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RE: People claim to not like bullies... until they show up with a bag of candy.

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The consolidation of power is most definitely a problem, this topic will be the thing that either makes or breaks steemit. The people here want a decentralized platform. They want a place where they can express themselves, and not worry about reprisal. I'm sure there are many people that have left Steemit cause they have been flagged into oblivion, and not for spam, plagiarism, ect.. There are people on this platform that do not create content, but find ways to game the system as much as they can. Those people will end up screwing this platform completely up. I want to tell you about what I found but I don't want to broad cast it on this comment. You seem like a person that might be able to help fix a very big potential problem. It is insane the amount of power some of the people have on this platform, and I don't know how to decentralize this power. The one or the group with the most money invested in this platform wins, kind of like life itself. I want to keep doing steemit, but if you piss off the wrong person you are done for! I am not free to say what I want, this is the example. If I told you right now what I have found, and that person reads this comment then they would prob shut me down for good. I don't want to be shut down I want to keep doing this, so I have to keep my mouth shut. THAT IS CENSORSHIP! THX for the post.

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I posted a proposal how to make steem grow. I need to get the message out https://steemit.com/steemit/@emble/will-steem-succeed-or-commit-suicide

People think it's consolidation. There is nothing wrong with consolidation, that's also how reputation works. But a bunch of the bullies started out with so much more money to buy candy and spitballs with, that to describe it as 'god mode' would be quite an understatement.

My candy reference is that Randowhale is essentially buying a lottery ticket. Yet it is like buying a lottery ticket from the Mafia or a Dictator. How much is your soul worth? So they may not LIKE these people or their activities, but they'll gladly buy their products which gives them huge power.

Tapping into greed is a lucrative business, and they are SMART in that sense. It isn't good for steem, but it is good for them. People need to stop taking candy from them.

They are learning but somebody needs to take steem away from these pigs first. Then they can play chess with each other, or, you know, like BS likes to say 'get a real job'.

LOL, good point.

With the exception of when a small group of whales was downvoting posts because they had some other whales upvoting them over a certain amount... or whatever their reason was for their 'experiment', I have rarely seen large stakeholders downvoting maliciously.

Even that is a stretch to call that malicious because the whales intent was to try to distribute the reward pool more.. it just had the unintended consequences of hitting some people who had rarely had a good potential payout and they lost some or all of it.

I have seen them take down some nasty, lying scammers which is a public service.

I can think of one person who was being regularly downvoted and some behind the scenes discussion ended that. The person being downvoted wasn't a bad dude.. just the two didn't know each other and had a misunderstanding. Crap like that happens.

As long as you behave like a reasonable person, respect others and don't try to scam, you can pretty much post what you want.

I think most of the activity of the other kind was many months ago now. I do think it is improving.

Perhaps I spoke too soon. :) Though I've been waiting to be down vote dogpiled. I finally had it happen.

I don't recognize the names that downvoted you.. who they heck are they and what is their problem?

A down vote trail... bot action. I'll provide more info in the future.

I want to keep doing steemit, but if you piss off the wrong person you are done for! I am not free to say what I want, this is the example. If I told you right now what I have found, and that person reads this comment then they would prob shut me down for good.

I just avoid naming specific people when reporting information. If I am going to name a person I try to only state the facts and avoid just writing my opinion. I also try not to call them a jerk or otherwise ad hominem attack them.

I've found they don't usually down vote someone to oblivion if that person didn't actually ATTACK them. If you give them nothing to latch onto other than facts which you are not stating opinions about, then really they don't generally flag someone to oblivion.

This has been my observation. So it is all in how you go about doing it.

@ats-david did some investigative reports long ago, and not only is he still around he is thriving. @bacchist did some investigative posts long ago and he is still around. @klye did some investigative posts and not only is he still around both he and bacchist are witnesses.

I called out berniesanders on one of my posts but I didn't bash him. I just did like an information dump. He didn't attack me. He had some verbal comments, but I was careful not to take the bait and resort to name calling or ad hominem attacks. He didn't flag me, when I've seen him flag other people into oblivion.

The key is can you show that you are doing it because you care about the community without turning it into a finger pointing rant?

OK very good advice, and ya I have facts but still it is prob not a good idea to post about it anyway. I might not understanding everything I have found out as well, I don't want to be one of those guys that post something and it not what I think it is. I just have a feeling that Steemit will be like the real world, when it comes to making money and business. Corrupt! Human nature, there is nothing we can do about that. I will just keep my head down, and try to make content that is honest and kind. Thank you by the way for replying, I really enjoy how throw you are.

You can email me the info if you want to dwinblood @ gmail.com

I am looking into some of this as well. They thought I was butt hurt and came after this post with a big horde of down vote bots and accounts that down voted all at the same time. Mining those accounts for information has revealed an interesting web. I will turn that information into some hopefully nice investigative reporting, so if you don't want to say anything but have information feel free to email it to me if you want.

Yes that is what I am talking about, it is web of crazy stuff I will email you what I have found.

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