RE: [STATISM] Is it Morally Wrong to Evade Taxes?
I think it is morally wrong not to pay taxes in a capitalist society. Because then you are technically stealing from other members of your society.
The reason being is that if you are earning excessive amounts of capital like more than enough to support your familyx10, due to the laws of economics this usually means that someone else is at a loss for your gain. Extortionate prices and big profits are usually due to business being able to exploit demand. Like medicines for example; the epipen costs 0.30c to produce but is being sold at $200 due to demand, a diabetic on welfare will be $200 short instead of 0,30c short.
This is even more compounded by people who do not pay tax and make use of public services, which then means that they are directly stealing from their neighbors.
With reference to your argument, which seemed to me to be a case of 'but if these guys are doing it, why can't i?'; I completely agree big corporations and the wealthy can afford to 'legally' not morally hide their money offshore and not pay any tax, which is stealing from all the people in that country. They hire really expensive accountants to exploit legal loopholes to store their money offshore. These legal loopholes exist because the government turn a blind eye to them.
But it would be very easy for a government to hire some lawyers and draft a law that would close off the majority of the loopholes within a few years.
But in the words of the old saying; 'two wrongs don't make a right'
We don't live in a capitalist society and there has never been a capitalist society.
There will be no taxes in a capitalist society.
Taxes are involuntary and enforced with violence.
No one benefits from taxed. Poor people are not helped by taxes and the welfare state.
What you wrote is leftist-infested and disconnected from any form of livable real-world situation and I assume you've never run a business, been involved in business processes, strived to become and entrepreneur and instead sit on your ass while reading leftist-propaganda bullshit that does nothing to ruin the world.
Taxes are not a contract and are therefore theft. Learn the fucking difference or stop wasting everyone else's time with this leftist crap, please.
That's not very constructive, @gliten. @raph isn't just thinking about this stuff; he's also made himself vulnerable by sharing his thoughts in a public forum. Which is more than can be said for the majority of people who hold these views.
He's wrong, but weren't we all at one point?
Thankyou for your contribution @raph, there are a lot of holes in your argument, including a lot of cliched ones which people like @gliten and I get a little tired of hearing, hence the occasional outburst.
Hang around, read some stuff and keep thinking :)
We don't live in a capitalist society?
Wow, I think you need to tell that to everyone that bought into the 'Capitalism won the cold war' after the fall of the Berlin wall in the 80's and and Russia adopting capitalism in the 90's.
How is communism ruling again? Apart from in China, and NK.......
Taxes are not a contract? So by choosing to live in a society you are not agreeing to their terms and conditions? Guess who paid for the sidewalk, roads and amenities? The tax payer, so yeah you are stealing from them if you enjoy the fruits of living in a society they paid for.
Where are your constructive comments I can't find them? If taxes are theft, go live in a tax free country like Dubai or the UAE. These countries invest oil revenue into infrastructure.
Leftist crap? Name calling? Sounds like a guy who has to resort to playground tactics when they've been discredited and have no credible comeback.
There are people in society who depend on welfare, and also make a contribution to society, so your kinda ignorant if you belive there aren't. While I don't disagree with you entirely, I do belive that the government are responsible and should be held accountable for those that actually steal from tax payers.
For example the same people that stole tax payer money to bail out the banks, should be held accountable, the same people that abuse fear and war, and released public funding to go to the pockets private contractors extortionate figures, as well as the military industrial complex, the same people that don't crack down on extremely high earners; who have no need for ridiculous amounts of wealth, the same people that allow 1% of the population to hold 40% of the wealth.
These are the real thieves and their accomplices.
So if taxes are theft, is living in a country while not paying taxes 'squatting'? Are you a squatter?
There are no countries. They exist only in the minds of statists. There's earth and there's ocean. The lines between 'countries' only exist on maps.
A rebuttal of basically, " let the government steal from you, or leave" is counterproductive. You're basically saying he has no right to decide where his money is spent. That's called slavery.