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RE: IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING POLITICAL, YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING!!!!

in #anarchy6 years ago

I get what you're saying but all of that stuff isn't necessarily making the state irrelevant. Crypto currencies aren't immune to the tentacles of the state. We're still being taxed... If we are to abolish or at the very least return the state back to a limited entity with specific functions that cannot be expanded then at some point we're going to have to engage it politically. The question is how do we go about doing that in a way that is going to actually affect change? I have my ideas but that is something that I rarely, if at all, ever hear talked about.

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No. “We” are not going to have to do anything. You can do what you want. I’ll do what I want.

I didn’t say that cryptocurrencies would end the state, to be fair. You are correct about the infiltration and the disgusting “taxation” which is antithetical to the whole concept of financial dignity and privacy for which many of these currencies were created in the first place. The state is actually attempting to co-opt many cryptocurrencies.

Nor do I think that things like farmer’s markets alone will “end the state.” However, those pushing the political action end of things (using an immoral system to establish a moral one) often talk about getting a “majority” to vote for a leader who will change things. If the majority of individuals simply opted out of politics, became more self-sufficient, and did not comply, the state could not continue to function. These political crusaders will then say, “even with a majority, the state will still target you!”

I wonder why they don’t think this applies to majority political action as well.

Either way, the point is that the paradigm is shifting. All this talk of what “we” have to do is the problem. Individuals are already doing it. If someone wants to politic, go ahead. Just don’t say that the individuals choosing not to are “doing nothing.”

It’s funny how even in self-proclaimed individualists, the collectivist mindset remains. As if there could only be one way by which to address the problem and deal with it.

When I use “we” I’m not specifically including you. So, I’m not sure how your inflammatory and arrogant opinion on “self-proclaimed individualists” having collectivist mindsets is relevant to my comment.

To be fair, I didn’t say that you said crypto currencies would end the state. You said that crypto currency along with a few other things is making the state irrelevant and I correctly pointed out that this isn’t necessarily the case.

“If the majority of individuals simply opted out of politics, became more self-sufficient, and did not comply, the state could not continue to function.” What do you mean by simply opt out of politics and not comply?

So, I’m not sure how your inflammatory and arrogant opinion on “self-proclaimed individualists” having collectivist mindsets is relevant to my comment.

I wasn’t really trying to have a go at you personally with this. Was thinking of the individuals I’m talking about in the video mainly.

To be fair, I didn’t say that you said crypto currencies would end the state. You said that crypto currency along with a few other things is making the state irrelevant and I correctly pointed out that this isn’t necessarily the case.

This is true. Sorry about the misunderstanding here.

What do you mean by simply opt out of politics and not comply?

I mean stop lending credence to the force-based political system by participating/pouring money, time, and resources into it, become more self-sufficient, and stop complying with the demands of the state as much as possible, and en masse.

"What do you mean by simply opt out of politics and not comply?

I mean stop lending credence to the force-based political system by participating/pouring money, time, and resources into it, become more self-sufficient, and stop complying with the demands of the state as much as possible, and en masse."

Right. Simply ignoring those who are proponents of the state while being an example of morality and using more efficient means will show others who are open enough the path of voluntaryism. Living your life and teaching those who want to learn is the most effective means, rather than arguing with the insane ramblings of collectivists.

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