You are not entitled to an audience, you need to earn it!

in steemit •  last year

I came across a post today that hit a nerve, as it is a common theme with Steemit. I was reading on another forum that linked to a Steemit post regarding self-promotion in random threads.

M. @transisto does not want me to save the planet on Steemit.

I'm not going to post the entire thing here, but @chrisaiki runs a charity(?) for solar energy which is tied to a Bitshares UIA. The idea is you buy his asset and he will build solar power and you can cash out in some future on the profits from selling the energy to utility companies.

@chrisaiki started to drop five comments a day on random posts promoting his program and upvoting them. Some people saw this and took offense to it and downvoted it.

In response, @chrisaiki posted

This is the illusion among many people new to Steemit, or any social network for that matter. You are not entitled to an audience, and upvote, or even a viewer. You earn this privilege by engaging, providing value, or just being present in the conversation.

Just going around dropping random comments where you feel like it because you believe your cause is worthy is no different than me walking into your living room while you are watching Game of Thrones to tell you my son needs heart surgery and we could really use the money to save his life. It's no different than me sending you an email to buy Viagra because you may or may not be a guy that needs it and you happen to be on the Internet.

This is also a message to everyone new on Steemit, you don't deserve anything here or anywhere in life until you earn it.

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Well said @themarkymark, we all start at the bottom here and work our way up the chain through networking, conversation, and community building projects.

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we all start at the bottom here

Well, some inject millions into their accounts and have their first post plastered on top of the trending section. I won't mention a certain c4v3 tr011

And others try to cheat their way up through bots like Utopian, abusing certain efforts by others to get their own undeserved boosts.

I really despise those who reply to a top comment with irrelevant stuff just for attention and its 100% okay to flag those in my opinion.

Self-voting a comment up for the same effect onto others posts is pretty much the same.

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I personally don't mind self-upvoting as long as the comments have value. At the end of the day what maters is the quality. I do hate irrelevant comments and repeated spamming. I was really sick of it and after writing an entire post about it, I was checking my own tags and stumbled upon this. Glad to see you guys doing your best to preserve the quality of steemit.

Thank you and good luck!

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I personally don't mind self-upvoting

Hmmm, I'm personally unsure about this. I do sometimes self-vote my comment to the top when I see there's 60 more people and I really really have something to say to an author that I know doesn't read every single comment on their thread.

But I've seen some who arrive 8 hours later and just post a few marketing quotes and boop, attention boost.

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I do sometimes self-vote my comment to the top when I see there's 60 more people and I really really have something to say to an author

This is the reason I said I don't mind. Almost anything can be used for good or bad. Bitcoin/Monero does fund assassinations and other crimes. But they can also be used as tools to empower people. It's about the way you use them.

This post is certainly not new but it is gold. Not only on steemit, this applies to all platforms! So many people feel that they are entitled and everybody in this world MUST help them. Don't know where they got that mentality and they are the ones bringing up the future generation too!
Scary world...

i am trying to my best to earn it @themarkymark

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Well said. That seems to be the problem with today's tooth.. a sense of entitlement.. drives me crazy.. especially since I work so hard for what I got

I was mad, about not getting attention for my posts, until i read this post, you're absolutely wright! It is I who needs to work harder.

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No it has nothing to do with working harder. Just keep going at the same pace youre going now.

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I meant it was my fault for not reaching out to the people, for expecting that it's enough to post content, and people will automatically, not necessarily like it, but get engaged in it.

100% agreed and you couldnt have said it any better. Just like any other social network platform, noone owes us a view, comment, or like. Just think there could be thousands of people who see this post and not even comment or upvote it. Imagine how many great posts we go through per DAY. Not liking or not commenting doesnt mean the post is worthless. Alot of STEEMIANS need to know that and get down off their makeshift soapbox.

no different than me walking into your living room while you are watching Game of Thrones to tell you my son needs heart surgery and we could really use the money to save his life.

Wait, that's not the "standard operating procedure" these days?

I agree. I can accept relevant comments that say 'by the way, you may be interested in what I'm doing', but just spamming the system will get you flagged. Up voting your own comments is a little arrogant. It's up to the community to decide what behaviour is acceptable

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I did not upvote my comment for more than a year, then I realized than I did not used all of my upvotes and I though that those upvotes could be better used to produce renewable energy. I also realized that many whales are upvoting there own comments. By the way, you may be interested in what I am doing.

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I gave up on upvoting myself a while back. I'd rather support others. Just because whales do it doesn't mean we should. I do support renewables, but I've not looked into your project yet.

" no different than me walking into your living room while you are watching Game of Thrones to tell you my son needs heart surgery and we could really use the money to save his life. " I thought that a 5 lines comment with a ugly logo was a little bit less intrusive. I underestimate how many solicitations whales are receiving.

Don’t shout the messenger.

In 2004, I have studied the Peak Oil problem and I decided to work to promote solar energy. I built a photovoltaic car shelter for the French Institute of Solar energy in 2010.
I experimented how difficult it is to raise money to invest in solar energy.
In 2014, I have discovered Solarcoin and I though that crypto could be a way to do it.
Last year I discovered Steemit and I published many post about solar energy, the economy and the unemployment.
In may 2017 I created the @solarcoach account, which is devoted to solar energy promotion and investment.
I joined VIVAcoin and as a TQ holder, @tradeqwik upvotes all of my posts.
Last August, I created TOPSOL , a bitshares user asset to invest in solar energy.
Last week I discovered @treeplanter project and I get inspired for a new way of communication for @solarcoach.
Marketing is not my best competency and if anyone of you with better competency wants to help me to promote solar energy with better, smarter, more adapted means, you are welcome.

Given the diversity here on Steemit I'd say it's more important to "build" your audience. For instance, I'm into Hip Hop, so I search the hashtag and interact and get to know the community, then I share and hashtag. Creat initiatives for your Steemit Community and help build each other up. I'm sure everyone thinks they produce great content, and who are we to judge them? Just my thoughts :) Check #recordpool for an initiative we're working on for the music community here!

The concept of audience "ownership" seems to be the piece most often missed here on Steemit. You own the audience you create for yourself. You "own" that audience because you've engaged with it, attracted it with your value. (Not that you own it in the sense you can control it, but in the sense that you've gathered it.) And you're not entitled to the audiences of others because you haven't done that work. But you're pointing it out and others are, too. Hopefully the message will get through eventually.

Just going around dropping random comments where you feel like it because you believe your cause is worthy is no different than me walking into your living room while you are watching Game of Thrones to tell you my son needs heart surgery and we could really use the money to save his life. It's no different than me sending you an email to buy Viagra because you may or may not be a guy that needs it and you happen to be on the Internet.

This is gold. Lol. 😁

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This comment alone solidified my intent to vote @themarkymark as a witness. Then I figured I had already voted the guy few days ago.

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He did seduce me with his gold on other posts. Awesome dude. I think he's the 2nd witness I vote for. I'm going a bit slow because I'm very picky :O

Is that not what raptors do? Test the fence?

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I can see the long climb I have ahead. Personally it sucks donkey balls. But I am at a crossroads. I did not arrive here by chance. Work to do. Not trying to redefine myself. Just trying to let go of diseased narratives by exploring old wounds from the past. Finding the things that anchor me to the unsuitable and surgically remove them. My job as I move forward is to make sure I do not become a raptor and I will see if the community sees any value in what I post. Ciao for now. More on this later...

PS. Browncoats rule!!!

Amen to that @themarkymark! It's one of the most important lessons I've learned from marketing:

If you want to EARN more, whether it's money, assets, views, or an audience for that matter, you need to GIVE people a certain amount of value. Could be education, could be a product, could be entertainment, but there's no such thing as something for nothing!

You hit the mark with this post! :)

Completely agree. Now will you upvote and follow me pretty please?!!!!!!!
It takes time to establish a following and get your work polished enough for a really great post that others want to invest in. Nothing happens in life without putting some real effort into it. Thanks for a great post.

This is so true. It took me years to develop a following on instagram - but you have to work at it.

This is truth, it happens that when we are just starting in this plattaform we get confused about how it works, and actually takes time to undertand how it fuctions and also the responsability that we each one have. Now I feel more conscient I have a long way to do.

Helpful. Thank you.

Nicely said! You sound like Malcolm Reynolds here in the flesh!

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I like your point of view, and I think that this is a common misconception around new Steemians. Many just think that by posting they will get 2000 followers and $100 on each post. This article will orient them in the right direction to adding value to the community and succeeding as a content creator.

@shredz7

lol just now I realized that by liking my own post my worth of liking goes down for other posts. That is a good reason to stop and a great explanation why my likes were not worth anything sometimes while I did not even liked an article yet that day except my own new post. I now 3 months after date, but hey; I agree! :)

I totally agree that you are not owed anything and you have to earn it - My gran always told me "nothing worth anything ever came for free" and boy was she right!! I am now on my second day in the steemit community and will continue to try to engage and be "interested and helpful" as far as I can. Steeming on!!

Sadly, I’ve seen this same trend take place (garbage posts &!comments) on many other paid to post sites. Sadly, the sites could not last as a result. I am confident that Steemit’s platform is different since the community helps separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. Hopefully we are all using our power responsibly.

I feel bad when i take my time to comment on a post and get nothing in return but the fact is i decided to write and nobody asked for it. So I decided to keep writing and commenting for I found joy in doing what i do and not because of the money. This is the similar thing I have been doing on facebook and twitter so what has changed with me doing similar on steemit. Our fate rest in time and our reward comes from God.

My friend, @themarkymark Here is a well deserved up-vote for you! I never forget anyone who helps me become stronger and you fed me with 10.8 STEEM and the last time you fed me was 16 days ago. Your effort meets my strength and enables me to help you and your friends even more!

Yours, Spinny

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Hmmm, I'm unsure and indecisive on whether this is a spam comment or if this is a spam comment.

This has been a real issue though. A lot of peeps thinking this is some sort of get rich quick platform so they don't wanna put in work and provide value.

Apart from spamming lots of post with links to personal posts some guys also go as far as begging for upvotes and follows mostly newbies.

It's kinda sad to realize that some people don't see this platform as a community and not more than a place to get paid for upvotes.