My Critique on Oracle-D's Upvotes [Correction Added]

in #oracle-d5 years ago (edited)

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Correction added below

Okay, I may be shooting myself in the foot with this post, but I feel that it is my duty to talk about some issues with Oracle-D upvotes. The reason why I'm writing this post is because I absolutely love what Oracle-D is doing for the Steem blockchain and I want them to offer the best service possible to their clients. This mean that I really have to be critical to a certain extent, since there is a real problem emerging due to the high-value upvotes Oracle-D is giving out.

I will keep this post as general as possible, without calling anyone out. Do understand that I have absolutely no intention to speak negatively about the work of Oracle-D reviewers, team members or admins. I fully understand that what Oracle-D does is a completely new form of doing business and with that come a lot of new problems which are not easily recognized.


Milking the System

Usually there's no limit on the number of posts you can write on any given Oracle-D task. This causes some members, yes even pro-members, to just churn out several posts about any given topic that relates to an Oracle-D task.

I've noticed that there's no difference in the upvote amounts these subsequent posts are given. Take the recent Lolli task for example, people were just posting multiple articles divided into several parts and they usually received pretty big upvotes.

The thing that really struck me, was that most of these posts have absolutely no value for the client. Some people didn't even link to the client's website in their post or they focused on content that was only vaguely related to the client. Yet, these posts received upvotes worth around $10 from Oracle-D, no more no less.

This was when I first noticed people literally milking Oracle-D for upvotes. Okay, the quality of their writing was pretty good, but there was a complete and utter disregard for the client in my opinion.


State of the Dapps Knows What's Up

Now, take a look at the most recent State of the Dapps task. Notice how they've now limited the amount of submissions to 2 articles per person? I reckon that they've figured out that it's better to have fewer pieces of quality content than to have many pieces of average content.


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It's good that they've added a cap on the number of articles each person can submit. I'm sure that they'll reap the benefits of it in this task.

Speaking about the State of the Dapps task, there's something I've noticed with one of the entries that isn't okay at all. Yet this particular entry did receive a high upvote, while it contained a huge mistake. Feel free to contact me on Discord about this: @starkerz


Conclusion & Advice for the Future

To convert this critique into some real change might not be too easy. I get that it might be incredibly difficult for reviewers to take all these aspects into consideration and adjust upvotes according to actual post value. In the end, what I'm suggesting is to be a little bit more strict regarding giving out high-value upvotes and take task requirements more into account, with the purpose of doing what's best for the client and Oracle-D.

It's definitely important that Oracle-D tasks remain accessible for as many people as possible. It's not my goal to turn it into something only the best content creators can participate with. All I'm suggesting is to perhaps put a limit on the number of posts anyone can submit per task (make this applicable for every task) & to pay closer attention regarding the value each submission brings to the client specifically (and alter the range of upvote values given).

Some very common mistakes I often notice with submissions that have received high upvotes:

  • Not linking correctly to the client's website + incorrect use of backlinks
  • Not tagging images
  • Basic errors - I.e. images are too large, use of bad keywords, etc.
  • Mentioning Oracle-D in posts

I'd be more than willing to join a voice call to highlight some of these problems a bit further & perhaps work on a solution!

Thanks in advance for taking this post into consideration.


Correction

Sometimes when you publish an article and read it again a few days later, you realize that you've made some pretty severe mistakes in it. This was the case after I'd written a critique about Oracle-D's upvotes. The situation I had described in that article wasn't nearly as severe as I had portrayed it to be and it certainly didn't warrant the elaborate criticism I had given it.

It would have been better to just mention the couple of problems I had encountered via Discord and they would have been fixed immediately. I made it seem as though there was a real problem with the quality of some of the content, which wasn't the case in any way. Since all articles published on the Steem blockchain stay on the blockchain forever, I felt the need to publish this correction and a public apology. Instead of completely altering my previous article, I will add a clear and visible link to this correction.


The Value Oracle-D Provides

The biggest mistake I had made in my previous article, was that I made it seem as though Oracle-D didn't provide enough value to their clients. Well, I have spent the entire morning going through multiple task entries, something that I should have done more meticulously when researching my previous post, and I've come to the conclusion that in terms of content, pretty much all Oracle-D task entries adhere to a very decent standard. Just to give a concrete example, I have not found any task entry where the author didn't spend a substantial amount of time writing their post.

It's important to note that all articles are written by people from different walk of life, which is what really gives value to each and every article. Every writer or video maker provides their unique perspective about any given project and I commend Oracle-D for rewarding these people accordingly. There's this amazing range of quality to be found, some pieces of content could even be published in professional publications, others offer valuable insights from people who would otherwise not be heard. It's exactly this wide variety of content that provides potential clients with a new form of viral marketing & a strong base of voluntarily created content about their services.

On a more personal level, the people that participate with the Oracle-D tasks improve their writing and have a chance to build a sustainable form of side-income on the Steem blockchain. It was pretty short-sighted of me to discredit that in my previous post, for which I explicitly apologize.


Maximum Amount of Task Entries

In this regard there's been a very recent change, participants can now post a maximum of two articles per task. I very much welcome this change and that was the reason why I had written my previous article in the first place.

The thing is that I am 100% sure that Oracle-D would have implemented this change if someone had simply made this suggestion in private. It isn't that people who write multiple articles do so at the cost of quality (which I had wrongly implied in my previous post), but rather that it's somewhat debatable that more than 2 articles on any given subject, written by the same author, provides enough additional value. Anyway, that's a thing of the past now, so public discussion about this doesn't achieve anything.


Unfair Targeting of Oracle-D Reviewers

Even though I mentioned in the beginning of my previous post that I didn't intend to speak negatively about any of the Oracle-D team members, I feel that I still spoke negatively about them through the contents of the post itself.

I know for a fact that they take great pride into giving each post a fair evaluation, while taking special notice of the value it provides for the client. Laying out my not-so-well-researched critique out in public like that wasn't fair to them or Oracle-D as a whole.

Oracle-D's reviewers are continuously doing an amazing job and take a very humane approach to reviewing content. Compared to some certain curators from other projects, I feel that they show a great deal of understanding for individual members. Everyone gets a fair chance to submit content in their own personal style, which is definitely one of the great strengths of Oracle-D.


Conclusion

By writing and publishing this post, I know that I'm opening myself up for criticism and that it might severely damage my reputation among my followers. However, not publishing this would be dishonest & potentially cause harm to Oracle-D in the future.

If I were looking to hire Oracle-D for a project on the Steem blockchain, I would want to be given a balanced and well-researched opinion on Oracle-D. My previous article was neither of those things and I hope I can correct that with this article.

Now, regarding the comments under my previous article. It's very easy to have your opinion influenced by the negativity that was displayed in that article. I would just ask to take note of the mistakes I've laid bare through this post and possibly adjust your opinion accordingly. If you look at the bigger picture, it's absolutely clear that Oracle-D does so much good for the entire Steem community. The interview between Andrarchy & the founders of Oracle-D really proves that as well.

So, to conclude this post, I hope that I've made it abundantly clear why my previous post was factually incorrect and uncalled for and that I've not pushed anyone away from Oracle-D. Keep in mind that they're a very welcoming community & that everyone's welcome to participate with their open tasks!


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Really useful post @daan. @Oracle-D haven't been going very long, in comparison to others on Steem but all of the time they have been working to add value to the blockchain. They keep trying to improve the service they offer to their clients and writers. Did it occur to anyone that OD have just been trying to upgrade (and have succeeded) their platform? The writers, that all volunteer their time have been really useful in testing this new layout. It will take time for everything to smooth out especially the confusion over task dates. I for one can't thank everyone enough for all of the efforts they have put in during this change, from CEO, CTO, developer and writers. Some of the writers have taken part in tasks when they weren't rewarded much at all at the start. In their countries there is more to worry about than doing a few extra posts. Not one of them has ever made $200 for taking a photo of a cup of coffee or a cat. I say good luck to all of them.

The new platform is definitely an amazing upgrade over the old one. Everything just works a lot smoother and I don't think I've seen another complaint about the loading speed ;)

Now, I absolutely didn't mean to say that Oracle-D has ever upvoted any real spam, that's not the case. You've been really good keeping that out, that's for sure! Without mentioning anyone in specific, you probably also know that sometimes people tend to write a little bit too much ;)

That's the main concern I was trying to highlight here.

I even wonder how some people can submit more than one, it takes me hours to get mentally prepared enough to even write one.

To be honest I have not looked into how Oracle D award their upvotes, all I know is when the best are announced, I go read theirs so I can make mine better in the next task.

Throughout last year when I saw posts submitted to Oracle-D tasks, oh my, I used to aspire to be able to write such quality, not just because of the upvotes but because of opportunites it opens like @bozz mentioned in his comment.

This year I finally took the leap forward to begin trying out these tasks, not knowing I was already ready for it. The time I recieved my first Oracle-D upvote, Though small, was enough confirmation that I was unto something, and I could only get better.

I totally understand your plight, business wise, good quality reviews from people will only bring more businesses from outside, and even better incentives for the community.

I appreciate how Oracle-D has been working, I will love that the reputation of the community remains of utmost originality, quality and strict adherence to rules.

Nice calling bro.

In the end, I was still a bit more negative than I should have been. These small issues (because that's essentially what they are) are nothing in comparison with all the good that Oracle-D does.

They provide a lot of value to both Steem and the people that write for Oracle-D. I actually love the fact that they're giving people from different backgrounds a chance to earn and improve their writing.

Well said @daan! I feel the same way as you do about a lot of the things you have mentioned here. I've come to enjoy the members and team at Oracle-D and posting for them has definitely upped my game in terms of the way I write. I now have people asking me to proof read white papers for their projects and I think that is in large part due to the work I have been doing on Oracle-D. They have worked hard to grow their business and maintain their VP to ensure authors are getting rewarded adequately. It makes me sad to see people taking advantage of that. I am sure with a few small changes a mutually beneficial solution can be reached.

Yeah I know we've talked a lot about this subject in private. I'm still unsure whether writing a public post about this was such a good idea, but I think I've kept it pretty neutral and constructive in the end.

This is all new for everyone, so it's only logical that the whole process isn't 100% streamlined.

I have mentioned to @starkerz that I would talk about @oracle-d while at SteemCamp.

I like the idea of these reviews but not of creating the same old thing as everyone else does, even if I forfeit potential rewards.

Yeah, a lot of the content is pretty similar and I personally think that's not exactly best for the clients. Don't get me wrong, there are some excellent content creators participating with these tasks, but I feel that the reviewing process could be optimized a bit.

Now, I do think that you can definitely write in your own style and get rewarded for that. In fact I'm sure the clients would actually love that!

I heard from @bozz about that he's been promoted to senior writer or something.. whats all these tiers about?

Oh yeah, he's been promoted to a pro-member status, which means that he can participate with private oracle-D tasks, that are only visible on the Oracle-D member portal :)

You also have open tasks, anyone can participate with those.

Not really tiers, but there are open tasks and pro tasks. Anyone can post about the open tasks, but only pro creators can post on the pro tasks. Then there is @daan the wizzard, he just does whatever the flip he wants apparently... :)

Hey @daan, do you know how many moderators they have at @oracle-d? Perhaps you can help out as one of their moderators? It is good to keep the quality at high standard.

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I'm not sure how many they have and this wasn't meant to be an application or anything ;)

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But it seems not everybody can or always do the oracle-d task. Few always try it out. Well including me, I haven't tried the task before

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& to pay closer attention regarding the value each submission brings to the client specifically (and alter the range of upvote values given).

I wonder... ¿Is it such a surprise that the so self-called 'Curators & Reviewers' in this whole place can't arse to actually READ a sweetened shit before grant an upvote anymore?

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Completely disagree with what you're saying. The reviewers do read each and every article thoroughly. As I've said in the beginning of my post, this isn't aimed at the reviewers.

I feel that the main problem could be the lack of a standardized procedure regarding upvotes and possible deduction of upvote value.

Well, maybe it's true that 'some' reviewers might read each and every article thoroughly. But clearly the ones in charge to grant the upvotes doesn't!!

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