Edit problems since communities are live!
I am having serious problems to properly edit my last post (as most of the time I created it as a complete HTML file), and I wonder if something changed with the editor since communities went live?
Let me show you what happens when I try to modify this article.
If I click at "Edit" the preview of the text in the editor suddenly looks completely different than the original version of the post! I made a screen shot of a part of the original version and then the preview of the editor when I try to edit it:
Original:
Ugly appearance in editor:
You can see that, beside other wrong formatting, the editor adds many blank lines!
Switching to HTML editor doesn't help!
Things also don't improve again when I switch to "Raw HTML": then the additonal lines are still in the text (many HTML tags are added compared to the original source code).
The only way to properly edit posts is to make a copy of the HTML source code first, and then insert this complete code into the editor to edit it. However, that's really inconvenient!
I wonder what has been changed with the editor? Am I really the only one facing this problem (as such a perfectionist I always try to correct every mistake after publishing a post, haha)?
I think this issue should really be taken serious and solved as soon as possible!
Looking at the source of https://steemd.com/deutsch/@jaki01/bundesregierung-fuer-pflicht-zur-passwortherausgabe, I see there are some formatting issues. E.g.:
I believe it may be an issue with
<p>tags nested in<li>. Was the HTML created outside of the editor? Could you try using plain<br />instead as needed?Hi again, @roadscape: I think it's really interesting that as soon as I copy the original source from your link: (https://steemd.com/deutsch/@jaki01/bundesregierung-fuer-pflicht-zur-passwortherausgabe) into the Steemit editor the preview is absolutely correct again! Then I can edit my post. However, when I click at "Edit" under my post, the editor shows a completely different source code!
Thanks for your reply!
Actually, I rather often use(d) the combination <p> & </p> within <li> & </li>, also in the Steemit editor, so I really wonder if that could be the reason for my problems with this post, but I will check out what happens, when I replace all <p> & </p> within lists by <br> or <br/> or <br />. :)
What I also wonder about, is, why the appearance of the post itself looks exactly as intended in my blog, but problems only arise when I try to edit it?
While contemplating about that, I think it would be nice to have the possibility to write 'test posts', not to trigger all the auto votes when just testing anything.
I will try to edit the old post and check how the editor preview looks like when changing the formatting according to your suggestion.
Have you looked into hackmd.io for test postings? !invest_vote
No ... at the moment I am happy if I find enough time to post at all ...
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Good you point it out and hope some of the developer sees it.
Though, have you tried blogging through any other interfaces..? Like I myself never really posted through steemit.com long time ago..
OK, lets try: hello, @roadscape, @quochuy! Anybody there? :)
Can you open an issue here:
https://github.com/steemit/condenser/issues
And also add an example of HTML file you used so we can replicate on a dev environment?
Hi, thanks for your reply! (That your are replying here confirms me in my decision to vote for you as witness!)
Isn't it most easy if you just right click on my article to let you show the (HTML) source of the site?
Then delete the unnecessary huge header added from steemit and you have the file you need.
This is the article I mean: "Bundesregierung für Pflicht zur Passwortherausgabe!".
If I try to edit it, it suddenly looks completely different (as descried in the post above).
By the way I am using Brave browser and Linux Mint but I am rather sure that's not the reason for my problem (if you read the comments under my article you will see that other users report similar issues).
I never added anything to github. If it is really necessary I will try to find out how it works, but in general I guess most users are not accustomed to open issues there, so there should be another easy method to open issues directly here on the platform (I thought "hive-144703" - "Communities Feedback" was that method). :)
Another problem is that I cannot post the HTML code here in this comment window as it would be directly shown as post instead of pure code.
I just made a screen shot of part of my HTML code (which is already slightly modified from the Steemit editor, and I cut the huge header):
You can copy that image and then increase its size in any image editing program.
If you still think it is necessary to open an issue at GitHub I will try to do that (but again, that's not what most users here will do when having a problem - I fear they will change the site where they post instead ...).
The reason why I asked for the file is there are chances the the website changes your file after you submitted it. I want the original file so that I know what has been modified.
Also, please note that the post editor was not built to accept pure HTML , it's mainly a Markdown editor that accepts a reduced set of HTML tags. Which is why you cannot expect an HTML file to be 100% rendered correctly.
As for the GitHub issues, it's a way for all developers involved to be able to find issues in a central place. Many users have spotted bugs or have feature requests and submit them in posts and comments. It's not practical for developers to go through the whole blockchain to find bugs. In few days or weeks, it won't be easy for me to find this post. This also allows other developers who haven't seen this post to be able to pick the issue up and fix it.
I can obviously create that issue myself but there are too many requests since Communities has been released and I'm doing this voluntarily, not being paid for it and my free time is limited.
I hope you understand.
We appreciate your work. Yeah, it is markdown like you said.
I know that the website always (slightly!) modifies my original HTML files. That was already the case before communities existed, BUT these small changes don't affect the appearance of the posts!
Therefore, if you check the source of my post, even if it differs from the original file, it is still alright.
However, when I want to edit this post, THEN the editor completely changes the code again in a way which changes the appearance of the post.
And even if the editor was not created to handle pure HTML, I never experienced that behavior before, even if I already wrote many hundred posts.
Sorry for this long explanation, but it is important for me that you can understand what I wanted to say. I tried my best to explain it, even if English is not my mother tongue.
I don't have the original file anymore, but I could create it again with help of the source of the post, because both are very similar.
I understand your point of using GitHub, but I hope you understand mine too: I may try to find out how to use it, but I am sure that the majority of users won't. That's why I think it would be great to have a place directly on this blockchain to spot and discuss errors.
I also understand that you don't have enough time to care about every request of so many users, but on the other side everybody, especially witnesses and developers profit most from a thriving STEEM blockchain based on a growing and satisfied user base. That's why I mentioned this problem here (and spent quite some of my precious time for pointing it out, as well). :)
According to the other comments I am not alone.
Anyway, in case I find enough time I may check how to use GitHub and open an issue there, but I hope that even if you cannot help me (again: I understand your lack of time) you may think about what I wrote: 99 % of all users never used GitHub (and won't do in future).
Have a nice day! :)
And the problem still isn't solved ...
If I have time i might create a bot that I can call to copy a post/comment into a GitHub issue
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For some it may sound strange, but I like the simplicity of the Steemit interface. :)
I also have difficulty when I want to edit my post, especially if I want to make a bilingual post
hopefully the appearance of Steemit can be even better and not confuse users
Thanks @jaki01 for sharing this post
Bei meinem ersten Beitrag seit dem Tron Zeitalter hatte ich auch wieder so einige Probleme. Da es ein DTube Post ist, muß das aber nicht zwangsläufig was mit dem neuen Frontend zu tun haben. Auf der Plattform funktioniert das Hochladen gelinde gesagt nicht immer so ganz erwartungsgemäß. ;-)
Das Thema Deines neuen Beitrags (soweit man ihn schon einsehen kann) ist übrigens sehr wichtig. Bin gespannt...
Den 'neuen' Beitrag gibt es bereits (Bundesregierung für Pflicht zur Passwortherausgabe!) ... das Problem besteht nur darin, ihn zu editieren.
Asche über mein Haupt. Als Entschuldigung kann ich aber glaubhaft geltend machen, daß ich die letzten 3 (oder waren es 4) Tage mit Hochdruck an einem neuen Track gearbeitet habe. Ich war (und bin es noch) wieder voll im Zombie-Modus und musste meine Frau gestern ernsthaft fragen, ob wir Sammstag oder Sonntag hätten. Daß ich ähnlich begeistert ob des neuen Gesetzes bin wie Du, kannst Du dir ja eigentlich schon denken. Den Beitrag habe ich eben schon (an-)gelesen, ebenso wie einen großen Teil der erquickenden Kommentare darunter. Ich werde auch noch etwas Senf dazugeben, auch wenn das meiste bereits gesagt wurde. Ein Beitrag, der wirklich Wellen schlägt. Mit Recht.
Kein Problem! :)
Viel Erfolg mit dem neuen Track!
I do the same and I find their HTML reformat to the HTML to their liking different from my original HTML text which I think really defeats the point of us making post in HTML.
Du bist nicht alleine.
Auch ich wunderte mich darüber, das bei einem Edit meines Artikels, im Vorschaubild alles super aussah, die Änderung war da, beim veröffentlichen allerdings tauchte sie nicht mehr auf.
Auch das mein letzter Beitrag, ohne mein Zutun, plötzlich in einer Natural Medicine Community auftauchte, finde ich verwunderlich.
Es sind hoffentlich nur kleine Kinderkrankheiten, die bald behoben werden.
Schönen Sonntag noch. 😎
Haven't posted via Steemit in a long time, I use Steempeak and then copy all the code into busy.., yes it a screwy way to do things but while it lasts I'll have that buy vote, thanks!
Haha, sounds complicated, as well. :)
Ich vermute mal, der Grund für das Problem dürfte an einer Art "virtueller Bauarbeiten" liegen, da der neue Besitzer hier ja schon andere Neuerungen (Stichwort:Communities) vorgenommen hat und sicher auch in anderen Bereichen noch viel vorhat, was auch immer das sein mag.
Änderungen wurden hier früher zwar auch öfter vorgenommen, aber gerade zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt scheint mir so ein Grund besonders wahrscheinlich zu sein, zumindest würde dieses Problem in dem Fall nur für eine begrenzte Zeit auftreten und hätte sich über kurz oder lang wieder von selbst erledigen.
Absolutely, you truly did the observation right I noticed it as well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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Good to know that I am not the only one, who is affected ...
In case any involved developer is reading here (and where else should they read if not in #hive-144703?), I would like to add that in the blog the option to hide resteems got lost and that one still cannot sort followers and the users one is following in an alphabetical order.