A back and fourth with a crazy anarchist.

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It is about free market solutions to your problems in a free, "no rulers" society.

America already is such a society, who exactly do you consider to be your ruler in America? The free market is very good at solving some problems and terrible at solving others.

I am an individual. You can call me an anarchist or whatever. I am a voluntaryist, who wants interactions to be voluntary, like every sane person.

It sounds great, unless you think about it. In reality all people don't automatically do the right thing, some people do the wrong thing, and they require force to be made to do the right thing. Sane people recognize that fact.

I choose to disassociate from you. So will every peaceful person, so you better don't be so open about your aspirations. Eventually you will have no one to cooperate with, if your values are rape, abuse, slavery and whatever beautiful colors you used to paint your picture of a sociopath.

You might want to actually learn about what sociopathy actually consists of, if you actually understood the condition you wouldn't make such a silly claim. I doubt you will dissociate like you claim also, we'll see.

You will either become self-sufficient or starve.

That's funny, plantation owners usually eat pretty well as far as history has shown. You assume everyone will possess the same judeo Christian values as you do, a billion Muslims don't have any moral objection to slavery.

I gave you the courtesy of giving you the sources that answer your questions, which you failed to find yourself, as every adult should, if they are really looking for answers. But you don't. You are a stubborn moron that tries to prove some cretinism with more cretinism.

Nope, you just proved that all you are is angry and unable to answer simple questions to defend your views, you did that when you resorted to name calling and youtube videos instead of just answering what should be simple questions, in fact I could answer them for you with the correct anarchist/voluntarist responses but I want you to come up with them so then I can ask you the next set of questions.

Why listen to me when you have nobslist and professors who dealt with all your delusions?

LOL What you have there is a textbook example of the appeal to authority fallacy, another invalid argument. I love how heavily many anarchists rely on the appeal to authority fallacy, given their general disdain for authority.

If you failed to do your research and openly refuse to check the knowledge that is out there, which I already did half of your job and gave it to you, just to willfully stay dumb, ignorant and arrogant, it is your freedom to do so. Stop wasting my time. I am under no obligation to be your teacher.

I told you, I have already watched what anarchists like you assured me were the best youtube videos to educate me, yet they fail to answer my questions or adequately deal with reality. Even those given by professors and "nobslist".

You did not ask any questions really. You write some strawman logic, talking some idiotic ad hominems and expect to be respected for it.

That looks like a good example of projection, I didn't do any of those things, but you have done so.

You will be treated how you deserve to be treated. Your actions have a reaction. I do not see any reason to reason with the insane people. It is a waste of time. If you want to know more, be better today than yesterday, then do it and have the decency of checking my reply. If you are interested in proving your point with lack of knowledge, fine. But I am not interested in "debates" with mentally challenged. I do not want to be around people like you. It is my freedom to choose so. I associate with people I want to. I decide about my life, not you, not your political master, not your mob of mad apes, who vote for their master.

mad apes with a master? that's exciting, who is it? Clearly you are not being honest here, you are very interested in debating me, look at the length of your reply.

These "questions" are hard for you, because you lack the knowledge, imagination or basic culture to check what you asked for. I do not have time for your silly, trivial games.
You deliberately quoted a part of what I wrote to be able to keep lying to yourself and believe in your own lies... you are an insane person.

Good example of false ad hominem. And of course clearly you do have the time, it must have taken a while to write this rant.

Smiting you intellectually with words and opinions about your behavior is not an act of aggression. I have a moral duty to expose a violent retard that admits he is a fan of rape, slaughter, slavery and abuse, because you need to be watched, in case you would act on it. If words are an initiation of aggression to you, then you are even dumber than I thought and you are just proving my point.
You are free to express what you would like to do to people; rape, murder and enslave. You are free to praise Satan. As soon as you will act on your values, you should be stopped. It will not be an aggression, but defense.

Lucky for both of us the hypothetical childish pipedream world where there are no laws and no state to enforce them will never ever exist so everyone will continue to be bound by the laws whether they agree to them or not. Apparently you didn't understand that was a rhetorical stance, that's funny.

Do you language? Do you logic?

LOL Do you JAQ?

Which part of choosing an arbitrary or security agency is mob rule in your opinion, dummy?

"dummy" not triggered right? good rhetoric. In such a case whichever agency the majority of people picked would rule wouldn't it? Then they would either destroy, undercut or buy out all competition. That's just good business.

Your mob voting on your master who will write threats, what he will do to me, if I do not obey, is exactly the definition of mob rule, you fucking gang-raper.

LOL now I am a "fucking gang raper"? Now "the master" is writing threats to you, I see, and you feel like I sound insane?

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I seem to make a lot of threats? Name one out of these "many". You are delusional. You do not know what reality is.
I do not admit any of your ad hominems. This hallucination is only in your sick head.
Dude, better STFU because I am about to unleash all the peaceful people on you, so they smite you back to the cave you crawled from. You should be separated and taken care of.

you are on your way to extinction.
I would shoot you right in your face straight away as you are just a waste of oxygen on this planet.

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You were expecting to be praised and get a positive response to admitting you are a violent retard? Oh, well done on wanting to slaughter people. Good boy!?

LOL, derp, were you expecting praise? was that why you post things online? I wonder where that projection came from.

If I do not find your values to not be repulsive, it is an aggression? Did you take your meds today already?

Meds? Sounds like another projection, at the very least a pathetic and mealy mouthed ad hominem from someone without the ability to form a logical argument, what "meds" have you been prescribed?

You really should. Get of my blog you piece of shit. You make it dirty.
I have 0 respect for you right now and could not care less what a sociopath thinks.
If you have not learned, or did not develop natural human instincts, to know how and want to be a good person, but instead you want to slaughter people, I think you should experience this done to you, so maybe you will wake up out of your rabid ape dream.

There is no natural human instinct to be a good person. That's why there are so many people who are not, not because governments exist. Really all the anger and bluster at government just makes me think that you are mad at your dad. In reality studies show that 90% of people can admit they have had a homicidal thought and that the other 10% are lying. usually when we get to this point the anarchist is so angry and can't make any reasonable arguments so they just issue profanity laced commands for me to go away with all my mean questions.

If you need your master to tell you how to be a person, then you should extinct already.

I am sure I didn't say I needed "a master" what a bizarre theme to your rant. Again you express a desire to see strangers made extinct.

You are the scum of the Earth. Why are you expect anyone should even want to talk with you?

I expect that you will respond promptly to this post.

You are an engendered specie, that needs to extinct ASAP. You are not even fully human. How the hell evolution skipped you is beyond me, but I think there must be a reference point to goodness, so this is why you even exist. So the goodness could exist, as a contrast of opposites... but what would you know about dualism, philosophy and spirituality if you are a zombie?

Now I am a "zombie", interesting, I can't speak for zombies but I do have a degree in Philosophy. Note how I can calmly answer your bizarre and insulting questions but you couldn't do the same for the simple and polite questions I asked.

This is all I want from you. To finally extinct and make room for humans.
But here, just to shut your stupid yap, so you don't run around like a proud pigeon, you should talk to instead of trying to pretend you grown up to a debate:

"you should talk to instead of trying to pretend you grown up to a debate"! lol, that makes sense.

but if you need to perpetrate some retributory or punitive violence then ideally the state will do it for you because if you allow individuals free reign in doing so then you have vigilantism which is even more arbitrary and violent than any centralized authority, mob justice and lynching are not preferable to legitimate civil and criminal laws.
Not free reign and mob lynch, but people agreeing through consensus what rules serve them. Not some sociopath like you, a politician, a stranger, centralized master of morons, writing threats, and calling them laws that apply to the whole of humanity. I do not give my consent for rules I do not like. If I do not stop anyone from their pursuit of happiness, I should not be the subject of some threats of a sociopath that wants to rule me. They cannot be forced upon me, no matter how much you hallucinate.

Oh, the laws can't be made to apply to you? You just proved why the idea of everyone having to consent to the laws is silly, no one would consent to them ever being applied to themselves for no reason. What you just described is the mindset of a sociopath, they believe the rules do not apply to them, that's the core feature.

No one has the right to aggression. You cannot delegate the right you do not have to a politician. I do not believe in magic.

yes, clearly you do, you believe there are magical "rights" that somehow exist outside of those rights recognized and supported by the government, there are no such rights. No "natural rights" exist.

If we had no police and instead had to hire private protection agencies would you hire one with a reputation for weakness or one that would strike fear into the hearts of your enemies?

Police is a monopoly. Politicians have monopoly on violence. So your argument is, that thousands of agencies, could become as bad as the monopoly you are advocating for?

My argument is actually that thousands of agencies meting out violence without any central oversight would be much worse than just one and that those agencies would always consolidate because there would be no mechanism to prevent them from doing so and doing so would be advantageous.

How dumb are you? Self-contradicting much?

angry and juvenile much?

How can you form a monopoly without a government writing it into law?

Governments are and can create monopolies but they are also the only mechanism that can restrict monopolies from forming. If I am in business I will buy out, undercut or in a scenario without a government to stop me kill anyone who tries to be a competition to my monopoly, right? The only thing that stops corporations from doing that is antitrust laws, the unregulated free market can't stop a monopoly.
A law was not written to create all the oil and steel trusts for example a law had to be written to destroy them.

A customer makes a service provider wealthy based on the quality of service they provide. An agency fucks up once and looses all customers to the competition.

Not usually. Maybe sometimes, GM knowingly killed hundreds of Americans by selling cars with deadly defects they knew about, have they gone out of business? Does no one buy their cars? In terms of an agency if I am hiring them and they treat the criminals I hire them to deal with badly then that is a good thing, I will keep using them, your goal in hiring a security agency would be primarily to ensure that they treated the criminals nicely or fairly?

You do not know what demand and supply is?

I am sure I didn't say that, another straw man

So how dare you debate anyone? *You have no basics knowledge of economy.

You seem to lack a basic knowledge of grammar but I wouldn't tell you not to debate anyone.

Yes, I do prefer that local communities deal with the issues within the people who voluntarily agreed on rules and decide through consensus how to deal with a rapist like you. I would advocate for dissasociating from you, so you have to either change your ways, so others start trusting you and want to give you another chance, or you would have to become self-sufficient, which means you would become some farmer, struggling to survive, which you deserve.

LOL what a bizarre fantasy in which I am forced to become a farmer for upsetting you in an online debate by suggesting that not all people have a slave mentality.

Your questions are on a level of some psychopathic child. Why would I choose protection from service provider that sucks?
Dummy?

When was the first time someone called you a "dummy"? I didn't ask about "a service provider who sucks", another angry and juvenile straw man.

That is the point. No on would, so the service provider would go bankrupt and replaced by better one. Again, you do not understand the concept of free market.
Why would they bother to compete? I dunno? To have customers?

But if you engage in competition then you will only have some of the customers, if instead you form a monopoly then you can have all of the customers, do you see how that is better from a business standpoint?

Otherwise I will open a security agency that provides what people need and want and they are gone.

Then they have two very effective options in the scenario where there is no central government, you can join them or they can kill you. At the end of the day though you will not be a separate agency competing with them.

Why would they consolidate, if they were not sociopathic retards like you? Hard to imagine in your sick head, huh? Well this is how normal people function. You are not a good sociopath if you haven't even learned what motivates healthy people. People just want to love and be loved. They do not want to hurt others like you do, ass-wipe.

LOL, we went from talking about security agencies to people just wanting love! LOL do corporations and security agencies just want to love and be loved? Is that why people go into business, so they can love and be loved? Is that why people become private security guards, so they can love and be loved?

Great answer, I should have watched the video! Monopolies will be stopped because no one would ever want to form one because they want to love and be loved! Government is why there is no love man! Without laws corporations would not exist to make money or serve their shareholders, they would love and be loved, and never consolidate with other corporations!

So your entire argument is that you do not rape and slaughter because of fear of going to jail.

Not really, a lot of people commit violent crimes now even with the threat of prison, my argument is that without it even more would and there wouldn't be much you could do, sort of a shootout or calling a gang of hired thugs, to stop them. Most people are incapable of gun fighting and many people can't afford hired thugs, those people would be shit out of luck, easy pickings.

How about the fear that any father of raped girl, any good person protecting themselves from your aggression would shoot you in your dumb yap? Would this stop you?

That assumes that everyone is capable of protecting themselves again, most people are not. Are you saying that people in such a case would have no reason to keep the girl or any witnesses alive?
What about girls who don't have fathers that care about them? Who protects them if they can't afford to become gunfighters or hire goons of their own?

How about 7,5 billion people stopping 1% of retards like you?

At least a billion are Muslims, they don't care what I do to infidels. Funny how you use the word "retard" makes you seem angry and stupid, how did you feel the first time you were called that?

No jail. If you get unlucky and you would do something in a community that does not tolerate insane people, your dick would be cut off inch by inch... it would take 2 cuts to get rid of your tiny dick and then move on to your fingers, tongue...

Cruel and unusual punishments, somewhat homoerotic too, thank God I live in America where I have a right against such punishments as you fantasize about. So you would volunteer to have your dick cut off?

In my community, you would be separated and treated, but would have to work all your life to repay a tiny portion of the suffering you caused.

And "the community" would decide that and then impose its will on me?

If you go to jail, your victims do not get anything from you. They have to pay for your accommodation, food and whatever.

That's why we have restitution orders and civil lawsuits, so that victims can receive remuneration. A lot of victims are in the class that can't afford your private security agencies, they don't pay any federal taxes now yet they receive the full protection of the federal government. In your world these people would rely on the kindness of bystanders to protect them right?

But if you would come to my house and threaten my, or my family's life... or anyone really... I would shoot you right in your face straight away as you are just a waste of oxygen on this planet.
You get it now fucktard?

LOL, I would just buy you from your security agency and have them deliver you. If the price is right that should be no problem. I wouldn't want to handle any of the slaves myself, a dirty business that.

Now fuck off!

yeah, that's what people who are good at debate and have a strong position usually end with.

wow, I have exceeded the maximum length for a post! This is going to have to be posted separately.