RE: Steemit: The Anti-Social Network
I'm told if an account signs up via SteemIt this is not the results they would expect to see.
This is an important point to remember - that the user/company/project creating the account will be able to ensure whether the created account has enough SP/RCs to interact on the blockchain.
An account with zero SP obviously won’t be able to do much...but it also isn’t how accounts are typically created for new users. The original post is simply showing that SteemMonsters’ account creation service is inadequate for more “normal” social media use, and probably by design. As far as I can tell, their service is simply provided to card collectors as a means to collect their cards via the game’s interaction with the Steem blockchain. Maybe in the future they can consider delegating or offering upgraded packages that include more SP/RCs.
In any case, it isn’t necessarily a problem with RCs or the system. It’s just an issue with this particular service. I think the post is overly dramatic, considering that it’s about a zero-SP account.
What were the expectations for such an account? Resources cost money. Free accounts are a net drain on resources. Somebody is paying the cost for a user’s “free” interaction.
Complaining about getting a free account from a game’s package-deal and threatening to quit the platform over it is a little absurd, in my opinion. It should be made clear to readers that this is not a situation that most new users will encounter.
First of all I was unaware of the difference between this account and the one provided by Steemit. (I didn't read through the 500 page manual to understand all the intricacies of this place yet)
Second, I have read the response by @ned and @whatsup and did take the time to thank them for clarifying the fact that the @steemmonsters account is the bare minimum and has nothing given to it to help people use it (like Steemit does with their free accounts).
Third, the concept of even having a social network is you want people to communicate. Of course it costs money, that's called a business. If you want to have a business that consists of a social platform, then you should not complain that the users of the system cost money. ALL SOCIAL PLATFORMS ARE FREE TO COMMENT ON.
Fourth, I bought the @steemmonster package to see what a new account would go through. I PAID $10 to get the account this way. So while Steemit Inc might be so gracious as to loan people enough RCs to make 10 whole comments a day, I'm sure that there will be many that do as @steemmonsters has done and just give the bare minimum. (PS I don't think they did this out of malice, but they haven't read the 500 page user manual either so they can operate through this complex web of rules to follow)
Fifth, what I find absurd is that you jump to the conclusion that me pointing out a FACT means that I have threatened to quit. I did no such thing. I merely pointed out the truth of what I witnessed with my own eyes.
Finally, the condescension that you show here is exactly what makes people have disdain for the whales. Instead of taking the time to point out where I was wrong and having a civil discussion, you basically resorted to calling me "cheap" and "petty" with this line:
You are an arrogant ass for that comment and I have just removed my vote for you as a witness. I don't threaten anything, I just do what I feel is right. And while I might have thought you were a straight shooter in the past and voted for you as a witness, I now see that you have the same problems of the other "elites" here (arrogance).
One day you will find that maybe there's a reason why successful businesses talk to their customers and learn how they feel about the product. Until that day though, you can just keep thinking you are superior to us little newer guys trying to "figure it out".
PS. It is not my job to make this place easy to operate. I will clarify always my opinions and beliefs. I have no plans to create disinformation or to hurt anyone. But maybe people like you should go around and help people to understand things better (since you've read the manual), rather than hurl insults about us being "cheap" and "petty".
Yabapmatt and agro are higly ranked witnesses here, if they don't know how this place works then I'm a little worried about the future of steem.
Just to clarify: I think they do know how this place works and have read the manual. I think they made a business decision to create 0SP accounts because it was cheaper for them. I could be wrong.
You got off easy, I was called being a "little bitch, chastised, and a post made for open public flogging of me. lol.
hahaha... yes I got to see the fangs exposed, but never got biten! I guess I should be happy :D
I guess they haven't figured out that to much ego tends to kill talent.
Agreed... And when the talent goes quietly... then the big egos say "I wonder what happened? Somebody should've told me" (lol)
Can you now update the post to reflect where and how you created the account. I get that it was an honest mistake and I know there is a lot of information out there.
This post is currently adding to the FUD.
It would be more factual to say people signing up via Steem Monsters might have this problem.
I am sure you are aware that various Apps might choice different ways to create and fund accounts, so blanket statements will be spreading misinformation.
I have updated the post. Please look at it and see if it meets your suggested level of disclosure. I am willing to do more edits if you feel them necessary. Thanks.
Looks great. :)
I will do so for sure, and get it done this evening! Thank you again for helping with some clarification. I have also contacted @steemmonsters witnesses too to get this resolved.
@ats-david that's true indeed and you state valid facts.. However, this is still a huge fail and I'll explain why.
You landed here from another site such as Google
You haven't heard of the steem blockchain before.
You find steem monsters appealing and purchase the starter set. You join the discord and start competing in the giveaway posts hoping you will earn some free cards
You are blocked after creating 3 comments for some epic card giveaways because you have 0sp after creating an account on steem monsters official website
Scratch head and abandon card's and steem account after a negative experience
Will our new accounts on kickstarter be created via the same method? Let's hope the bugs are ironed out before this
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right.
But at the same time, steemmonsters is a privately owned business. They should make things clearer on what you're getting for your money.
I don't think steem monsters Inc intentions are having accounts you can't use?
What's the point of that? If anything it's bringing new users to steem and good for steems ecosystem
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Depends on how you define use.
From what I've seen the costs for customer JSON opperations are very low (This is how steem monsters works) So it would be reasonable that a privately owned business only creates accounts that are capable of being readily used on their site. But if you want to do more with them then you'll have to actually buy some steem and power it up.
Assuming it has a few starters the first guide will be how to sell your first steemmonsters card to fund your account so you can use steemit and not play the game lol... Without a foundation of reasonable interaction no one will stick around.
It’s at this point that you should find answers to any questions and assistance with any issues. That’s the job of the game/interface owners to explain to their new users. It would be irresponsible of them to collect money for account creation and not explain the limitations of the accounts. If they are truly free accounts, they should still explain how the system works.
Regardless, it isn’t a problem with RCs.
Agreed and excellent points and information here.