Where to start with this, so much I see wrong. You seem to generalize a lot. I have no idea if "The drama behind it is mostly for religious reasons" is true or not, but I do know people can be religious and take an ethical stand simply because they see unnecessary suffering and death as immoral. Those with empathy will, and that's not because Odin told them it's wrong.
I think few would argue that abortion is necessary to save the life of the mother, that is a tough ethical question if you're in that situation. But the answer seems easy. Abortion just because you feel the life inside you is a parasite and you have to take care of the child? Is that unnecessary death? Yeah, that is an easy question, yes, it's unnecessary and unethical/immoral - and no Odin or Zeus involved.
"Nobody gives you the right to decide for the life of others." How does this not apply to the life of an unborn child?
If rellgious people saw death as immortal then they wouldn't join war. Morality is subjective. What you consider moral might be immoral for someone else.
Odin can dictate murder. We see it all the time from religions that oppose abortion but they are ok if the murder occurs in war. An unborn parasite can kill the mother. anytime.
Numbers are irrelevant. You cannot dictate what someone else can do with their life no matter how big your collective is.
According to you. If you ever have a baby do as such. You have no right to dictate to others how they should treat their body.
You call the unborn offspring a child. As you can see there are major issues when it comes to understanding what an embryo is and the dangers a birth can bring. You cannot impose your own perception or ethics to others.
Religion is irrelevant to our discussion, this is about morality/ethics. While subjective, what about you? Does your moral code hold that unnecessary suffering and death is wrong?
An unborn fetus/child can kill the mother at any time? You have the data to support that? I can die at any time depending on the circumstances, but that doesn't mean my life is can end at any given moment. There can be complications, my wife could have died with each pregnancy, but I think you need more than this generalization.
I didn't try to dictate what someone else can do, I was making a moral/ethical point. While I typically will not dictate what someone else does with their body, that would have to involve my body/property, I can make a moral judgment about their actions.
I'm not dictating what others should do, it's just a moral judgment. My moral/ethical code is basically "Do no harm", that unnecessary suffering and death is wrong. If the killing of the fetus is unnecessary, then it's wrong. Your moral code may hold that unnecessary suffering and death is good, I don't know, you have not added your personal morals or ethics to the discussion explicitly. Though I do get that you are ok with a fetus being killed despite any present danger to the mother. Do you believe unnecessary suffering and death is wrong? And please spare me any religious rhetoric if you choose to answer.
Fine, I'll take the offending word out for you, maybe you'll answer. "Nobody gives you the right to decide for the life of others." How/why does this not apply to the life of a fetus?
It tells me that a mother can suffer at any time for any reason during pregnancy
Yeah I have 250.000 years of human births. Biologically a fetus acts like a parasite. it can kill the mother at any trimester. biology 101.
If you admit that there is a chance, even 1% there is nothing more to the argument. In this case over generalisation applies. Even 1% is still danger to the host.
You cannot know the needs of the mother. What is necessary for you might not be for someone else.
Suffering has hand in hand with pregnancy. A pregnant woman will suffer from day one if she doesn't want the baby both psychologically and physically.
The fetus has no rights since it bases its life to the host which it can kill at any time. Even if by some biological magical reason the chance was 0% (which is never) then again the mother could be able to abort at any time if she believed that it endangers her livelihood in any way.
You can't answer a straight question about your moral code? Your so-called "data" about 250k years of births is not data regarding the fetus being able to kill the mother at any time, and you insult me? I'm done, but I did want to comment on your post about the cells under your nail being no different than a fetus, but could not post there because the comment was "too deep" and the site would not allow it.
You really come off as a jerk, my comment had nothing to do with morality. Uneducated? Can you post a comment without an insult? Whatever you think of my education, you still made a false analogy as the clone has exactly the same DNA. You think the cells under your nails are no different than the cells of a fetus and I'm uneducated. Whatever, enjoy your false analogies and generalizations while putting others down.
irrelevant. you can still make a human. that was the point.
yes you are.
people with imaginary friends that tell them how to live their lives and then they try themselves to impose those beliefs to others are the pain in the ass. Don't talk about false analogies when your holy books and god is based on them.
I give specific anwers to your enquiries. You just don't have the educational calliber to get them