Facebook executive denies that the network spies on its users microphones

in #ads4 years ago

Rob Goldman who is the vice-president of ads at Facebook recently replied to a tweet by PJ Vogt who presents a podcast called "Reply All" with

"I run ads product at Facebook. We don't - and have never - used your microphone for ads. Just not true," Mr Goldman wrote.

and he stated that the same thing goes for Instagram which is now also owned by the giant Facebook.

Read more about this in an article at bbc.com.


A lot of people have been feeling though as if they've been targeted by ads lately which they have never seen before yet remember talking about something similar with others around them.

Youtube user Neville Black had even uploaded a video regarding this in June of last year.


Is it just humans trying to find patterns in randomness again or do you think there might be something they are hiding from us?
What do you think about this? Have you noticed anything similar happen to your Facebook ads?

(I personally have deleted Facebook many years ago.)


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It's possible that they're using it but I was talking about this very thing the other day. I almost never used to see ads on my feed, but now I'm starting to see the ones that my wife gets on hers.

My wife will interact with ads where I'll ignore them. This leads me to think that they're grouping users based on relationship/how much time you spend together (they're definitely using location) and displaying ads that way.

I guess it's not too big a stretch to think that they're able to see the cookies that allow Adwords & Amazon to show you reccomendations - only this way you see what your closest friends are looking for too.

I have a relatively bare account, and more privacy settings turned on. And I still seemingly get the same ads as some friends.

So what now? If don't allow sharing of your private info. Ten apparently they just showed with the same as your friends are getting? That's messed up.

Yeah looks like it might be their strategy to mop up the rest of us stragglers. I haven't looked at the ad settings lately, perhaps they've modified the parameters to allow 'friends of'

Behind every successful Person, there is a deactivated Facebook account.

This is so interesting!!
A couple of weeks ago I told my daughter to get me a windex... and next thing I knew I saw a windex ad on my FB page when I logged in later in the day!
I tried to figure out how this add got there... I wasn't logged in when she brought it to me and the camera couldn't caught it ......now, this explains what's happened!
Thanks for sharing!!

I am skeptical. But the dude could be telling the truth, it could be one of the many apps or permissions that you give access to your information to when you play a Facebook game or participate in a survey or questionaire your friend sends you through Facebook etc etc.

So not Facebook proper, but one of their ad whores being given access.

In the end... Same difference.

Yeah, he could be telling the truth without telling the full truth...

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Facebook has become one of the biggest spy tools for the elite and I think it was planed from the beginning the best is to cancel FB and switch to Steemit. I didn't know that they are doing this via the microphones but it makes sens to me. What I know is that they spy on us with Data Deals like FB and Amazon did.

In order to get the profile data of as many Facebook users as possible, Amazon has silently and secretly closed a gigantic data deal with Facebook.

The button "Connect with Facebook" has appeared on Amazon for some time. If you click on it, your Facebook account opens, where an app starts automatically. With a click on it, he loads the profile data of all his friends on the servers of Amazon.

Which products the customer likes, is for Amazon long clear. But now they also knows about the preferences of many Facebook members - they do not know about it and it does not matter if they have ever bought at Amazon. After all, only one Facebook member needs to use the Connect feature and Amazon already has the profile data of his friends. This includes:

Name, date of birth, place of residence, photos
Profile info about movies, books, TV shows
The interests, activities, quotes specified by the Facebook users
All the blog posts and Facebook activities where users have shown interest via "likes" button.

This gives Amazon the opportunity to deliver personalized product recommendations to Facebook friends.

I know they do, if you look at the permissions for the app anyways you are giving permissions for Facebook to access your mic, your address book and your camera. Why do they need access to those things?
I have also noticed items I have not searched for online but have talked about have popped up in my advertisements. My new phone had Facebook pre-loaded. I was telling someone about this a couple of months ago and showed them. I went ahead and activated the app and we talked about Bunk Beds, something I don't need and with-in 30 minutes I was getting ads for Bunk Beds. I disabled the app, sadly I can not delete it off the phone, which irritates me, I shouldn't be forced to have an app on my phone, if I don't want it, and I don't want Facebook.

you are giving permissions for Facebook to access your mic, your address book and your camera. Why do they need access to those things?

For Facetime I guess.

They have been asking for that before facetime came out.

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they WERE monitoring people through mics to run targeted ads at them. I'd like to believe they aren't, but I also wouldn't doubt human beings capacity to do fucked up things. I haven't experienced this personally, but I also run adblock so I don't see ads on my facebook whenever I do get on there :D

Well, I am of the opinion they monitor more than that. They likely have our passwords and stuff to other websites as well. I do not doubt that if I had the app installed on my pc that I would lose my ETH or BTC funds.

I only use FB for messaging people and even that is becoming annoying to use.

Also, Samsung TVs listen to you + many other things do like Siri/Cortona on your phone or xbox or playstation.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/09/technology/security/samsung-smart-tv-privacy/index.html

From article " Many Samsung "SmartTVs" come equipped with voice recognition, which allows you to bark commands at your TV. Since the television is always listening for your voice, Samsung has warned its SmartTV customers that every word is being captured and sent over the Internet.

"Please be aware that if your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party through your use of Voice Recognition," Samsung posted in its SmartTV privacy policy. "

I have noticed this too- that I'm talking about something, or googling something, and suddenly I start getting ads for that thing on Facebook. It's entirely possible that it's just a coincidence- but I have a piece of tape over my camera. Whether its happening or not, it doesn't hurt to take precautions either.

Facebook has long been verified of listening to us, not our comment on the platform but what tv we watch, what we talked. I has disabled all microphone access by FB app and Messenger app for about 2 yrs.

Maybe it is humans finding patterns in randomness, but then it's freaking weird when I've gotten pop up ads for things I have no interest in but might have been talking about for some reason a few hours before. Cue twilight zone music :/

I know that they know practically everything and that we give access to stuff without realizing it, but about the ads I had no idea... My digital footprint though it's so huge right now, plus my identity as a photographer kind of dictates that I should keep this way, that I don't think there's much I can do. But creepy level 1 million...

He's full of shit. They definitely DO monitor audio, most definitely, 100% for sure. They've been doing it for quite a long time now.

Phones HAVE to be monitoring audio. I do get targeted ads that I've never typed about or anything yet have spoken of with my voice. It has happened way too many times for it to be a coincidence.

I've heard from many people who still use facebook that they've also encountered this. Most of the time they notice it if its a new ad which is really "random" like the cat food one in the example above.

It's way too rampant for it to not be true . . .

Makes me want to smash my phone and get an old school Nokia.

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I have a hard time with this. I was literally just talking with someone about this (wait maybe acidyo is monitoring my phone) I see how we can come to that conclusion but I also understand targeted algorithms and the huge amount of information we put out there for them to dig through, as well as our personal friends info... It's a coin toss for me but I don't WANT to believe that they are monitoring us.

I said eggnog and right after it had a advertisement for an egg amulet now you tell me that is not at-least a little freaky.

This is how facebook to trt predicting your online preferences and needs in my opinion which I think is bad.

The rapid advancement of technology is starting to get scary and creepy.

very interesting but not surprised. They hide most things...

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Well, if the technology exists for them to do so (and it does); and there's a financial incentive for them to do so (and there is); and there's implied permission that allows them to do so (and there is); then common sense says they are listening, period.

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First time seeing your gif about other social media @acidyo, can't stop laughing.

Wonderful post,very good job,thanks for great video sharing
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I personally have deleted Facebook many years ago.

Yep me too. And boy was it hard to get rid of them! Next up is Quora.

Btw is there a Quora built on Steem?

Personally cannot accept FB microphone options to use advertising.
I have no interest, that I don't think there's much I can do. need to ad lot of confident.

I have a hard time with this. I was literally just talking with someone about this (wait maybe acidyo is monitoring my phone) I see how we can come to that conclusion but I also understand targeted algorithms and the huge amount of information we put out there for them to dig through, as well as our personal friends info... It's a coin toss for me but I don't WANT to believe that they are monitoring us.

Well, at this point anything can be possible now, since technology is rapidly growing in society. It is also very scary at the same time @acidyo.

Ive long thought this could be happening but frankly even if its not they still steal our privacy, or likes and posts and shares to sell us stuff.

Cant wait till someone makes the next Facebook through Ethereum, decentralized apps will be the future. Just wait.

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I used FB account. But its toooooo boring,,,,wasting our time soooo.everything happening to good

@acidyo, very informative issue you shared there with us about ads on Facebook, yes I agree with your words because I often realise that there a story behind these adds so we should b beware of this. Whenever I joined steemit after this I cut off from Facebook. Thanks dear for sharing a important issue with us.,

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The last time i ran a facebook ads for my blog, i promised never to try it again.

The amount of data Facebook is collecting on users is almost concerning but if you know what youre doing, you can use it yourself to become a monster at marketing!

I like to point out to friends how much worse than George Orwell's imagination because we carry the Big Brother Tv in our pocket everywhere we go.

Well this is interesting. Haven't known something like this is circulating in Facebook, nice to know though. Thank you for sharing, I would be checking my account there.

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ok sorry.. i will not do this again

Sometimes we loose touch of our identity without knowing , who knows what else is out there in the internet world that we already let out. It's funny how once we search something we see it later as adds in Facebook and anywhere else

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Interestingly enough he didn't deny the capability to do so though. In fact, Facebook has even applied for a patent to analyse emotions using the camera while not actively using the device's camera (see 2nd patent mentioned in article).

There is a reason why Zuck himself has taped his camera and mic on his laptop.

I used FB account before long time. But its boring and not interesting all of activities, long time wasting. Specially cannot accept their advertising methods. its expires maybe. Sameone happen good. Also lot bad.

Great work! Facebook

I honestly think it's, especially
some, humans not understanding how predictable they are.

ive heard enough stories about people with fb apps getting weird adds to make me never download any fb app.

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I had this happen with peanut butter one time! I was talking about peanut butter and then on instagram what do ya know... a commercial for Jif peanut butter. I did not search or type in peanut butter in any search bar.. Just talked about it. I guess it is possible for that to randomly be displayed, but the timing was peculiar to say the least.

I refuse to put facebook on my phone. I use it sparingly on my laptop, which does not have a mic unless I plug one in.

woww.. one of my friends actually mentioned a similar situation to me and we thought that was so weird. To see that others have noticed and that this would even be done is so crazy!

Just delete your Facebook account..........

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Well sir, this is a great informative post. Facebook became more powerful after adding whats app and instagram with itself. I think facebook is monitoring our informations randomly, as well as personal details.
I agree with your post completely and personally i have deleted facebook too few months ago when i understand the true fact.
Thanks sir, for sharing this kind of important information in such a easy way.

Well sir, this is a great informative post. Facebook became more powerful after adding whats app and instagram with itself. I think facebook is monitoring our informations randomly, as well as personal details.
I agree with your post completely and personally i have deleted facebook too few months ago when i understand the true fact.
Thanks sir, for sharing this kind of important information in such a easy way.

Several times in the past few weeks some out-of-the-blue topic came up in conversation and wham instant advertising on gf’s PC. I need to tape up that microphone and camera! I dumped Facebook several years ago, but it’s still a bad actor in your house as long as it is installed on some nearby gadget.

If hackers can access your microphone and web cam, there is no reason why Facebook could not do this as well, especially on phones and tablets on which you have downloaded the Facebook app.

What concerns me more, though, is the fact that Facebook saves everything about you. And they don't just store all of those things that you clicked "like" for. It even stores deleted portions of comments you're editing and haven't sent yet. And private companies are reportedly buying all of this data from Facebook and constructing psychological models of ... everyone. They use machine learning to build these models, which can then answer questions like, 'who is most likely to buy product X?" or "who is most likely to get off the political fence and vote for candidate X if given news story Y (even if Y contains false information, or propaganda)?"

Now combine that with third party ad cookies. You visit a page that downloads ads from an ad network, which stores a cookie on your machine. Then you visit another site, and that same ad network is serving up ads, storing cookies, and reading their past cookies. That's how they end up knowing everything that you do online. And it's not just Google AdSense ... other companies are getting in on this too.

By the way, Google has even figured out a way to use your cell phone number to keep track of all of this information and connect the dots on all of the machines that you use. So those sneakers you were looking at on your phone? Well, an ad for them is now haunting you while you browse the web on your desktop.

For Facebook, Google, and Twitter, you are not the user. You are the product.

Of course we believe them..would they ever lie?

I have already disable microphone on Facebook long years ago. ( 8 years ago). Face book platform lightening and understood our feelings what requirement we needed. but its probably. we have tried lot.

nice interesting post,

I didit to over 2 years a go, (facebook closure) and i'm glad for that!

Slick.. I prefer twitter ads.

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A very good read and then strucked my mind it maybe possible for other sites to do this

Why not we use adblock ,to get rid on the ads.
personally i am not using adblocker and even facebook too necause i don't like facebook anymore . i use facebook very less in a week because there are lots of more better option in social media and steemit is great example of it.
when i first used steemit i am almost forget about facebook from that day beacause steemit is far better than other social media sites or app in my opinion

Who will admit something like that? :D

very unfortunate, thank you post

In my Facebook there is always love love love ads. @acidyo

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