@tipU STEEM Power Delegation Profitability Check: 11.11.2018

in #steemit5 years ago (edited)
Hi guys, it's time to do the weekly @tipU profitability check. We'll see how profitable it was to delegate STEEM power to @tipu and how it compares to other services.

We'll be using https://www.steemprofit.info to check payouts from various steem services. We're looking for the highest APR which indicates highest payouts.


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The data for last 24 days indicate that @tipU is the highest paying service among the listed ones - neat :) Cheers!
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Greetings, @tipu

Honestly, with that low payback you're giving, I imagine you're driving some buyers away from voting. I think if you increase the ROI to 15%, it would attract a lot of people to buy votes and the return to investors would be much higher !!

It doesn't work that way :) @tipU is not a bidding bot. If vote buyers do not request votes, @tipU just accumulates more voting power so it can use it later on. There was no situation when @tipU voting power would reach 100% (that would mean loosing potential profit).

The APR is lower because:

  • STEEM price went down
  • reward pool went down - after the HF20 there was a time when nobody was voting which made everyone's vote much higher value. This meant that @tipU could generate more profit daily. But now we're back to the usual business and the APR is mainly dependent on STEEM price (in case for @tipu at least).

Yeah, why does steem price impact apr? Don't we get paid in steem... Oh, but people pay for 1sbd of vote, and it takes more vp... No, but then they pay more steem for that... Is it because SBD is lower? But then it takes less...

Yeah, no, why does the price of steem matter? Or is apr calculated for dollars?

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Vote value depends on STEEM price. If @tipU vote value = $ 10 it can make a total of $100 of votes each day, if vote @tipu vote value is $20 - it can make $200 of vote value daily, which means twice the profit is SBD stays at $1 (although users can also pay in STEEM).

So you calculate apr in USD, then. I mean it's not that I'll get 17% more steem over the course of the year, if today were the average day, it's that I'd get 17% more SBD.

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Its calculated in STEEM in fact :)

Then I guess I still don't understand. What's the underlying math? If steem is down, shouldn't that be irrelevant, since you'd get the same amount of steem, it's just worth less... right?

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But vote payers also pay in SBD. Less vote value -> less SBD received for upvoting -> lower APR

You can check the steemprofit.info website for the description.
In simple terms: APR = (STEEM + SBD) * 100% * 365
SBD is changed to the value in STEEM.

So you calculate apr in USD, then. I mean it's not that I'll get 17% more steem over the course of the year, if today were the average day, it's that I'd get 17% more SBD.

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Are we looking at the same image?

its low, because @tipy usually pay more than 20%

Does steem price affect it? not sure really, and I only use tip you to tip , I give them money they give that money to people. Not sure about using it for voting can't get my head around why that is better than just sending the people sbd.

isn't better- tip away :P
Voting is just promo

Not tip away? tip then they go away. tipaway

tip them off ;)

!gifbot just the tip *edit I give up

See I can totally do it @cardboard :) !tip

Hm, something went wrong with the comment, but I think I`ve managed to send the tip ;)

Try it again it said. :) !tip

Hm, something went wrong with the comment, but I think I`ve managed to send the tip ;)

like this: !tip

haha , I was too lazy to go make a deposit think I am low. But I shall do that ;)

!== "" leave the link and just comment already ;0 !tip

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Really wish that was the case but not how it works :(
Mathematically Tipu would actually lose money and as such lose delegation which mean less power which less use which mean less curation rewards for tipu to operate and for sellers...

I'm not sure what anyone is complaining about. As of now, @tipu produces the highest returns, as it has been doing for a long time. The rate is lower than in the past due to forces beyond @tipu's control. This is long familiar from market economies. Prices change due to changes in supply and demand that are beyond any one individual's control, but, instead, result from the actions of many, if not billions of individuals.

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Does @tipu give Up-Votes on Comments...??? Or do all your Up-Votes have to be Paid for in Advance...???

This comment is supported by $0.12 @tipU upvote funded by @cardboard :)
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You can upvote a comment by replaying to it with this command: !tipuvote 0.1 (or any other amount). But you need to have deposit firts :)

Just put 100 sp delegation on you! Excited to see more! And now my vote isn't much but it's going to grow faster!

today's profitability was extremely low. half of that from yesterday. is that normal?

Yes, especially for the weekend + falling STEEM price which lowers the demand for upvotes (for all voting services).

Don't worry, now @tipu has additional voting power to use which will increase profitability for the next days.

Sent 65 STEEM yet got neither a vote nor a refund. It's been almost an hour.

Error in different functionality (sending tips) stopped the bot (safety switch), bug fixed, refunding. Please use it again or save for next time :)

Tipu is currently not profitable like we can’t even get roi of our invested bid

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You can, just go to @tipu profile page - currently the upvote return is 103% which means guaranteed ROI at 3% (of course after curation).

@tipu profit for 300 SP

Yesterday 300.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.056 SBD + 0.046 STEEM (0.08 USD), APR: 16.48% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 300.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

@tipu profit for 100 SP

Yesterday 100.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.022 SBD + 0.03 STEEM (0.04 USD), APR: 21.83% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 100.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that the listed APR is calculated for profit generated between 00:00 yesterday and 00:00 today - your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

i want to delegate 1000 steem to @tipu

Hi @euporie! Special squad of highly trained hamsters prepared this delegation link for you:
steemconnect 1000.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Hi @euporie! Here is your @tipU service user data:

  • delegation status: 900.0 STEEM POWER delegated
  • deposit status: 0 STEEM and 0 SBD -> 0 STEEM POWER invested
  • pending payout: 0.051 SBD + 0.095 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 16.2 hours
  • total @tipU STEEM POWER: 1141674 | Your share: 0.0788% | Your reinvest ratio: 0%
  • Your payouts are send in both STEEM and SBD every 24 hours
  • voting status: active, profit will be increased with each vote :)
  • profitability: 0.195 SBD + 0.201 STEEM (0.34 USD) per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR: 16.91% (data from 00:00 yesterday to 00:00 today)

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