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RE: Abortion and the Libertarian Conscience

in #abortion6 years ago

Way I see it is that the complexity comes down to the minarchy v. anarchy issue. If there is not to be any government, then abortion should not be me made illegal--but even in anarchy if there are to be underlying rules enforced so as to have a sufficient culture of the Non Aggression principle, perhaps to prevent societies of pedophilia or slavery or cannabalism--then it comes down to whether abortion is murder. If it is, then even under anarchy then there would be overarching rules that might include some level of punishment/specific deterrence against abortion.

If the system is to be minarchy then it just boils down to whether abortion is murder or not.

Ultimately, I do not think prohibition really works effectively. I think it is better to respect the individual's autonomy and let them make the decisions over their lives--or at least not put them in cages or other punitive acts--perhaps beyond ostracism so people can voluntarily associate with who they want.

I hope technology can help change this issue, as soon as their are sufficient artificial wombs, I suspect the issue may be transformed--especially if abortions cost money and pro lifers can provide free fetus transfer so the profit maximizer would let pro lifers could privately subsidize preventing fetus termination.

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"Sufficient wombs"? You don't think a parentless child is a problem? How many of these orphans have YOU adopted already, to prove that you're making yourself part of the change you wish to see? Or are you, by default, actually seeking government custody since, like you, so many won't be adopting either, despite their precious, precious lip service?

Yea, I mean presumably such actors would have to also pay to raise the children--absent state subsidy. I don't understand where I talk about government. I want all people to be as free as possible and choose lives they choose for themselves.

And if they have no means because it's precisely, among major reasons, why they sought this solution in the first place?

One of the worst things you can do to someone is leave them as a helpless child in the hands of uncaring parents who were forced into it in any way.

And you still didn't answer how many orphans you adopted to prove you're actually walking the solution talk...proving that you're being the change you wish to see. How many?

what change do I wish to see? What stances have I taken?

But we prohibit lots of things and don't argue not to prohibit them on that basis.... like rape or murder or theft. Basically the position is that prohibiting aggression is a proper prohibition.

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