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RE: WHY THE BEEF?? Just do what HAEJlN does!
All good things to point out! Following you. The system is flawed. I think the self upvote at 100% should be removed. One should be able to self vote at least once in a certain timeframe and not at 100%. The more SP you have the less % you should be able to self vote. However, if you have two funded account the votes could be passed back and forth between the two. Who is to police this if we can’t police ourselves?
Yes, you are right...
we are to police ourselves. That is the only answer.
And you answered your own question: if the rules were changed to not allow a self upvote, the SCAMMERS would just open and fund a second account. Then they would use two accounts to vote back and forth. THis is actually a problem that has been done many times already. It is probably still being done. People do it to hide their greed.
But if we changed the rules, then it would be done much much worse.
The answer is us. The answer is you and me and the dolphins and whales and 1000 big minnows out there to stand up and say "STOP". And the way to say stop is with the FLAG function.
Thx
@qwasert you make excellent point stating that self upvote should be removed. I personally never upvote my posts or comments and I think that self upvoting is most stupid think here on Steemit. It's like to fuck yourself and enjoy in the process. Again! It is stupid, weird, silly meaningless!!! Just greedy pigs upvote themselves to grab as much as possible from the reward pool. We all know them Steemit don't hide anything. I boost my earnings to use @minnowbooster bot lately but I stopped using it, because it's silly too.
So to domesticate this greedy herd I propose three changes in steem voting protocol:
This measures will stimulate users to upvote other users for contributing good stuff and get an upvote by doing the same. Power down process will help distributing SP and sprout fair distribution of reward pool and SP upper limit will have same effect beside preventing abuses from really dominant whales.
As has already been said.... "self voting" will not go away. IF we cancel "self upvoting" then cheats will just open a second account and upvote themselves back and forth. Cheaters can manipulate and work around almost every rule and system. ANd if money is involved, they will.
Secondly, your idea for Powering down will not work. The Steem that is powered up is the person's own steem. Maybe they bought it, maybe they worked hard for it. If they decide to leave Steem/Steemit and cash out then they are allowed to do so. I don't think anyone would accept this suggestion.
Thanks for joining the conversation!
You are right about self upvoting. Maybe I don't elaborate my thoughts enough. I plan I will write about that in a new post. (will put a link in this comments here).
And by powering down through delegation I don't mean that SP delegated remind on delegated accounts. It just sit there for power down period and then is transferred back to the account from where was delegated.
With this delegates donate something to the community also. On the end this platform make possible earning SP, they chose to withdraw and use it in other ways they want.
I wrote about this subject also in this comment @.
Canceling the self-upvote doesn't solve anything and is easily circumvented by creating another account(s) and use it to upvote. In fact, many users do that already with bots and multiple accounts. Of course, this approach can be applied by smart users who know how the Steem blockchain works. Minnows would be clueless about it and it wouldn't be helpful to them if they couldn't give themselves a little self-upvote boost.
I get your point, but anyway Steemit is social platform and upvoting others (especially real people) as social activity is desired here. I think that is better to upvote each other and in the process benefit also from some good content.
I wrote about this subject also in this comment @.