Break Out Trading Method - Do You Use This Method for Crypto Trading?

in #question9 years ago (edited)

Recently I've been talking to traders who use the breakout method. One trader uses this already for some time with crypto coins and the other trader is new to crypto coin trading, but comes from the stock trading side of things. Both are using the same method. And they seem to be successful in what they do.

Reason enough for be to start reading up on this method. Lots and lots of resources on the internet, so it was a little overwhelming for me. I eventually got to Investopedia that has a extensive article about break out trading that seems to be very legit.

I would like to ask those of you who are traders and know the breakout method (maybe you even apply this method as your trading method) to give your opinion on the Investopedia article (here).

If you are up to give your method in more details, I am more then all ears and eyes!


For those who do not like to serve away from this page, I copy/pasted the Investopedia article here below. I kept the links in the original article for those interested to surf and learn.

--- The Anatomy Of Trading Breakouts -- an Investopedia Article ---

Breakout trading is used by active investors to take a position within a trend's early stages. Generally speaking, this strategy can be the starting point for major price moves, expansions in volatility and, when managed properly, can offer limited downside risk. Throughout this article, we'll walk you through the anatomy of this trade from start to finish and offer a few ideas to better manage this trading style.

What Is a Breakout?

A breakout is a stock price that moves outside a defined support or resistance level with increased volume. A breakout trader enters a long position after the stock price breaks above resistance or enters a short position after the stock breaks below support. Once the stock trades beyond the price barrier, volatility tends to increase and prices usually trend in the breakout's direction. The reason breakouts are such an important trading strategy is because these setups are the starting point for future volatility increases and large price swings. In many circumstances, breakouts are the starting point for major price trends. (To learn more, read Spotting Breakouts As Easy As ACD.)Breakouts occur in all types of market environments. Typically, the most explosive price movements are a result of channel breakouts and price pattern breakouts such as triangles, flags or head and shoulders patterns (see Figure 1). As volatility contracts during these time frames, it will typically expand after prices move beyond the identified ranges.

Figure 1: A triangle breakout (Source: Prophet.net)

Regardless of the time frame, breakout trading is a great strategy. Whether you use intraday, daily or weekly charts, the concepts are universal. You can apply this strategy to day trading, swing trading or any style of trading.

Finding a Good Candidate

When trading breakouts, it is important to consider the underlying stock's support and resistance levels. The more times a stock price has touched these areas, the more valid these levels are and the more important they become. At the same time, the longer these support and resistance levels have been in play, the better the outcome when the stock price finally breaks out (see Figure 2).

Figure 2: The trading range shows multiple reactions to support over time (Source: Prophet.net)

As prices consolidate, various price patterns will occur on the price chart. Formations such as channels, triangles and flags are valuable vehicles when looking for stocks to trade. Aside from patterns, consistency and the length of time that a stock price has adhered to its support or resistance levels are important factors to consider when finding a good candidate to trade. (For more insight, check out Analyzing Chart Patterns.)

Entry Points

After finding a good instrument to trade, it is time to plan the trade. The easiest consideration is the entry point. Entry points are fairly black and white when it comes to establishing positions upon a breakout. Once prices are set to close above a resistance level, an investor will establish a bullish position. When prices are set to close below a support level, an investor will take on a bearish position.To determine the difference between a breakout and a "fake out", it is a good idea to wait for confirmation. For example, a fake out occurs when prices open beyond a support or resistance level, but by the end of the day, wind up moving back within a prior trading range. If an investor acts too quickly or without confirmation, there is no guarantee that prices will continue into new territory. For example, many investors look for above-average volume as confirmation or wait towards the close of a trading period to determine whether prices will sustain the levels they've broken out of. (For related reading, see Trading Failed Breaks.)

Planning Exits

Predetermined exits are an essential ingredient to a successful trading approach. When trading breakouts, there are three exits plans to arrange prior to establishing a position.

  1. Where to Exit With a Profit
    When planning target prices, look at the stock's recent behavior to determine a reasonable objective. When trading price patterns, it is easy to use the recent price action to establish a price target. For example, if the range of a recent channel or price pattern is six points, then that amount should be used as a price target to forward project once the stock breaks out (see Figure 3).



    Figure 3: Measuring a price targetSource: Prophet.net

    Another idea is to calculate recent price swings and average them out to get a relative price target. If the stock has made an average price swing of four points over the last few price swings, this would be a reasonable objective.These are a few ideas on how to set price targets as the trade objective. This should be your goal for the trade. After the goal is reached, an investor can exit the position, exit a portion of the position to let the rest run or raise a stop-loss order to lock in profits. (For more insight, see The Stop-Loss Order - Make Sure You Use It.)
     
  2. Where To Exit With a Loss
    It is important to know when a trade has failed. Breakout trading offers this insight in a fairly clear manner. After a breakout, old resistance levels should act as new support and old support levels should act as new resistance. This is an important consideration because it is an objective way to determine when a trade has failed and an easy way to determine where to set your stop-loss order. After a position has been taken, use the old support or resistance level as a line in the sand to close out a losing trade. As an example, study the PCZ chart in Figure 4.



    Figure 4: A triangle breakout (Source: Prophet.net)

    After a trade fails, it is important to exit the trade quickly. Never give a loss too much room. If you are not careful, losses can accumulate.
     
  3. Where To Set a Stop Order
    When considering where to exit a position with a loss, use the prior support or resistance level beyond which prices have broken. Placing a stop comfortably within these parameters is a safe way to protect a position without giving the trade too much downside risk. Setting a stop higher than this will likely trigger an exit prematurely because it is common for prices to retest price levels they've just broken out of.Looking at the chart in Figure 4, you can see the initial consolidation of prices, the breakout, the retest and then the price objective reached. The process is fairly mechanical. When considering where to set a stop-loss order, had it been set above the old resistance level, prices wouldn't have been able to retest these levels and the investor would have been stopped out prematurely. Setting the stop below this level allows prices to retest and catch the trade quickly if it fails.

Summary

In summary, here are the steps to follow when trading breakouts.

  1. Identify the Candidate
    Find stocks that have built strong support or resistance levels and watch them. Remember, the stronger the support or resistance, the better the outcome. Make sure you understand this when you shop for stocks to watch.
     
  2. Wait For the Breakout
    Finding a good candidate does not mean a trade should be taken prematurely. Wait patiently for the stock price to make its move. To be sure the breakout will hold, on the day the stock price trades outside its support or resistance level, wait until near the end of the trading day to make your move. Be patient. (For more on this, see Patience Is A Trader's Virtue.)
     
  3. Set a Reasonable Objective
    If you are going to take a trade, set an expectation of where it is going. If you don't, you won't know where to exit the trade. This can be done by calculating an average move that the stock makes or measuring the distance between support and resistance (especially when trading price patterns).
     
  4. Allow the Stock to Retest
    This is the most critical step. When a stock price breaks a resistance level, old resistance becomes new support. When a stock breaks a support level, old support becomes new resistance. In the majority of your trades, the stock will test the level it has broken after the first couple of days. Prepare for it. (For more on this phenomenon, read Support And Resistance Reversals.)
     
  5. Know When Your Trade/Pattern Has Failed
    When the stock attempts to retest a prior support or resistance level and it breaks back through it, this is where a pattern or breakout has failed. It is imperative you take the loss at this point. Don't gamble with your losses.
     
  6. Exit Trades Toward the Market Close
    You can't discern at the open whether prices will hold at a particular level. This is why you might consider waiting until near the market close to exit a losing trade. If a stock has remained outside a predetermined support or resistance level toward the market close, it is time to close the position and move on to the next.
     
  7. Be Patient
    This strategy requires plenty of patience. By following these steps, you will reduce emotion and be more objective about a trade.
     
  8. Exit at Your Target
    If you are not exiting the trade with a loss, then you are in the trade. You should remain in the trade until the stock price reaches its objective, or you reach your time target without hitting your target price.

Conclusion

Breakout trading welcomes volatility. The volatility experienced after a breakout is likely to generate emotion because prices are moving quickly and in a volatile fashion. Using the steps covered in this article will help you define a trading plan that, when executed properly, can offer great returns and manageable risk.

--- END of "The Anatomy Of Trading Breakouts" article -- an Investopedia Article ---

Looking forward to your views on above article, if this article provides a solid bases for trading, and how you adopt the break out trading method.

When trading I would like to keep in this state...

...hope you can help!?


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unfortunately for me i find it very hard to not take a profit when my money doubles, someone much smarter than me told me to make a plan and stick to the plan, find your acceptable number and set it up so your purchase automatically sells when it hits that number. and just ignore it , you can drive yourself crazy when you spend all day checking and checking , you will lose every time , most people just dont trust themselves enough to go with their first instinct and let it ride, the other thing is look at it like a poker game, when you throw your 20 in the pot its gone if you are smart and lucky you will get it back along with everyone elses money, the trick is dont throw more into the pot than you can afford to loose it takes the edge off. and lastly you never realize a loss until you sell so if it moves against you just close your eyes and shut down what you are looking at if your original plan made any sense it will come back.

I have no plan at all.
I just go in with spontaneous emotions.
I never put more than I can afford to loose, my only rule!
I trust my instincts, somehow glad I am so new and innocent not knowing much about trading.
I used to play poker with the boys and they were always amazed how bold I was. Haha, Me too but most of the time I didn't even really know what I was doing.
Trading is fun but I still have to learn a lot reading those articles.

I just go in with spontaneous emotions.

Hmmm, that is recipe for disaster I'm afraid. I know it, since I also apply next to some plan, emotions, and usually those emotions are creating a mess, at least for me. Three times already I let emotions lead, and lost in the trade :)

I trust my instincts

That is good. I call it gut feel. But also gut feel is not always right, but somehow I also try to really listen to my gut feel.

most of the time I didn't even really know what I was doing

In poker this may help, since you are unpredictable. When in poker you become predictable, then they get you big time and you are lost. And it is hard to not become predictable when playing a lot of poker, since most people will play according to some system, I suspect.

Trading is fun but I still have to learn a lot reading those articles.

I like trading as well, but now getting a bit tired of the amount of time I put in. So I need to be able to identify when to buy what coin, set some sell contract and walk away from the screen and also to go relaxed to bed while still having holdings in coins. My hours a day shall be reduced to maximum one our a day on trading and still coming out with serious profits :)

I better stop playing around then 😜

With coins? I would not bet on like it is poker. Bluffing is not something that is possible in trading :)

Thank you so much for your extensive comment.

someone much smarter than me told me to make a plan and stick to the plan

That is what I hear a lot indeed, and my logic tells me that this is true. Long time ago when going to casinos I always had the same plan, and I always stuck to it, and it brought me next to pleasure, also some profit, especially at the roulette table. Having that experience, and traders telling me to make a plan and stick to it no matter what, I tend to believe these people.

dont throw more into the pot than you can afford to loose it

Agree!

never realize a loss until you sell so if it moves against you just close your eyes and shut down what you are looking at if your original plan made any sense it will come back

Cryptospace seems to be highly volatile and indeed I sold cryptos in the past weeks sometimes with just a bit profit after it came back up again, and then I saw the next day 20-50% gain. Shoot! :)

I'm experimenting with holding a position while I'm not at the screen watching (without knowing anything). Until now I traded the short rides up, minutes mostly taking 2-10% profit. Takes a LOT of time, sometimes waiting for hours before I traded. Sometimes just being lucky when I did a quick trade. Mostly got me gains though. But the time it requires is not sustainable for me. I need to start trading on information and right entry points, rather than the realtime charts telling me what to do NOW :)

This is a truly helpful post! Thankyou @edje!

I'm glad such an old post got some attention and was helpful to you.

Reposting so I can look back and reference it. Thanks so much for this info!!
Digger

You are welcome :)

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