Losing the trust of a community

in #steem6 years ago

I don't know about you but since I have joined Steem I have lost something; trust. It is not that I was an overly trusting person before, since for most of my professional career I have dealt with all kinds of human behaviours and a lot of it negative but, benefit of the doubt was still my underlying process. These days, there is more doubt than benefit though.

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The amount of things that I have seen go on here in the last year is likely the same volume most normal people experience in a lifetime yet, it is just another day at Steem really. Of course, it isn't Steem, it is the current set of human behaviours but Steem being what it is, it is easy to see what kinds of things go on. Some of the stuff that I have been privy to off-chain is pretty incredible too.

It is interesting though because blockchain technology is all about trust but many of the users of it I wouldn't trust as far as I can kick them, as the saying goes. I don't think that they are necessarily evil but with the ability to mask the connection to a real person, the inclusion of potential income and a high amount of complexity and subsequent loopholes; the tendency for people to do what they wouldn't normally do in real life is high.

Ther is so much conversation around the technology and code to incentivize or discourage certain behaviours but when it comes down to it, humans will be humans and even though the way we behave isn't set in stone, for most people, the default habits are what plays out as action. A better world is easy to imagine but unfortunately, it takes better people to make it a reality and better people means people willing to invest in themselves and live an examined life.

For most though, the energy to spend on examination and self-reflection seems either too much effort or a luxury. The problem for each position is the same though as each holds a scarcity mindset. People think that it is a cost of personal resources they could better invest into gaining in another area as they chase their desires or escape from the debt collectors. Under examination, solutions are likely to present themselves that will stop the need for running altogether. This is especially true if enough people are investing in themselves.

The more people that actually do this, the more will come to certain understandings that will likely reduce the amount they think they need to live and empower their ability to create more than they do currently. Scarcity isn't a problem in this world, distribution is and, those willing and able to create is a fast growing issue as most are becoming consumers of all things.

Consumers are destined to chase the latest and greatest as they will define themselves by what they possess. This leads inevitably to imbalance as competition on such material gains will continually ramp up until there are the haves and the have nots. The haves will look down and say work harder and you can have what I have too and the have nots will look up and say I want that. It is a continual process of FOMO as, there is always someone above with a little bit more.

you see it here as people try to maximize their gains by any means possible even if it comes at the cost of others. Just check Trending and you will see a system of competition and drive that will continually ramp up until the system eats itself. It is inevitable on the current tract. It is unsustainable and unless people work it out, it will end sooner rather than later.

It takes people though, not code. No amount of SMTs and Oracles will solve the problems, they will just stretch the time frame. At the end of the day, it is going to come down to a community made up of individuals and the choices they make.

Will they want a better world or, just a better life for themselves? I will give the benefit of the doubt and say that I am hopeful but, I am not very trusting when it comes to hope. Too many times it has failed me so I tend to rely on what is already done and the potential for what can be done next.

Taraz
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Will they want a better world or, just a better life for themselves? I will give the benefit of the doubt and say that I am hopeful but, I am not very trusting when it comes to hope. Too many times it has failed me so I tend to rely on what is already done and the potential for what can be done next.

We're completely on the same page with this feeling. I would quote your entire story, but that seemed unreasonable.

I've felt this way since probably sometime around November of last year. There was a clear change to the way everything was happening on Steemit, and it was absolutely not for the better.

There are still many people on Steemit who are doing the right thing and are working toward the original concept of Steemit.. Unfortunately, there are countless more people who are here for a get rich quick scheme, or leveraging bid-bots, or creating a new scam/spam tactic.

Like you state in your post, it's human nature for people to respond in this way. They're just accentuating their lack of morals in the "real world" when they come online to Steemit and go beyond where they would in "real life". It's a shame.. and definitely does create trust issues..

I would quote your entire story, but that seemed unreasonable.

This is steem, you could have reposted it as your own :'D

I've felt this way since probably sometime around November of last year.

This period accentuated it a lot, price tends to do that. After wards, the entitlement as prices dropped also.

There are still many people on Steemit who are doing the right thing and are working toward the original concept of Steemit..

There are and I am still comfortable being in this community based on the potential. There might come a time where all of this early drama is irrelevant.

There might come a time where all of this early drama is irrelevant.

I'm hoping that this is the case, but I'm hedging my bets a little by keeping a portion of my SP in liquid form. I'm not cashing out, but I'm holding ready to convert funds in case of a Steem-pocalypse... Also, it gives me the ability to quickly Power-Up in case of a turn for the better!

Ethics is the main principle to apply no matter how bad some people might behave. Thanks for your article.

If you are waiting on people to make this place better you are going to be waiting a long time lol

Many see this place as a quick cash grab because they “need” cash, they aren’t trying to build a better society etc. Most pay lip service to a “better world” because it makes them feel better or look better in others eyes but deep down they just want to get theirs!

People cant even act civil on a place like twitter where no money is involved let alone in a place where cash is available.

Being caught in the thralls of the scarcity mindset is not possible for the majority to break free from.

I see no hope but entropy.

If you are waiting on people to make this place better you are going to be waiting a long time lol

I don't wait too long, I move on with my own business soon enough :)

Most pay lip service to a “better world” because it makes them feel better or look better in others eyes but deep down they just want to get theirs!

It is the lip service that gets the votes too ;)

Being caught in the thralls of the scarcity mindset is not possible for the majority to break free from.

Tell me about it. This is my attempt and I fail as often as I succeed which essentially means, status quo, screwed.

I saw your comment on that post that was like 10 lines and 700 in paid upvotes. It's pretty disgusting what goes on here with greed

Actually that might not have been you. Edit it was totally you

This made me laugh more than it should have.

Scarcity isn't a problem in this world, distribution is and, those willing and able to create is a fast growing issue as most are becoming consumers of all things

They're just too few people who think sustainability. Many people are selfish, and just want to get on with the lastest or hottest, even at the cost of others and potentially themselves.

Most people don't care about the long term, that's why when another platform like steemit pops up you see em jumping around and scrapping what they can get, so long as they profit.

I use the term 'they' but in all truth I may not be all that innocent either

I use the term 'they' but in all truth I may not be all that innocent either

None of us are innocent but perhaps it is a spectrum of guilt like there is for autism.

This one made me want to think and laugh at the same moment:

"These days, there is more doubt than benefit though."

As for myself, I have found that my own words have to mean something to me first before they could mean something to others. These days the idea of speaking is just that - speaking. It lacks what was not a few years ago called 'weighing your words'.

People speak first and justify it later and say that we are learning in the process. This is all good but for the tiny detail that, the only time this 'learning' comes in play is when we are forced to confront our own words. I think the it is a pretty good assumption to make that a lot of spoken words do not carry the conviction of the speaker and the words are the only thing that we can judge in some circumstances.

It lacks what was not a few years ago called 'weighing your words'.

It is an interesting phrase I think especially as for most these days, words are feathers in the wind.

the only time this 'learning' comes in play is when we are forced to confront our own words.

absolutely. a mistake is not a mistake until it is known as a mistake. The action that led to it felt pretty right at the time.

Always so accurate in your words, @tarazkp. I believe that steemit does not escape the evils of any society. In this community there are examples of everyone out there. Good, bad, lazy, hard-working, all looking to make room for the weapons they have. We will also find those who see your triumph as their failure and from this speech some politicians are becoming politicians to become the president of the countries. How great it would be if we all worked together and helped make this community a success! I think we'd all win. A hug

all looking to make room for the weapons they have.

I like the way you put this :)

I'm not surprised you're losing trust in the community.

I'm not surprised you still had trust in the community.

I'm not surprised people are assuming they don't need to change, but the issues they are causing as a community is up to themselves - not to anyone else to solve.

I'm surprised you have a beard.
It looks nice.

Unless you've taken photo of a random dude with your kid.
If you have, I support you in your decision.

I figure, I can't afford to travel so I may as well. TBH, beard or not I get stopped at customs and randomly checked for explosives or drugs.

Jokes on them, I put it all in my wife's carry on.

A fun trick - when traveling abroad, just take a bunch of prescribed drugs you're allowed to have and shove them up your arse.

When you get randomly searched, you can just show your papers that you're allowed to have them.

Super fun for everybody!

I enjoy calling out bullshit so here goes - I trust you.

Seems like a small win in all this greed and promotion, but it IS a win.

At least I hope you think so.

Here is a photo to soften the blow. :)

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:) It is a nice pic too. Close to home?

Close is relative, but my run takes me there a couple times a month.

I love having access to rotting trails, lacking in maintenance and traffic. I wish I could share them more directly with you.

I'm not kidding about the trust, either. If you want to exploit it, I'm game :)

Close is relative

Being Australian, I try to explain this to Finns who think 400 kilometers is far away :)

I'm not kidding about the trust, either. If you want to exploit it, I'm game :)

We need a safe word.

I always wonder if it isn't just this inability to entertain thoughts of long term, sustainable gain and community, but more that they don't actually believe in the whole underlying basis of crypto?

"gotta get in get what I can get out it's not even money sell sell sell haHA look what I scammed them for!"

I like to think it's not the case, but so few people look at this as an opportunity for growth and at all of the potentials above and beyond ramen money that I'm beginning to suspect many just smash and grab here because they actually really don't think any form of crypto is sustainable. They swing from new thing to new thing fuck-you-got-mine-ing with the intrinsic unshakable belief that they need to take everything they can before it all blows away in the wind...

I'm not sure what the right approach here is, because that requires some fundamental education on a topic and a level beyond that of just this community.

I think the entire cryptosphere suffers from this. There is big talk of getting out of Fiat and the system but at the end of the day, they all just want a Lambo and feed their gains to corporate conglomerates.

They swing from new thing to new thing fuck-you-got-mine-ing with the intrinsic unshakable belief that they need to take everything they can before it all blows away in the wind...

And the winds come because they don't commit to standing firm as a windbreak.

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