the Brehons.

If you are convinced humans are mostly bad and need nanny states made of these same bad people to “protect everyone,” that’s fine. I’m convinced the market can provide better solutions (it already does).

We’ll just have to disagree.

I think people are mostly good. There is no place you can point to where people live as you describe and thus you have to use a historical example but you seem not to want to look at why it failed. You need to come up with a system of anarchy that can prevent those living under it from being subjugated by the Chinese or Islamic jihadists.

Bullshit. All I have to do is walk out my door to find people living that way. Again. Watch the video or learn something about what happened prior to silly, baseless attacks.

1,000 years is a failure?? Billions of people around the world interacting peacefully right now, with not state agents around is a failure? Nah. The status quo statist system is definitely successful when it comes to killing people. Maybe that’s what you mean.

I don’t “need” to do anything. There are plenty of resources out there with which you could educate yourself here, instead of the sarcastic sand throwing.

“The Chinese” would be no match for a country full of well-armed, free market governed individuals. Do you think they’d magically go back to carrying only muskets or something?

All the people you see when you walk out your door are free from Chinese subjugation thanks to the US state and their own historical militancy.

Not what I meant, but I’m going to bow out here as you refuse to even study the things you are criticizing.

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