Jerry Banfield sold his witness account and is now producing

in witness •  2 months ago

@jerrybanfield's witness is now enabled again and has been acquired (do not know the financial transactions involved) by @jrswab.

Update: I hear the split is 60/40 @jrswab/@jerrybanfield.

In the meantime, Jerry is devoting his time to bashing Steem and calling it a scam outside of the platform. He said himself in one of his videos he will only use Steem to push people to his other sites. He still has a lot of large votes from accounts like @freedom and @hendrikdegrote allowing him to maintain a #35 spot even though he has been disabled for months.

While I don't know anything about @jrswab, I have heard very good things about him and that he is a good dude. He is also a witness (#127 at the moment).

That being said, full disclosure is important so people know what they are voting for. They are voting for Jerry Banfield who is not, in fact, Jerry Banfield. Jerry Banfield is currently sabotaging the Steem name off the chain and using Steem as a sales funnel into his third-party properties.

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Whatever the split is, Jerry is benefiting. I will never support that witness, regardless of who is actually running it.

To me, it's a pretty sleazy deal to strike with Jerry. This jrswab may be a great guy with the best intentions, but this actually reflects very poorly on his judgement.

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I read elsewhere in the comments that @jrswab took the deal on the condition that Banfield stop slinging shit about Steem on other platforms. In that case maybe it's not the worst thing ever.

I still wouldn't vote Banfield, not in a million years, but... yeah. I'm just gonna reserve judgement.

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Yes this is the arrangement between Jerry and I. If he keeps bashing steem I'll turn off the witness. No one is asking you to vote for Jerry's witness. I understand why people don't want to and it alright with me.

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That is fair enough but wouldn't it just be easier to let the fucker not be a part of the group? He has already said and done the actions that hurt us. Why do you think the former person running his witness dropped him?

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@ats-david, no one is asking you to support Jerry's witness. I got into this fulling know some people would not be happy but how is this any different than privex hosting many witness servers or even someguy123 running servers for other people? Calling this deal sleezy you may as well call the others sleezy too.

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The others do not involve Jerry, Jerry is the variable here that is different. This move will also put any other project you work on in the shadow of being associated with him. Did you not just witness the Dlive trust issue? Working with Jerry is like being part of the Dlive team and posting on Steemit.

It is interesting this has happened because back on Sept 1st I made a video response to @jerrybanfield to reactivate his witness node.

Ultimately he wanted me to pay him $49 / month to be a partner on his website or some BS just to watch my video. Well of course he had already watched the video because who doesn't watch a video addressed directly to them when his own videos are only getting a few hundred views typically.

The sad this is doing something like this is the only way to potential get into a position of profitability as a witness on this chain.

It is actually one of the most frustrating things to me that I can't run a witness node on this blockchain. There is no point in losing money on it here so I have to focus on other chains.

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You can run a witness on this blockchain just like anyone else can. Doesn’t mean you are entitled to a top 20 spot or any other spot unless you get the votes for it.

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Nah...... no thanks. I don't like being unprofitable. I'm running a witness on another chain. In 2+ years I was never popular enough here to consider wasting my time and money.

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Message me on discord. I am happy to take a loss to be part of a witness node. There is much work to be done and doing things for the community has gotten a few in the top 20. Not everyone in the top twenty has to be a sleazeball.

So tell me your vision of Steemit on discord and I may be willing to foot the bill for service.

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can I do this too @erodedthoughts, you don't even need to foot the bill. I am interested in setting up a witness, would like to start having these conversations.

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This offer is open to anyone if their thoughts and ideas of what Steemit is are in line with my own.

erodedthoughts#6809

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Thanks for your enthusiasm but me reaching out to Jerry was my last attempt at trying to get anything done on this chain. It ends up being a time waster. I have been here since July of 2016 and have seen problem after problem. In general the witnesses in power here don't really care about what I have to say. Personally I think most of us are better off focusing on EOS at this point.

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You make no sense. It has taken 20 HF and a few years to try and fix Steemit and you jump ship to Dan's new broken item which he will walk away from as soon as the problems start like he does with every project?

Have fun spending the next 5 years trying to fix EOS.

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I'm not jumping ship to anywhere. I'm saying that it likely doesn't make sense to run a Witness node on this chain because those in power will seek to remain in power. With the amount of ram required you can easily spend $160 / month running it and if you want to be in the top 20 it would make sense to try to run a seed node also to convince people of power to possibly vote for you. So factor in $320 / month. Well a few months of doing that and trying to campaign to the God kings it will get old real fast.

Every project has it's issues including EOS. EOS is an open slate with 0.5s block times and is already cranking up the transactions.

Anyone can take the EOSIO software and build their own product on it. STEEM as well is open source so people can take the code base and expand on it.

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I see our thoughts on being a witness are 100% different. I am in no need of the money so I don't care of the cost and want to make a community upvoter with what the witness makes. It should be a zero profit job if truly done for the good of the community, just as users should not self-vote in my opinion.

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"because those in power will seek to remain in power." ??? You mean Steemit is NOT decentralized? Oh, that's news! 🙄

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EOS is shit

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Wtf! Man... ugh i hate greasy people.

My buddy told me a long time ago that Jerry worked for a company at one time and had access to the companies money. He used it to invest in the crypto space and apparently he lost the companies money. I couldn't verify if this is true or not.

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Not sure how accurate it is but here is the Jerry Banfield linkedin page.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrybanfield/

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Hmmm not much there it didn't seem. Maybe someone else knows how to deep dive a supposed ex IRS workers criminal records.😄

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Didn't he work for the IRS?

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I don't know the guy and never followed his content. My friend knew about him before he got on Steem. When I tried to search for content on him I didn't come up with anything back when he first joined Steem.

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Someone I know looked him up on LinkedIn. He was something between a failed mall cop and a government worker. I think it was IRS but it could've been those census takers.

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Well here is his biography.
https://jerrybanfield.com/biography/

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He wrote a war and peace sized novel about himself.

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Personally I don't think it was long enough. Lol

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He was a police officer for a bit.

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I can confirm this. I just found his biography for what it's worth. I scrolled through a large portion trying to find what I mentioned but it's extremely long.
https://jerrybanfield.com/biography/

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I bet that was fascinating - did he talk about his hobby of sucking his own dick? (really, I'm not kidding here, he did a video about it)

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Maybe I didn't get to that part. Lol

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He was a cop? Holy shit talk about life imitating comedy.


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Hey! I like that show! Lol

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AH :))))) Nooooo

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My buddy told me a long time ago that Jerry worked for a company at one time and had access to the companies money. He used it to invest in the crypto space and apparently he lost the companies money. I couldn't verify if this is true or not.

@pwny
Apparently this "Jerry Banfield" is not the most popular guy on the block anymore, but maybe we should stick to firsthand info? (makes us who are "pro-steemit" look like we have the "moral high ground" etc etc)... =)

/FF

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Yeah I do not know him personally. He has since given his account away and now someone else is running it for him which is strange. I'm not trying to do a deep dive on him just dropping my 2 cents.

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Well, lets hope things don't get any worse.

I sometimes thought this Jerry Banfield looked a bit like an advanced cgi computer animation or something, and his "bidding-bot" was not always very profitable...

Other then that I know nothing about the guy, I think it was in one of his videos on youtube (amongst other random videos and blogs) it was at least one of the first times I heard about steem/steemit and how you could mine crypto by blogging here (from Jerry Banfield... But I could remember wrong, it happens)...

/FF

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Some of the comments on this post say jrswab (who took over the account) is a good guy. I dont use bid bots anymore. Only a curation trail. If I was going to use a bid bot I would use @crypto&custard or steemsmart.

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Okay, yeah I saw that, just checking the video where Jerry Banfield is concluding how much money he made on steemit, he is not really slandering steemit or anything so far in the video, he is just saying he is grateful, but is now leaving, etc etc, he looks like someone who has gotten sick of a job and is leaving because he is fed up... But I have to watch the whole video... Okay, now he is kind of being openly critical, but its in his right, he just dosen't like crypto anymore...

About bidding bots:
I tried sneaky-ninja on my last post and got a result that probably will lead to a decent ROI, but other then that there is not that many bots that have worked very well, (unfortunately delivered a very low ROI or a negative result)...

/FF

This was the video I was watching:

I've always thought he was greedy. Coz it looked like he did not care if Steemit crashes and burns as long as he had profits from his bot. He thought highly of himself, it appears to me. Just my opinion. I actually do not like people who bite the hands that fed them, that's not classy.

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Saklap.naman nyan sis

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Thanks for the info @markymark , I was not aware of the bashing of Steem from Jerry, maybe the cross of Steem Og with Pineapple Chunk should not be named after him, even though im sure it's going to make you more flexible after you smoke it, ;)

It's all a bunch of bullshit with all these fucking fraudulent accounts running around here, they all make me want to throw up!

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I believe you're right😁

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Well I never had too many dealings with Jerry but I have had many with @jrswab and can say I trust him fully. I support him as a witness and will trust his judgment. I do know Jerry brought a ton of traffic here and the consensus is he did this under false pretense. I trust that JR won't be playing games like this and appreciate his bold move to make positive changes to this platform, we need more people doing this in my opinion. Do what it takes to make this platform prosper is a small business move. you got my vote JR...now moving forward.

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Yeah, JR is a great developer and has done a lot to make Steem and DTube better.

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yes he is, and a really cool guy. Always available to help and answer questions on discord and really humble....all traits I respect

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Thank you for the kind words. My door is always open in any wants to have a conversation.

Seems evident that the big inactive accounts just dont care about steem. Otherwise why keep your vote for a guy like jerry instead of changing the vote.

ahahahaha lol

Let's get stinc, et al, to give him another 1m sp delegation so we can all give more money to him involuntarily,...

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The price you pay for being a straight shooter. Still have my vote, but I have less SP.

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Well, that's accommodating!

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I saw it coming.

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Too bad I can't get some !popcorn, to be honest, I wouldn't care if it made me witness #1 I would not place my name with Jerry's.

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This is the clown i was talking about in my video on my #steemstory it's how i found out about steem. His loud annoying voice woke me, so i Found another video with a more palatable voice. This dude is greasy. Just saying. Im from Florida and I know hes.... ya... nuff said. Isn't there a way to get him out? No huh... well i had like 28 votes the other day and i didnt, Repeat did not vote for him.

The beauty of DPoS is the freedom of transacting don't you agree? You have the freedom to use your curation ai bots, we have freedom to vote for JR/Jerry witness team. JR adds real world investment value to this chain by helping to enable evergreen. Just my opinion though.

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The only thing we have to do is die, everything else is optional.

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Love that point of view Marky. The circle of life . Have a great day today.

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They say death and taxes but even taxes are optional, the consequences are a different story.

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Even taxes?!

runs to get my money back

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See my reply below, yes even taxes.

They say death and taxes but even taxes are optional, the consequences are a different story.

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it's legal to avoid, but illegal to evade.

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doesn't mean it isn't optional.

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its definitely is not optional as far as the Irs is concerned. I would rather evade death.

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Sure it is, but the consequences are not.

This is why we need to implement witness voting cooldowns like eos has, so votes lose their weight and need to be revoted to regain full strength. Otherwise the 3 year old votes mean the same as new ones.

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Very nice idea, it will make the votes more fair. A lot of people vote here for a witness once and they forget to vote for others or to update.

Got a link to where Jerry is bashing Steem? If so I hope it's not because a lot of people downvoted his really bad idea for Steem that demonstrated a gross misunderstanding of it and cryptocurrency in general.

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I'll have to dig, it's in his YouTube videos and I got to prepare myself before watching, but I did watch one not too long ago where he said he will spend his time telling people Steem is a scam and use it to funnel users. Give me a few minutes.

UPDATE: I believe this was the video I don't watch his stuff in general. I just watch some of the Steem ones and hear from others.

I would actually rather be fucked by a monkey than to do business with Jerry. And I'm allergic.

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how did you learn about the allergies ?

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I used to hang out with Harambe.

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now we know what really killed harambe !!

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He sure was devastated when he received the news about my allergies...

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He did end up having a bit of lead poisoning ....so sad !!

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You beat me!!! I’ve missed it so much ❤️

Please, if you are still voting for that witness, remove your vote. Don't support him.

very good things about him and that he is a good dude.

Buying his way into a witness position is not really what I would call a "good dude move"

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Just specifying what I have heard in the past. I firmly don't agree with this action what so ever and why I put my neck out making this post.

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I bought nothing why don't you tell that to anyone paying for witness votes, @howo? Cause that's a thing that people do.

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That's a thing Jerry did to get to top 20, the witness you now run.

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How many of those votes are still around? Probably none, but I see your point.

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Are you sure? He's #35 and still has @freedom/@pumpkin vote. As well as many other large ones.
He wouldn't be #35 otherwise.

But to me, Jerry is a scammer and having his name up in the witness ranks is bad for Steem. Especially since he is actively slandering Steem off the chain.

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I'm sure he was not the only one that bought votes. But you can be sure that is not going to happen as long as I have control. If he does I'll shut it down.

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You already have the benefit of those bought votes, regardless I will not stand by while Jerry Banfield's name climbs the witness ranks again while off chain he is slandering Steem. He has said himself "I have been banned by almost every website I have been active in" and has proven himself to be shady time and time again.

That fact you are ok with that for around 400 Steem/month is disturbing.

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Well if @jrswab is running the witness account @jerrybanfield by default @jrswab is supporting whatever the @jerrybanfield account posts to the chain, right? Like proxy posting by default?

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The fact that he was not the only one doesn't make it right anyways.

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I agree that it does not make it right but the votes still happened and at least he was honest enough to talk about it.

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Well you basically run the witness and give 60% of your earnings (or is it the other way around ? I don't care). To jerry, that's a cut of your earnings. That's a cut of your earnings that you pay to him for that witness. So yes, you bought and are still buying your way in that position.

So you get 400 steem a month to run his witness, promoting his name and basically give him free money.

Money that he is using to directly harm the network by advocating against it.

If you're ok with all of this and continue. Then you're the worst kind of witness that's in it just for the short term gains.

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Money that he is using to directly harm the network by advocating against it.

you seem to have missed a stipulation between he and I.

If you're ok with all of this and continue. Then you're the worst kind of witness that's in it just for the short term gains.

haha Yeah, I'm only a witness for the short term gain when I have been witnessing for this platform at a loss for the past six months.

Yeah, you really know me and my dedication to this platform...

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you seem to have missed a stipulation between he and I.

Make it a post he comments on and confirms stipulation. In the interest of both transparency and accountability. He also proxies his witness vote through you, which is probably a positive since it should/could remove mutual ‘paid for’ witness votes he may have benefitted previously.

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He also proxies his witness vote through you ... it should/could remove mutual ‘paid for’ witness votes

Yes he does and has for a while now. I tend to vote for witnesses below or around me (spot 127 or so) it encourage them to keep adding more decentralization to our platform.

This is why I love Steem. The incentive this system producing is enough to motivate all kind of tricks and creativity just to grab some of it.

Christ. the last thing I needed to think about was Jerry doing the splits!

your profile like james bond

Indeed it had lighten up a few questions about him. I mean he is quite popular cuz there are so many who follows him. And he really is goo with his words, he knows how to get people's attention especially watching all tje videos he had done for steem.

Im glad to know this update! Thank you for sharing!

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Once who use to be a steem marketier is now a point of talk all over steem....wrong dude or cool dude...he made his post on trending psge quite often using bots or many known user supporting him

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If witnesses are inactive for a certain time, all votes should be removed from it.

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I've always felt a 5% decay a day, and when it is back up it recovers 5% of the vote weight/day. Witnesses are completely disabled from the rotation after 24 hours of missed blocks. It's more of a penalty for poor performance than anything.

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Maybe we should do a hardfork and implement that....

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no more hard fork please. lol

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Decaying witness votes need to happen ASAP. The problem is, how do you get a supermajority of people that benefit from witness votes not decaying to agree to implement that?

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if decaying witness votes means what i think (that they become worthless after a time unless revoted?) I am all for this. there are too many top witnesses coasting on what are inactive accounts and ancient votes, yet they don't seem to do much work or hire other people to do work for them. I've started unvoting witnesses who are not visible and active.

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You can't. It's a shitty system to try to overcome. Very poor design, in my opinion.

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This!

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At Steem, SP can be rented, votes can be sold. Therefore it's nature to sell witness accounts or witness votings. The big whales' witness votings can sell a lot of money. As I understand the huge whales can do whatever they want.
Even an orca with connections have lots of privileges. For example a well connected orca spammed the blockchain with 300 comments each day. The admin of steemcleaners refuse to admit it's spamming. Now both the admin and the spammer are witnesses. Nobody cares.

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For the record he did not sell his account he is just paying me to run it.

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Understand. I just say that I won't surprised if anybody sells witness account or witness voting. Now Steem is just a market.

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oh, my apologies. Thanks for clarifying.

I gave you a vote! If you follow me, I will follow you back!

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You're wasting your resource credits with this spam!

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oh no! what's jerry gonna do now? I suppose it couldn't have lasted forever.

All I can say is that I would vote for @jrswab... not so sure about doing so via jerry banfields abandoned witness account

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I am not going to beg people to vote for Jerry's account. He wanted to earn steem passively to help pay bills so I told him I'd run his server as long as he stops talking bad about steem. Feel free to message me on discord with questions.

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this sounds like a fair deal to me. there is nothing wrong with Jerry speaking in a positive way now, and bring new users under proper pretenses. let JR answer the questions on what to expect as new steemians and leave jerry out of it.

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does he still asking for 23 steem per month to be his partner ? lol

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you should ask him....if you had made as much money as him that 23 steem a month investment would have been pretty good...yea? I hope to keep this platform moving forward and not backward....I have dealt with a lot of history and bs on discord regarding mistakes made and lessons learned and have had my fair share as well....I hope to learn from them and tend to surround myself with people who stay in the moment. What is going to be the best for this platform is the question on my mind. Let's open up that discussion,,,yea?

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The best thing to do is for everyone to take care about the community but not about himself and use steem only for his interest.

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I just look at what I do to benefit the platform, there is not enough time in this life to deal with the things that people have done wrong. I have done things just for the benefit of me on this platform and for someone to waste their time wondering why I did this is not my style
the question is where I am at right now, am I don't for the community or down for myself? this has changed day to day since I got here almost a year ago and it's a question for me to ask myself and not for me to answer to anyone else really. Sure I could take my valuable time and find the faults of others but I would rather spend my time helping people see the long term possibilities...this is my preference. Lots of edginess lately and I am sold on @jrswab 100% because I know what he is capable of, and his head is in the right place, he is taking on a huge job right now and going against the grain for the good of the platform. He has my support cause I trust him.

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If he gave you the master keys and you became 100% owner of the account and witness it'd be a whole different ballgame than him just paying you to run it and still pocketing the block rewards. I get why, we all have bills. The greatest issue here is he's still the owner and the witness is fully under his control. He can bite down on his dick extra hard one day, get pissed, shut you out and then what? No one doubts your competence but everyone doubts his sanity.

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became 100% owner of the account and witness it'd be a whole different ballgame

some people thought this wast the case and have a problem with it.

shut you out and then what?

So he changes his keys and starts up his server elsewhere? Then it would just by as if he turned it back on himself. He has no access to the server and all he can do is either stiff me on the STEEM or change his keys.

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Why are you trusting him not to stiff you? All in all, the point to all this drama is he is back in the witness game. Whether you're running it or not has nothing to do with it since it's his account. If you shut down the server he'll just hire another dev. Doubt he ran it himself originally in the first place. You being honest about it and announcing it just served yourself a plate of shit for no reason.

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I'd rather be honest and receive all this trash talk than to try and hide it just to save face. I believe witnesses need to be transparent no matter what the cost.

I wish all the best to the people tossing mud at me for my choice. They are allowed to have an opinion as well as the rest of us.

I would hazard a guess that he is slandering steemit due to being disowned by the community after he made that video about sucking his own dick for many years - his own embarrassment is what is biting into his own conscience.

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I knew he selfvoted a lot... The auto fellatio is new to me... A bit flabbergasted that someone would admit that in a vlog.
But self voting and sucking your own dick is kind of like the same thing... Not?

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Yeah, it's the same fucking thing.

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The vlog went on for around 30 minutes, apparently he once did his back in doing his self service, he said that in the video also, It was disturbing to say the least, and within a few days he shut down his witness server, I would guess due to pressure from sane people.

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Well, the dude is apparently quite unstable, to say the least. First promoting Steem like a mad man, and now tearing it down to pieces... Nutcase it you ask me!

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I couldn't agree more with you on this, @pele23. There is something about the fellow from the begining that didn't really seem right. So he never got my witness vote.

@maryfavour.

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Agreed.

@jrswab sounds good if it shuts jerry up!
Witness info?

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For my witness you can find the info at https://jrswab.cloud
For Jerry's you can find it at https://jrswab.cloud/jerry.php

#127 at the moment

What utility/command do you use to find witnesses outside top 100?

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You can use https://steemian.info/witnesses it will report the top 400.

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Props to @drakos for making that page ... Thanks for the info marky.

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things like this... force me to wonder about votes decay feature...

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I agree, but I think decay would cause more harm than good. Especially if it is 3 months like most people have suggested.

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Can you elaborate why?

Also.. I think it would be interesting if a user would have a possibility to chose how quick his votes is canceled if not prolonged.

For sure I would be more motivated to do great job if I would know, that if I will not give someone another proove that I perform well as a witness, vote will be canceled automatically after some time.

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If votes decayed, Steemit would become a playground for non-stop vote begging and campaigning. It will increase aggressive behavior between witnesses similar to government elections. WItnesses will focus less on doing good for the blockchain and community and focus on maintaining their position.

Will also cause trusted witnesses to lose rank if people forget to renew them, eliminating the power of your vote.

It is tough enough to get users to vote for witnesses, this would increase the difficulty and amount of work users have to do.

Some will counter this by creating automation to ensure their votes are enforced.

I don't think it will work any better than what we have now and will, in fact, make things worse.

This is so unfortunate.

An individual like JB and his deeds kept alive in the Steem ecosystem, while his name is promoted, his other ventures are promoted, and he gets his cut. All while he slanders Steem name, obviously.

I think the only better combination would be if he makes it to Top 20 (he nearly made it as himself the previous time). That would be something, wouldn't it? Way to go, JB! What else can I say, right? I feel like a fool in this play.

thanks for the PSA... the past days should have shown to everyone that witnesses need to be engaged in the platform beyond raking in profits and nodding anything through...

though I never understood why anyone would ever have vote for this literal cock-sucker

!popcorn

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