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RE: You can't have it both ways, Constitutionalists

in #liberty8 years ago

"You seriously mistake what an Oath of Office is"

It has to do with governing others. There is no such "authority" to do that. You can't delegate a "right" which you don't have (and which can't exist). Swearing an oath to govern others, in whatever way you swear to do it, even according to some rules that supposedly limit what you can do to them, is wrong.

"...you can call it evil all day long but if you cannot draw up a good enough argument as to how it is wrong for people to have lawful governance (with consent)"

Sure I can.

First, in order to pretend there is such a thing as "lawful governance", you have to mistake "law" (man-made edicts) with Law (Natural Law, which is discovered, not invented).

No one can have the right to govern other people. Natural Law doesn't allow it. You can govern yourself, and that is the only governance which is lawful under Natural Law. Any attempt to govern others is not lawful under Natural Law, but only under the same made-up "laws" which made chattel slavery "lawful". All external governance is a violation of self-ownership.

Imposing external governance on others, being beyond anything you have a right to do, violates them. If you do it intentionally, you are committing evil. Committing evil is wrong.

You can consent to allow someone to govern you if that makes you happy, but you can't consent on anyone else's behalf. Majority doesn't make it right.

"...it's paramount to pointing at the constitution and blaming it to move one inch by itself."

I'm not blaming the Constitution, I'm blaming those who imposed it on others generations before the others were born. I'm blaming those who believe the Constitution had any power or "authority" to control the growth of the State it established. The evidence that this was a lie is all around them, if they bother to observe reality.

"The constitution is in no capacity to do any thing."

What? It didn't establish a State? Then where did the "United States of America" come from?

"The details are simply that the state and constitution have nothing to do with you but everything with the State,"

Then I would appreciate it if the government extremists would keep their filthy State to themselves and off of my life.

"...I can consent to a lawful governance and a lawful competent and completely liable Referee who swears to act in arbitration in matters of infringement onto the Golden Rule, period."

Agreed. Again. You can. It doesn't even matter whether the "governance" you consent to is "lawful" or not. But you can't legitimately consent for any other person. You can't rightfully expect others to help you pay for the thing you want, but that they don't. You can't ethically demand that they move to Somalia just because they don't consent to your gang's aggressive and thieving control of the territory.

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