Glock and 1911, My Conversion.
One of several pieces explaining my transition from the 1911 to the Glock pistol. This is an old piece. I no longer carry or own the 21SF. All are 9mm now and I own only the 19 and 17. Enjoy.
I have spent years shooting and drilling alongside and with both 1911 and Glock pistols.
Since I was 10 years old I was versed in all things 1911 from my father. I grew up shooting a Colt Government series 80 with extensive work done to it by gunsmiths from the Gunsite custom shop back in the early 90's. I can shoot it well, still. I qualify with the 1911 every 6 months in accordance with strict tactical shooting standards to maintain my position on the SRT team. I have been involved in multiple "call-outs" and continue to carry my 1911, for now that is.
I was the spokesman for the 1911 and still am, to those who have the time to train on them and desire to shoot that particular platform. The thing is, I saw in black in white. I considered the 1911 the only platform, period. I never passed up the opportunity to slam on Glocks. Oh how I loved to tell guys that all a glock needs is a treble hook and some glitter to pull behind a boat. I despised and hated the, "tactical tupperware", the "crunch-tickers".
A few individuals on our tactical team carried Glocks and swore by them. I mocked them. I would rat-hole targets, and my 1911 functioned without failures. The thing is, their Glocks did the same. I began to question my hatred for these plastic blocky pistols.
I stared in Awe, as one officer literally out shot a line up of fellow SRT members with his Glock 21. We performed a myriad of drills everywhere from the 3 yard line to the 25 yard line. We did failure drills, speed re-loads, head shots, shooting on the move, oblique right, oblique left, kneeling, etc. Two officers held Nighthawk Custom GRPs, I had my Colt Series 80, a few had Kimbers, and one had a Wilson Combat CQB. All did well. At the end, with over 150 rounds of .45 ball fired and "0" failures, the officer with the Glock 21 had not dropped one single round. He had a 100%. I was shocked that the $400 gun had just competed well with the $2500 guns. My opinion began to shift slowly.
A pistol is a secondary weapon. All operators carry a primary weapon; a rifle, carbine or shotgun. The moment you are forced to use your pistol, you probably are too close to the enemy, out of ammo in your long gun, had a failure of your primary weapon, or worse, found yourself without your long gun. I asked myself, can I justify having $2500 of my hard earned money tied up in a secondary weapon, when a $400 weapon would do the same thing?
A combat pistol must be reliable. The Glock is without a doubt. A combat pistol must have a tremendous availability of parts and interchangability with others of its type. The Glock is. It must be easy to break down and clean, light weight, corrosion resistant, simple to handle and operate, and require little to no maintenance in times of hard use. A combat pistol should also have an increased capacity in its magazines.
Some 1911s, are so highly customized and "tight" that even a new barrel has to be custom fit by a smith. If you take the many 1911 makes, the parts are NOT interchangeable. Where you can dump the parts of 100 Glock 21s on a table and re-assemble at random, you will have 100 functioning Glocks. Try this with 100 1911's.
Without fine oils and lube, or with the introduction of dirt or sand, a 1911 has its issues. 1911 Magazines carry only 7-8 rounds. Yes, "All you need is ONE". However put yourself in a downed Blackhawk surrounded by a seething, roaring crowd of people trying to kill you and tell my all you want is 7 round mags when you can have 13-15 round mags.
Where it takes me a good while to clean my 1911 and swab its rifled barrel, I can wipe down, clean, swab and oil my Glock in mere minutes. The best part. Because my Glock only cost me about $400 I beat it. I don't worry about it like I did my multi-$K pistols. I sold the Nighthawk and bout $2600 worth of Glock and other gun stuff.
For now I will have to continue to eat bowl after bowl of Crow soup. For I am as they say, "EATING CROW". You would not believe the abuse I get now for having "converted" and "switched sides".
"Listend to this guy," colleagues rant. "Six months ago he couldn't hate Glocks enough!"
Well I am here to tell you, I was wrong. I apologize Glock, for any business I steered away. I will make it up to you somehow.
Please don't come after me all ye mall ninjas who hate so easily. Leave your pistol zealotry elsewhere.
Glock 21 gen4 because I do like .45 acp but single stacks don't fit well for me. I wish the G19 fit better than it does for me
I’ve never owned a Glock or a 1911 of any sort. I shoot a CZ P09 in IPSC Matches and whilst there are definite disadvantages between it and a CZ Shadow 2 for instance I seem to go ok in my class (Production). I want my guns to work no matter what and so lean towards guns that have a more field orientation. I’m not an operator of any sort, just a sport/fun shooter but imagine that when it’s on the line (lives) people like you want a gun that works, that is easily cared for and not fussy for lack of a better word. A popular gun that fails doesn’t seem as valuable as a less-popular one that does not.
In IPSC circles there’s many talkers (wankers) happy to poo poo other people’s equipment as inferior but for me I shoot what I can afford, what will require little or no maintenance and what is easily replaceable. I focus harder on acquiring skills in my shooting, movement, target acquisition, calling wind, trigger pull, breathing etc. (for pistol or rifle as necessary) than having the most expensive or popular equipment.
In PRSAus I shoot a RPR 6.5mm Creedmoor Rifle with Kahles 624i on top and Atlas bipod below. I get good results over $20,000 rifle systems due to all the other things combined, great stage planning and (probably) some luck.
Good post. Thanks.
AWESOME!! I have a RPR in 6.5 Creedmoor as well! Haven't got her all set up yet.
I’ve taken mine out to 1551m with multiple hits on a 1.5moa plate in 12mph full value wind. Love the caliber and for the money the rifle works well. I just built a 6mm on a CTR action too. Looking forward to load development on that one! Sounds like you have a lot of pew’s to play with. :)
My dad is working on some loads and we will have lots of video an articles on it hopefully. He has a Tikka Tac A1 in 6.5.
I was shooting one of them last week. Nice rifle, finished better than the RPR and with a more comfortable grip. Will be interested to see what load your dad comes up with for the RPR. I use the Sierra 142gr HPBT with AR2209 (43.4gr) in Hornady brass and Federal primer. I'm getting 2845fps in MV. No pressure signs despite it being well over the ADI recommended maximum load.
We don't have many guns in New Zealand. I've heard that they propel a piece of lead at velocities sufficient to cause injury or death.
I think your gun looks a bit weak, as it is small and plastic, like a toy. You Americans think you know about guns, because you hear about them on the rap videos.
That is why you have a 9mm.
I bet you think that holding it sideways is more accurate.
You should make your hand stronger with exercises, and get one of those shiny guns with the wheel bit in the middle. Guys like cowboys use them and hit every time. It's basically instant death.
Good luck, and please invest in some more education. You should have voted for Bernie Sanders or just Obama again, or that cool lady (I forgot her name).
What do you do for work down there in NZ? I don't hold it sideways, I use the isosceles stance:
I hope you realise that was satire. I'm a baker.
If I was lucky enough to live there, I'd have a Glock in .357 Sig, a 45/70 Marlin 1895G Guide Gun and an anxiety disorder.
Oh man I am sorry bro! Ha ha. I get so many anti gun trolls and leftist progressives, I assume everyone hates American men these days. Thanks for the clarity! Ha ha - now I am laughing at it. At first I was like......who is this soft little man?
I was astounded by your patience. I would have lost my fucking mind.
I have been on the internet long enough to not sweat the trolling too much. The ones that get to me are the blatant holier than thou leftist progressives trying to force their morality and world view upon those who don't wish to have it. Look leftists, I have explored every single facet of anti-gun rhetoric and illogic, debated it within debates, like dreams within dreams, like Inception - and you know what, when I wake up every time, their argument is flawed and wrong.
This is a funny comment thread. @business got you a good one @dennyducet. I was reading his initial comment thinking I wonder how you're going to choke him out from the States! His comment:
I think your gun looks a bit weak, as it is small and plastic, like a toy. You Americans think you know about guns, because you hear about them on the rap videos
That shit cracked me up.
Trying to earn some crypto for a nightmare trade I placed today....d'dang..... might have to suck start a Glock to clear my head.
Would the Holocaust have happened if the Jews had glocks? I think not.
I took a time machine to the Warsaw ghetto and brought 20,000 AK-47s. We saved 100,000 people from death camps.
Yeah he got me. It was funny!