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  • little nutrients:
    this is obviously true. However, people don't drink coffee to get nutrients, so who cares?
  • adrenal fatigue:
    Could you provide a reliable source of information (scientific, not youtube or some lifestyle blog) here? I'm more than happy to learn new stuff.

Thanks for reading and commenting, btw!

  • Coffee is highly addictive drug and most people don't realize why they drink... it's a habit that has been passed down through our family, friends, co-workers, large coperations and media, (there are many other healthier alternatives to coffee.) If you drink it for taste alone then up to you of course but most people are addicted and convince themselves like the taste as they get used to coffee over time.

  • im not sure if lifestyle blogs are scientific but heres some source i found....
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2257922/
    heres some lifestyle ones:
    https://adrenalfatiguesolution.com/caffeine-adrenal-glands/
    https://www.pranin.com/blog/your-caffeine-crisis-is-robbing-your-adrenals/
    theres more just google it.
    i dont know how much real scientific studies is done on coffee because there are billion dollar companies who dont want us to know why it could be shit for us...

  • finally everyone is a little bit different so maybe one person can go through life fine drinking coffee.
    But if you NEED coffee everyday you are most likely experiencing adrenal fatigue. Our bodies are naturally designed to wake us up every morning so without doubt ppl who use coffee in the morning especially have stressed their adrenals. If you experience tiredness after eating and take a coffee maybe its because the food we are eating is causing the tiredness i.e gluten or high g.i foods or if you experience general tiredness from working etc there are better ways like taking a brisk walk, or stretches, chi gong or yoga to wake up the body.

  • I worked in a restaurant for 4 years with a coffee machine, I could drink as much free coffee as i liked, i worked long hours and late, i would NEED coffee to keep going. Since being caffeine free for 5 years, i have felt a lot better. I dont crash and i can wake up in the morning and be fully alert without needing stimulants of any kind.

The study you cite says nothing about "adrenal fatigue". What they found out is that the cortisol production is generally lower in people with a higher caffeine blood level, which means that there is a certain tolerance towards caffeine that builds up after some time of consumption. However, they also state that overnight abstinence is probably enough to increase cortisol production to normal.
Not more, not less.

In general, from what I saw, science is not backing the "coffee is unhealthy" story at all. You should also consider that not only coffee, but also tea or cocoa contains quite high amounts of caffeine, so focusing on coffee while the potential problem is called caffeine is not entirely correct.

But as said: Imo, coffee is not unhealthy.

And what about the lifestyle ARTICLES? ITS LIKE YOU ONLY READ THE SCIENTIFIC STUDY BUT IGNORED THE PERSONAL STORY LIKE SCIENCE HAS IT ALL FIGURED OUT. I DON'T DRINK ANY CAFFEINE INCLUDING CACAO OR TEA. I RECENTLY MADE A CACAO VIDEO BUT IN IT I EXPLAIN THAT I'M MAKING THE CHOCOLATES TO SELL. I DON'T EAT CACAO EITHER. I ALSO HAVE A DISCLAIMER THAT PPL WHO DO IT EAT IT SHOULD IT RESPECTFALLY. BEING STÜCK IN A CAFFEINE CYCLE CAUSES ADRENAL FATIGUE BUT LIKE ANY OTHER ADDICT THEY SUFFER WITH DENIAL SO WASTE OF TIME COMMUNICATING WITH U

"There is no scientific evidence supporting the concept of adrenal fatigue and it is not recognized as a diagnosis by any scientific or medical community."

And "personal stories" can never substitute scientific evidence.

nuff said, thanks for the discussion anyway.

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