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RE: Anarchy, Anarchists + Personal Paths To Freedom 🏴

in #anarchy7 years ago

I think there is some marge in how people define anarchism, but that it is foremost an ideology, so I agree with that standpoint. However, saying; "a person who rebels against any authority, established order, or ruling power" is to be an anarchist, I disagree. Anarachy is being against the fundamentals of hierachy itself, so rebelling towards a particilar authorithy doesn't necessarily apply you're an anarchist.

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I think this depends on your flavor of anarchy. Yes, some flavors are against all hierarchy. My flavor (Voluntaryism), however, is ok with hierarchy that is voluntary in nature. So if i voluntarily choose to work for someone and voluntarily agree to do the tasks they ask me to do, then from my perspective, there is no coercion in the relationship, so that particular hietarchy is ok.

Nice! Another great distinction, @scottermonkey. Thanks. :-) As you said, there are many flavors of anarchy, and I'd never find delight or meaning in splitting hairs among them, lol.

The main purpose of my post is just to object to the idea that anarchists (of any kind), do not exist unless/until anarchy is the established way.

^^ That's what I understood @lasseehlers' point to be, and that's what I wanted to challenge.

But that would not be anarchy, it might be a good idea but it holds not one of the precepts of what anarchy is, anarchy is the enemy of capitalism and any other form of organized groups, if you want to talk about voluntaryism OK, but don't call it anarchy, because you are not making much sense, anarchy is implicitly the absence of hierarchies, and that is impossible to find in a human society.

@gduran: I'm saying anarchists + voluntaryists have the existential right to refer to themselves as anarchists + voluntaryists, WHILE dismantling hierarchies... AS they influence events toward a more free way.

We don't have to wait 2 generations, or deny what we are, until all states have been overthrown, to make the truthful statement that: "I'm an anarchist."

The veracity comes from the anarchist's reclaimed mind... not the blessing or toppling of the thing renounced! The truth is user-generated, and that's what liberates.

In hindsight, it's a small thing to contest. But good thought and convo has been stirred, so nothing's wasted.

Exactly, you can think it, but there is no action behind it, ergo nothing happens.

Thanks, @droucil. That's a great clarification. I hope more are made, because I was very general throughout.

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