Irrationality, Pseudoscience & Conspiracies - EM Radiation and 5G, Yikes!
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Nice article! I guess for the average person that doesn't have a basic understanding of energy than it can seem scary having all of these waves bouncing around!
I think one of the only things missing here is the basic idea of "ionizing radition" vs. "non-ionizing radition". (Ie., basically waves with enough energy to modify atoms and waves that just vibrate stuff - which can still cause burns, etc...).
Even still though, I don't think i'd like to live anywhere near those huge power transmission lines lol.
One more thing! The chart mentions that UV radiation doesn't penetrate the atmosphere... but quite a bit still makes it through and causes sunburns (and they will damage DNA)!
Yes, the UV-C Radiation is blocked by the atmosphere, but UV-B and UV-A Radiation as you said penetrate the atmosphere.
I noticed the chart was fuzzy around the edges as well. However I recall seeing that the chart won an award so someone liked it. I do know from reading sunscreen labels that uv-c isn't as much of a worry. I guess that's why.
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Interesting Topic. As you said EM radiation with a lower frequenz then infrared light can not damage our DNA because the energy of the photons is to low.
But EM Radiation with lower Frequenzy can penetrate our bodys deeper, so i think microwave radiation can penetrate your head skull. But the frequenz is definetly to low to damage DNA.
For example with infrared light you can not cause a sunburn and also your skin wouldnt get brown, because "Frequenz=Energy" is to low.
UV-A and UV-B radiation can damage our skin and DNA (UV-B more because higher frequenz=higher energy) (melanocytes gets "activated" through UV radiation, because our skin knows it needs to protect itself only against UV radiation)
Suncreams also use physical filters (lower the light frequenzy through scattering) and chemical filters who absorbe the uv radiation.
Great article
It seems you know a lot about this subject. I never really thought about how sunscreen worked.
Did you know aloe vera and sunscreen are classified at the same danger level as microwaves and sunscreen is proba ly worse because it encourages uv exposure.
In most cases em passing through people is harmless except in very high energies.
As far as I know microwaves cannot penetrate the body very far.
The ovens are good at heating water and lower eneries penetrate further. So at the 2.5ghz frequency which is the oven or 4g, a wave will go around 2 cm into your skin. This should be enough to penetrate all but the thickest skulls.
However 5g typically has 20 to 100 ghz and this penetrates 1mm to 0.3mm which will barely penetrate your skin.
The army actually designed a microwave weapon at around 90gh, but it isn't even that dangerous and was considered non lethal.
I just wouldn't want a concentrated powerful beam aimed at my eyes.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_burn
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LOL. What about mind control? I see enough zombies wandering about seemingly controlled by their 'smart phones' and 'data plans' 5g is only gonna make things worse.
3g made zombies, 4g made super zombies and 5g will made godly zombies.
I am already mind controlled though, that's why I dont run in terror from microwave radiation
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Thank you! What an informative and well written article on the subject of 5G! I am glad to have come across it since I know very little about these waves, but now I'm feeling much better about 5G :D
It's complicated, but from a physical point of view, it is basically the same as 4g.
Your only concern with 5g should be the costs and the network instability. Unless its built by Huawei, then you need to worry about communist spies from china trying to steal your thoughts and mind control you.
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Bravo for this! More people need to be debunking the conspiracy theorists instead of jumping on every single bandwagon that lumbers past on the road to nowhere. Kudos!
Yeah it always starts with something harmless like a superstition, then absolute mistrust of government then society and finally rejecting important science.
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Nice article. I think many are skeptical of science because they don't really understand how it works. Our schools in the US do a terrible of job of teaching this--mostly focusing on scientific theories and facts, not on the actual methods of science. Our daughters were even in a science magnet program, but that too was really just a veneer of science--it was too rushed to be anything else.
Consider, for example, when people who don't understand science hear that hormone replacement therapy (HRT) is great for certain women for a decade, then suddenly hear that it is not recommended because it increases the risk of heart attacks and breast cancer. With a near total understanding of science, it is easy to dismiss all scientists as quacks, or as people with some hidden (bad) agenda. What people don't realize is that science uses the best methods possible to get at the "truth" (in scare quotes to satisfy the philosophers), but that as evidence accumulates, our understanding changes. Yes, in fact, HRT is beneficial, but yes it does increase risk of certain diseases. What this means is that we must be more selective about who receives it--weighing the risks and benefits. One of the best short essays I've read to explain science to a non-scientist is Isaac Asimov's The relativity of wrong. It still doesn't get the scientific method across, but it does explain how science progressives, even though it is almost always "wrong".
I agree, science and math are poorly taught. Hollywood and media focus on evil and Nobel scientists which isn't realistic. Hopefully with the drive to get girls into STEM they will look at their methodology and revise it. Definitely needs to m9ve away from theory and science fair only model.
I'll have to check out that book, thanks!
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I finally got around to reading that. Asimov has always been a favorite writer of mine. That essay is short and to the point. I agree, things nowadays are less wrong. However, with each step progression slows down as the amount of knowledge required to take the next step increases. Fortunately, research and the amount of scientists is increasing.
They say we stand on the shoulders of giants, but nowadays most Nobel scientists work among giants and have giant research teams and giant budgets, too. Think of things like ITER and CERN these aren't basement projects.
There are definitely people in history who stand out, but I fear it is diminishing and I think computers, Internet and now more recently, AI are progressing things beyond what a single person is capable of doing.
STEM Tribe is so hard to me. Just doing curation here.
Great post for giving a new info.
Always welcoming curators! I think the issue with stem is the same as with leo, if they allowed a rating system like tasteem from 1 to 3 for difficulty level it would be good.
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The problem with 5G is not the danger that it may or may not pose to human health. We humans have a remarkable ability to adapt to our surroundings and so even if 5G is dangerous, it won't be for too long. However, 5G is indeed very dangerous in the sense that it will facilitate the rise of an unprecedented level of surveillance that is more than likely to be utilised towards abusive ends.
5G aside, the language that you use in this post is most interesting to me. You claim that one ought to be very, very sceptical. But go on to imply that this scepticism should be reserved for only specific facets of public information. You seem to think that it is wise to be sceptical in regards to mainstream media, but that one ought to take everything emanating from the scientific community as gospel. This is not a sceptical mind. It is a biased mind. If you believe that politics and science are separate from one another, and that only the former need be scrutinised with a sceptical eye, then perhaps you ought to consider that scientific researchers largely depend upon corporate and governmental agencies to source their funding, and consequently, the nature of modern science and the information shared by it is indeed political.
In short; a sceptical mind is sceptical all the time. If there is any source at all that you trust implicitly then you're not sceptical, you are biased, and open to manipulation of the mind. Also, it is unproductive and unbecoming to be ridiculing others for having a different opinion from you. If your goal is as you say it is, then perhaps you ought to speak to those you are attempting to change the minds of in a less condescending manner. In my experience, people are far more receptive to new ideas when they do not feel they are being insulted.
It's not often I offer unsolicited advice nowadays so I hope you're not offended by my choice to do so here today. It would be worth considering my words closely, I feel. Have a pleasant day.
I agree the issues with privacy violations are concerning and it may become worse with 5G. However, that is a different topic that has nothing to do with EM waves, it is just faster technology which already exists with fibre optics.
Governments and people who abuse privacy will continue to do so with or without 5G. North Korea has a 3G network and is miles ahead in terms of invading privacy than more technologically enabled despotic regimes.
I understand you have concerns that I am ok with political debate/conspiracy and not with science debate. Please carefully read the first few paragraphs of what I wrote.
I stand by my statement that science conspiracy is stupid. I mentioned in my post that I respect the scientific method, end of story.
To clarify what that means (there is always someone who needs explaining here) I am not skeptical of science that ignores the scientific method, I am simply saying it isn't science or a scientific debate.
When someone blatantly ignores the scientific method in their arguement (it's hard to call it research or experiment), pointing out flaws in their method (professionals call it peer review) is the first step. This isn't science, it is come back to debate science when you are prepared to debate science.
I also said scientific debates are usually best left to experts who know what they are talking about.
Skepticism in science is very different than in social science, politics or history. I am most certainly skeptical of bogusbscientific claims. There is a famous youtuber called thunderf00t that likes to call these people out.
Thank you for your comment and I hope you see the difference and understand I basically agree with you.
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Some waves are natural, others are created by humans.
I do wonder is they will have an influence on our health.
5g is definitely created by humans.
I don't see how the natural ones can be any better for you than the unnatural. The ones made by humans just have codified patterns machines can recognize.
The health risks are extremely rare and nothing to worry about. However, because it is invisible and seemingly powerful (it can transmit lots of data quickly), people worry.
You have a much higher chance of falling down the stairs yet people want these in their houses because they understand the causes and effects and see the benefits.
It's simply fear of the unknown.
5g tech will enable things that will save lives, especially for road safety and dangerous jobs with autonomous vehicles.
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People are saying 5G is bad? I hadn't heard that. So they're afraid of a few waves they can't see? Do they think it will cause brain cancer? This is weird.
They just want nore studied and don't seem concerned nothing will get done if we have to do a long term effects study for every minor change.
I remember a story where eople were protesting wifi routers at a school one month after they were protesting a cellphone ban at the same school. These devices emit the same EM waves.
People with common sense avoid these people.
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