Attack on Saudi Oil Fields - Who Don' It?

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Two coordinated attacks on Saudi oil fields took place on the night of September 13th. The US is blaming the regime in Iran, but it is much much more complicated than that.

As Moonofalabama points out here and [here]](https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/09/damage-at-saudi-oil-plant-points-to-well-targeted-swarm-attack.html#more), this attack was very complex and precise, down to the timing of the event:

The pictures show some 17 points of impact. There are cars visible in the second more detailed picture that demonstrate the gigantic size of the place. The targets were carefully selected. At least 11 of those were egg shaped tanks with a diameter of some 30 meter (100 foot). These are likely tanks for pressurized (liquidized) gas that receive the condensate vapor from the stabilization process. They all have now quite neat holes in their upper shells.

The piping to and from the egg shaped tanks shows that these were configured in groups with double redundancy. Two tanks beside each other share one piping system. Two of such twin tanks are next to each other with lines to their processing train. There are a total of three such groups. Damage to any one tank or group would not stop the production process. The products would be routed to another similar tank or group. But with all tanks of this one special type taken out the production chain is now interrupted.

Two processing areas were hit and show fire damage. At least the control equipment of both was likely completely destroyed:

Consultancy Rapidan Energy Group said images of the Abqaiq facility after the attack showed about five of its stabilization towers appeared to have been destroyed, and would take months to rebuild - something that could curtail output for a prolonged period.
“However Saudi Aramco keeps some redundancy in the system to maintain production during maintenance,” Rapidan added, meaning operations could return to pre-attack levels sooner.

The targeting for this attack was done with detailed knowledge of the process and its dependencies.

The north arrow in those pictures points to the left. The visible shadows confirm the direction. The holes in the tanks are on the western side. They were attacked from the west.

The hits were extremely precise. The Yemeni armed forces claimed it attacked the facility with 10 drones (or cruise missiles). But the hits on these targets look like neither. A total of 17 hits with such precise targeting lets me assume that these were some kind of drones or missiles with man-in-the-loop control. They may have been launched from within Saudi Arabia.

There is no information yet on the damage in Khurais, the second target of the attacks.

The U.S. and Israel are able to commit such attacks. Iran probably too. Yemen seems unlikely to have this capability without drawing on extensive support from elsewhere. The planing for this operation must have taken months.

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It's basically narrowed it down to the United States and Isreal, because they alone boost of such power and war head without even raising an attention at all, after surveying the precision of the attack, one can't help but know that the whole information used to coordinate these attacks are detailed and there may even be possibilities that someone on the inside provided this information, I mean the tanks the position and location, etc

Many parties who want Saudi oil. The Middle East region will indeed continue to flare up until doomsday comes. That has already been said in our Qur'an.

Iran is a major oil producer and know precisely where to damage oil facilities.
It has successfully attacked Saudi Arabia from Yemen with drones and cruise missiles in combination (drones to take out air defences.)
It has unsuccessfully tried to attack Israel with drones, but Israeli air defences are far superior to the aged US Patriot system used by the Saudis.
Saudi is (for better or worse) a major US ally and there is no way Israel or the US would attack it and endanger the world economy on which they both rely. The last thing Trump needs is a big oil price spike running into an election year. That is why Iran was willing to try such a daring and dramatic attack.

The precision of the attack proves that Iran knows what it is doing when it comes to drone warfare and oil facilities, at least against a weaker opponent, like Saudi.
It justifies the many Israeli strikes on Iranian drone facilities in Syria and Iraq. If not for these strikes many Israeli critical facilities would have been hit by Iranian drones.

Check out my related post on the topic. https://steempeak.com/saudi/@apshamilton/putin-offers-to-sell-s400-to-saudi-but-actually-only-israeli-air-defenses-are-proven-against-drones-v1qukuyo

They were not just Iranian. They were also Yemeni from the Houthis.

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The Houthis are an Iranian proxy force, using Iranian weapons, tactics and training.
These attacks are both technically and operationally well beyond the capability of 3rd world tribesmen in the poorest country in the world.

They are now. Originally they were just a rebel group in the north and didn't want Yemen to become one nation in 1990. Years of the central government attacking them (run by a puppet dictator put in place by Washington) grew their power.

Everything the US does on "behalf on its allies" has helped the Iranians.

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The Jews benefit the most from a Saudi-US alliance turning Iran into slag. The Jews have been lobbying hard for the US to turn Iran into another Iraq for the past decade without much success. With Syria in chaos, Iraq dismembered, Saudi stuck in Yemen quagmire, and Egypt neutered, the time for Jewish ascendency is at hand.

If Israel wanted Iran turned into slag it could easily do it itself.
It is far more powerful militarily in the Middle East than the US, Saudi and Russia put together.

But actually Israel has been very soft on Iran because Jews and Persians have a close friendship lasting more than 2500 years.

Israel wants to overthrow the regime enslaving Iranians without hurting the Persian people.

Yes, Israel has nuclear weapons. So the idea that Iran is a threat to America and the world is a sad joke.

I have no problem with Israel handling its own business. But that's not reality. The US is drawn into the region and fights conflicts on behalf of countries in the region and special interests.

Americans at home do not want to fight any wars for Saudi, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Israel or Turkey. The slaughter in Yemen by the Saudis could not take place without US support with arms, diplomatic cover and naval blockade.

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I agree with much of what you say.

Israel does not want and does not benefit from US wars in the Middle East.
The US just makes a big mess because it doesn't understand the region and has always been crap at land wars (it is a naval power, not a land power) and asymetric wars.

Israel warned the US against the Iraq war (because it would empower Iran) and the Syrian civil war has turned a border that was peaceful for 40 years into a front line.
Israel has zero interest in Yemen. US involvement is about protecting oil supplies.

This all isn't to say that other Israeli officially didn't warn the US not to go after Saddam. Lawrence Wilkerson confirmed that. All governments have different factions within them. Sharon also urged the US to go to war. But his intelligence officials suggested otherwise.

That isn't completely true.

The Likud Party in Israel wanted Saddam removed and Syria destabilized. They also wanted Gaddafi gone. A think tank wrote two policy papers in the that were penned and signed by Americans with Israeli citizenship that went on to work within the Bush administration. They were members of the Likud Party and express their goals for the century.

So to say that "Israel does not want and does not benefit from US" is inaccurate. The government of Israel does. Much like the government of the US does too. But the PEOPLE in both nations suffer greatly. Along with the Arab and Persian populations of the region.

One is called "A Clean Break" and the PDF is here

The second is "Coping with Crumbling States" and the PDF is found here

The documents lay out policies for the incoming Netanyahu government.

Your timing is all wrong.
These papers were written well AFTER the Iraq War (2005 & 2009).
They represent trying to make the best of the situation after the US invasion, not an encouragement to invade.

Also two American Israelis do not represent the views of the Israeli government.
Plenty of senior Israelis were warning against the second Gulf War.

The Gulf War preparations started in 2002 with hostilities breaking out on 20 March 2003, less than 4 weeks after Ariel Sharon (Likud) formed the 30th government on 28 February 2003.
For all the prior 4 year period Labor had been in government.

It is quite wrong to suggest Likud influence had anything to do the US decision to invade Iraq.

They were absolutely written in 1996 by David Wurmser for the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies. The study group was lead by Richard Perle before Bibi's first term in office. The dates on the PDFs are from when they were created....

They were both written in 1996.

It's quite amazing that you'd suggest that Likud had no influence when there have been hundreds of books written on the subject, and the documents I noted you are not familiar with. The documents explain the coming year 2000, and reference 1996 in the present tense.

Of the following list:

Douglas Feith went on to head the "Office of Special Plans" within Dick Cheney's office. He was indited for espionage by the FBI for passing US intel to Israel through AIPAC.

I quote a famous investigative report called "The Spies that Pushed for War" that outlines Feith's involvement directly with Israeli intelligence:

"The OSP was an open and largely unfiltered conduit to the White House not only for the Iraqi opposition. It also forged close ties to a parallel, ad hoc intelligence operation inside Ariel Sharon's office in Israel specifically to bypass Mossad and provide the Bush administration with more alarmist reports on Saddam's Iraq than Mossad was prepared to authorise.

"None of the Israelis who came were cleared into the Pentagon through normal channels," said one source familiar with the visits. Instead, they were waved in on Mr Feith's authority without having to fill in the usual forms.

The exchange of information continued a long-standing relationship with Mr Feith and other Washington neo-conservatives had with Israel's Likud party."

I find it confusing how you state that Sharon's comments took place after the war started, and didn't mention Bibi's. Also, ignoring the way wars are fought, that there is planning to goes into the war prior to invasion.

This scandal is well documented and only a biased view of the events or a lack of research would lead you to believe that Likud had no influence within the Bush administration.

Here is also Bibi in front of Congress explaining how removing Saddam would have "enormous positive reverberations on the region".

Uncle Sam is lock and loaded to respond to these recent attacks on Saudi Oil fields, I think the rebel group behind this attack seem very Amature. They need to understand, nobody, literally nobody touched areas of US interest, this is enough to for Bald Eagle (America) to get rid of the Yemen in on go. Now US interest that being Oil, is too precious commodity for US, these rebels shall face very massive setback or may also face mass extinction of whatever ideology they have. We all know Oil anywhere on this planet belongs to US (by default, lol), isn't it??? May be Yemenes need to put down that cheap KHAT addiction, and ask for forgiveness, I don't think there is any other solution to this. What you say ??

The US is actively negotiating with the Houthis for peace. Because the Houthis are winning in Yemen.

The US has already attacked Yemen for years and killed 100s of thoust

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