"Don't the politicians of Europe have a moral obligation to step in and help with the "refugees"?"

in #busy6 years ago (edited)

No!

And you got to love that German libtard:

"Merkel was right to help all those millions of poor souls and we are so awesome and so better and so much more open minded than those nationalists in Poland and Hungary, but turns out they are too many of them and we can't actually help them so we need to force the rest of the E.U. countries to take them and clean the mess we created with our open board policy." (slightly paraphrased)

No, bitch! Merkel and her buddy Tsipras are to blame for this mess with all those "Syrian" "refugees", that in most cases are neither Syrian nor refugees.

Either send them back to where they came from or find a way to integrate them in your society. Good luck with the latter. Or to quote Mr. Dominik Tarczyński:

Take them all. Take them and pay them. Take em all to Germany.

No? Why? Are you racist or something?

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Its a somewhat sensitive topic. Fixing the mess in the "refugee" countries is an option but moatly never feasible because most problems are not just isolated, theyre often as a result of many years of mismanagement, so goodluck with fixing a 60 year old problem.
Another sad thing is that whether the "refugees" be real or not and whether they're Syrian or not, its obvious that there's a lot of sufdering in their countries to decide to subject themselves to this komd of life.
Shit, I might just dexide to migrate my ass to Greece one day, Nigeria is about to sell out to China and I'm not about that shit. Oh and its Belemo by the way

I agree. Fixing those countries is not an option, and in the past efforts of "fixing" countries has resulted in just making a bigger mess.

Yeah, there is pain in the world wherever you look. But you just can't force other people to be good (by your standards). If Germany and the majority of German people wants it, yeah they can have all the migrants, refugees, economic migrants, illegal migrants, legal migrants, each and every one of them.

But you can't force the Polish or Hungarian people to do the same because somewhere in the middle you noticed that you fucked up and it didn't work the way you expected it to work..

As for Greece it's super easy to come, at least illegaly XD We have plenty of Nigerians here! But don't expect it to be any better than your country, your chances of getting a real job here are zero to none. And we are heading full on to become Venezuela after 2022 so yeah... Maybe I should migrate to Nigeria around that year and claim to be a political refugee or something :D

Fucking hell but what about the Greek women?

Ohhh, it will be very easy to get some ;)

Honestly The best way to help the refugees is not by taking in them in droves, it is by fixing up the mess created politically and ecomically in their countries. Taking in migrants in droves is nothing but cultural suicide IMO

I am totally ok with helping out real refugees. The thing is that the majority of them are not refugees and they don't come from Syria. Tsipras and Merkel essentially declared an open board policy and after that, as expected, every one from every shitty country was trying to get in to cash out the free checks from Germany, Sweden etc.

Those dumbasses thought they could fix the demographic problem of E.U and get cheap labor. Two birds one stone. Sounds like a nice deal on paper. However, it took them a while to figure that the majority of these people hate us, shit on our culture and definitely have no plans on integrating. And now, instead of doing what has to be done ( e.g. put all those that are not real refugees into a plane and send them back where they came from) they want to "enrich" the other E.U. nations that resist this idiotic "every one is welcome" policy.

Edit: And the more it takes them to take the hard but right choices the more right E.U. turns. Hopefully, they will do what is needed to be done before it turns...too right..

Isn't that the same lady who interviewed Jordan Peterson and interrupted him with "So what you are trying to say [insert bs]" all the time?
That green party deputee is the true liar here. There are around 200.000 persons that the German police has search warrants for, noone knows where they are, most of them illegal migrants. Plus there are 200.000 "refugees" with their birth date on January 1st, i.e. people with unconfirmed identities. But yeah, Germany has now the perfect structures to take in another 2 million of "refugees".

There is one thing they never speak a word in TV about Poland. Poland is currently a shelter for around 2 millions of refugees and immigrants from Ukraine. That number raised from just 10k in three years! That puts Poland on a second place after UK by the number of immigrants taken lately. Yes, this means that Poland welcomed way more immigrants than Germany. Among them there are really poor individuals and whole families which faced war with Russia, their homes and workplaces destruction and catastrophic crisis. And yes, there is war on Ukraine, but it's a boring topic so you won't see much of it in TV. Why nobody mentions that Poland represented such a good act of will and all Ukrainians seeking for work or shelter in Poland are welcome? Why nobody mentions that Poland also donated big amount of money to rebuild Ukrainian economy? The answer is: because due to political correctness you better never say in TV that white people also can be poor and need help. Especially if they are not Muslims or LGBT.

Can I have a source for that number please ? I did some googling but couldn't find any exact numbers other than it's .... a lot XD

I completely agree with you, because I'M German and see any day how Merkels politics sucks!!!

Here, this clip show what's the sense of chancellor Refugees-Projekt, you just have to exchange Hitler with Merkel and Jews with Germany.

Damn, really enjoyed the video. Glad I watched it. Thanks for sharing!

εχω βρεθει σε τετοιες συζητησεις αρκετες φορες και ακρη δεν βγαζω...

Παντα καποιος αλλος ξεκιναει την κουβεντα (που συνηθως ειναι σχετικα ακυρος στην παρεα, τυπου φιλος-φιλη φιλου) κ φτανει στο σημειο να ρωταει κ εμενα π με βλεπει να μν μιλαω, (Τι πιστευεις εσυ για τους προσφυγες?)

  • Να κρατησουμε τους πραγματικους προσφυγες π μας αναλογουν, βαζοντας τους παραλληλα να κανουν κ καμια κοινωνικη εργασια για να βοηθανε κ την χωρα καπου κ παραλληλα να ζουν σε ανθρωπινες συθηκες αλλα να διωξουν ολους τους μεταναστες( κ τους παραθετω κ βιντεο να δουν που 9/10 ειναι πακιστανοι, απο μπαγκλαντες κ τα σχετικα)

εκει θα δεχτω την κλασικη απαντηση π ακρη δν βγαζεις

  • Ναι αλλα κ αυτοι καποιον λογω θα εχουν π φευγουν απο την χωρα τους, δεν νομιζω να ηθελαν να μπουν σε ενα καραβι με κινδυνο την ζωη τους για να ερθουν σε μια αλλη χωρα... Αρα και στην χωρα τους ειναι στα προθυρα ζωης η θανατου για να κανουν μια τετοια θυσια.

Αντε βγαλε ακρη μετα, για καποιους εχουν δικιο, για αλλους οχι καθως ερχονται καθαρα για εμποριο νακρωτικων κ γενικοτερα εκληματικες ενεργειες, αλλοι καθαρα για τα ευκολα λεφτα, βλεπε Sweden. Στην τελικη οσο κ σκληρο να ακουγεται απο την στιγμη η κατασταση εχει ετσι οπως ειναι κ δν μπορουμε να τους προσφερουμε κατι, ουτε να τους ελενξουμε, ουτε να τους εχουμε παροχες και παραλληλα οπως λενε κ αυτοι να ζουν σε αθλιες συνθηκες κ να τους "ωθουμε στην εγκληματικοτητα" δν βρισκω το νοημα να τους κραταμε εδω κ να τους αφηνουμε να ερχονται στην χωρα μας.

Μα δεν είναι το θέμα μόνο να μπορείς να τους προσφέρεις. Αν θες να μπεις στην Ευρώπη πρέπει να έχεις και κάποιες αξίες. Δε γίνεται π.χ. να θεωρείς οκ ο άντρας να σαπίσει τη γυναίκα στο ξύλο επειδή δε φόρεσε μπούρκα, η να θεωρει οκ να λιθοβολειται κάποιος επειδή είναι gay η επειδή δεν είναι μουσουλμάνος . Αν θες να μπεις στην Ευρώπη πρέπει να έρθεις ι) νόμιμα ιι) να ασπάζεσαι κάποιες common sense αξίες.. Αλλιώς άντε γειά και πίσω στο μπουρδέλο σου

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