🚩 Steemit Flag War Between Bernie Sanders & Minnow booster ...Have You Been Flagged!?🚩

in steemit β€’Β  9 days ago

🚩If anyone is wondering ( which I have seen comments asking why they are being flagged ) this post is to let you know what exactly is going on as best as I can .
🚨 And it comes with a warning !🚨

🚩 ALSO : I am only providing information here for my fellow steemian's to be careful using minnowbooster or you may be flagged ! I IN NO WAY SUPPORT EITHER SIDE IN THIS CURRENT FLAG WAR !! AND APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT AND UPVOTE BOTS ! ARE THEY DRAINING THE REWARDS POOL!?!? 🚩


🚩Heres a comment I just wrote to @positivesteem who entered my Power Of Positivity POP Contest #popcontest And was flagged by Bernie Sanders , but he didn't know why :🚩

"This new bout of flagging wars is with minnowbooster and Bernie Sanders ! I believe one of his bots was somehow shut down ( randowhale ?) which is no longer taking bids . Accused of stealing money from the rewards pool , which is always the reason for these flag wars since steemit began !!
So now he is accusing minnowbooster of stealing 200.00 or more per day from the rewards pool by making posts daily and being rewarded for those posts in SP and SD ! And he told Minnow Booster that if they don't stop he will start flagging anyone that uses the minnow booster service ! So if you don't want to be flagged by Bernie Sanders , DON'T USE MINNOW BOOSTER . AT LEAST FOR NOW ! STEEM ON MY FRIEND ..!"


🚩 Heres an excerpt from the ongoing Flag saga taken from the Minnow Booster post , when this war began 5 days ago , and heres a link with much more comments added in the post : 🚩
https://steemit.com/minnowbooster/@minnowbooster/where-have-all-the-upgoats-gone-the-state-of-the-boost

berniesanders (-19) Β· 5 days ago
" How about the fact that you're raping the reward pool to the tune of $200 almost daily now with these bullshit posts? Would you like me to completely kill off your service? If so, please continue doing what you are because you're very close to me doing so.

It really wouldn't be hard for me to start countering everything your service does. How would your customers like that? Pretty sure they wouldn't want 50+ flags every time they receive a vote from you."

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🚩 Check the link I provided above for the comments that came after this comment from Bernie Sanders . There's too many for me to comment and list here .🚩


🚩 So what I want to know is what do you guys think of all these different Upvote / Booster Bots !?!? Do you use them to boost your posts !? ( as we all know , for most of us our posts make nothing unless we do use them ! ) Which I Do ! And is there anything being done to change this situation so the whales and Dolphins start up voting our posts again with more frequency ! Also this 10 up vote max per day is not working as most go over this which depletes your voting power , thus everyone's up votes are worth nothing , so no one makes any money (or very little ) on their posts or gets no further ahead in reputation , causing everyone to use these Bots to begin with to try and get their posts hopefully trending !! Phew ! im out of breath !! 🚩


πŸ˜€ Lets stay positive my friends ! And enter my Steemit Power Of Positivity POP Contest #14 ! Lets help spread more positivity around Steemit in these trying times , by entering a positive post of any kind By this SATURDAY , which I will Up vote And Resteem All Entries !! Heres the link with all the Contest Details : https://steemit.com/popcontest/@karenmckersie/new-power-of-positivity-pop-contest-14-last-weeks-winners-announced


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@momskitchen approves of the heads up !! βœŒπŸ‘πŸ’•πŸ‘Œ

thanks for the heads up.

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Your very welcome @bkkshadow !πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘βœŒ

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The @OriginalWorks bot has determined this post by @karenmckersie to be original material and upvoted(1.5%) it!

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Thanks for the heads up, I did see threats of this war recently, interesting that it appears to be happening.

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Your welcome @phelimint ! Yes the Flagging Saga Rages on im afraid !πŸ‘ŒβœŒπŸ‘πŸš©

Yes , I also went through their few post ! They are on war of flagging ! Also Techslut , she also on war with him !

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The Flagging Saga Continues...This definitely could get ugly before it gets better safely enough...πŸ’•πŸ‘ŒπŸ‘βœŒπŸš©

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Exactly my friend !

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😍😍😍

The cost of war

We know the minnows that were the unfortunate people who get flagged. By the way, In the defense of the minnows, what are the odds these peoples use both of the services? Minnowbooster and Randowhale? Too high! Mr. Bernie’s way doing is hurting the minnows rather than Minnowbooster itself.
In this war, we minnows hopeful for more diplomatic action.

Imagine these people running the country? What will happen to the citizen?
As a minnow myself, I too use both services, in fact, I used them all, each and every Bot that can provide me with better ROI after spending hours drafting my post. That is my way to increase my SP, is that wrong?

Besides being a community policing without getting appointed by anyone, put yourself in the Minnow’s shoe and start making great contents for a livingβ€”like what all minnows does.

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thanks for your reply @cikxaijen ! But not all minnows post great content that should be promoted or upped ! I see a ton of garbage posts by lots of people , not just minnows and its these people that are abusing the bots with their spammy posts , they will put up a post with one photo in it and Absolutely no content , then bot the crap of it because they just want the money and could care less about the great content creators that deserve to be promoted !! And this why we end up in this situation , until things change on Steemit !

Thanks for the info. I try and stay out of all of these wars as best as I can.

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Ha haha that's a good idea @kus-knee ! Best to lay low , and dodge the bullets aka Flags !!! LOL πŸ’•πŸ‘ŒπŸ‘βœŒπŸš©

WOW y0u have a great blog! I had a physical challenge and just am getting back in the swing of things. I don't know what is going on and learn a lot from blogs. Keep up the great work.

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Thanks for your kind reply @pitterpatter ! Awe ! Such a sweet puppy dog , a perfect picture of positivity !πŸ•πŸΆπŸ•πŸΆπŸ•πŸΆπŸ©

This is exactly why we are spending our time researching the best ways to promote good quality hosts and do it in a socially and ethically responsible manner.

We hope to bring some contests, promotions, help and advice to all steemians one day in the future

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That's great @steempromo ! Be sure to include my Steemit Power Of Positivity POP Contest #14 ! which spreads more positivity with positive post entries , around steemit everyday ! On a weekly basis !!on my other account @karenmckersie

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Thanks for sharing that info. We're still building our reputation up, so any votes our way could help in the short term.

We will take a look at your POP Contest and consider it for sure.

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OK thanks !πŸ‘ Will check out your blog !πŸ‘ŒβœŒπŸ‘

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Heres a post link that should have more up votes and attention then it did , with what I think is a great solution !! https://steemit.com/steemit/@raised2b/if-we-want-to-slow-the-use-of-voting-bots-we-need-to-meet-a-market-need-here-s-a-possible-solution

A much needed public service announcement, this could get ugly.

I wrote up a post that details my thoughts on a possible solution to the issue. If we want to slow the use of voting bots, we need to meet a market need, here's a possible solution.

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Thanks for your great reply @raised2b ! This seems to on every few months or so ! Thanks for link drop , Something for sure needs to be done to keep steemit growing and the masses happy !!πŸ˜€βœŒπŸ‘πŸ‘ŒπŸ’•

Thank you for this @karenmckersie I found your post by following a post made by @raised2b addressing possible solutions. I am new here (40 days) and spend quite a lot of time researching the potential and practices of Steemit. My intention is to invite members of various teams and workgroups which will bring their insights, resources and sharing natures to this platform.

You speak to the concerns I have. Being new and trying to find those that are bringing value with pertinent information and content is sometimes a struggle. The "bots" overwhelm me. What I mean by that, is I find someone with a good reputation score and spend time reading their blog only to find posts of pictures or a video with absolutely no commentary. I scroll to the "replies" and "comments" only to find a page full of "bots" (which I may add are sometimes HUGE pictures that makes the page even longer to scan).

I can understand their approach in doing this, however, if we are to have a value based community that will enhance the users' experience our posts should in a general sense provide some "meat".

As for me and many of us here and those that may one day take a look at what Steemit can offer, it is the "first impressions" which mean so much. One aspect that brought me to this platform was the "Pay for Performance" approach. My hope in reviewing the problem was that it would sort of weed itself out over time. Someone not contributing would eventually receive little to no monetary value and move on to some other platform.

In looking at the process many are using, I notice a great many "upvote me I upvote you" and "follow me I follow you" crap. That coupled with the amount of bots running around and posts of pics/videos with no commentary certainly slows the wheels of progress for me (and most likely others as well).

Adding to that now, this problem of "flagging" by some narcissistic grudge holding person that would rather upset the cart of innocent people to get back at someone or a few people who may have created , as I see it, what seems to be a support group for minnows (new unsuspecting victims) may be an ongoing problem.

I do feel a bit uplifted now that I see @raised2b and yourself addressing the issue. I do hope something can be developed to make this journey a bit easier. I think it is a good plan and worthy of someone moving this idea of @raised2b 's to the next level.

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Great post @vickiebarker and I agree with you ! I really liked his post a lot , and his solutions , it bothers me these types of posts don't get as much up votes another reason why many use bots in order to get their posts noticed , I up voted and resteemed his both my accounts although my @momskitchen blog is for food and drinks ! ! Im looking forward to the day that we see a substantial improvement on Steemit and all the bots are gone ! Its still a new platform and there's alot of improvements in the works , so hopefully the next hard fork will address some of these issues along with a lot of other stuff LOL! Fingers Crossed !!πŸ‘ŒβœŒπŸ‘πŸ’•

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There is such a great potential here with the Steemit platform. I have that feeling that all the bugs and bots will get worked out. I spent some time at the Discord chat, just getting a feel for who is doing what and am very impressed.

I do have a question as you mention you have 2 memberships. This is what I need desperately. I already have an active group building on a social network: Fully Informed Public and NEED to have a Steemit account in that name. As I start inviting folks over to this platform it would help me a great deal.

How does one go about getting a second Steemit account? I didn't know if it was frowned upon or not but I can see it being a benefit not only for me but the growing of this platform as well. Can you shed some light?

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OK . Heres some information I copied for you from the hamburger menue ! If you click on those three dots in the upper right corner of your screen , you will find tons of awesome stuff and apps in the steemit app center. Anyways this was in the FAQ section ! And so you know , you are only allowed one account on steemit.com but you can have multiple accounts on the block chain , it will cost you though . This is the site I used , it was a little tricky at first , but there's no waiting , I had my account almost right away , and it cost me 10.00 steem dollars , its because you need money to transact on steemit so you cant start with nothing ! Im not sure exactly what they keep from that I cant remember !
Heres the information :
"What are other ways to create an account on the blockchain besides using Steemit.com?
If you are willing to pay your own signup fee, then there are other ways to create a new account on the blockchain.

There is a third-party tool called AnonSteem that accepts bitcoin, Litecoin, STEEM, or SBD to anonymously create a Steem account. You do not need to have an existing Steem blockchain account to use the service, but there is a charge on top of the blockchain account creation fee for using the service."

Goodness, I wish I saw this post earlier, I just used #minnowbooster about 1/2 hour ago, and I still didn't see any upvote from them.

I didn't know this was going on...I am also new to the site and learning as I go, and from my observation, many users using bots to get a higher amount, otherwise, the posts looked extremely sad..I have just started to use #minnowbooster this month since I am exhausting all other options..Thanks for the warning!

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Your welcome ! I also use minnowbooster ! Check your wallet again as quite often they send back your money if you don't send the right amount . Its very annoying ! Hopefully you don't get flagged ! Right now I only use @bellyrub you need send at least 1.00SD and I also don't mind nettybot its not a lot but it only costs 0.10 SD ! Good luck .

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No, they haven't sent the money back..and still no vote! I consider it lost since I don't know what to do or how to get it back.

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All you can do I guess is leave them a message in their post , (which they post every day ) letting them know you were never up voted , with a link to the post that you wanted upped . Hopefully they will fix it . Good luck !πŸ‘

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thanks !

what is flag war...who are those guys...my first day of steemit and first full post i read and love your style...but educate me more...tks

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Sorry LOL but its complicated ! They are basically flagging each other back and forth etc. You will see the it going on in the link I provided in my post at "minnowbooster" by Bernie Sanders ! But this feud goes back a while now and its to much for me to explain ! Im just too busy , but you can figure it out by reading that comments over there . Don't worry though , just don't use the minnow booster bot to up vote your post .πŸ˜πŸ’•πŸ‘πŸ˜€

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Thanks, i will follow more of your post to learn more, like your post.

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Awe thank you !!

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welcome, like your style. Tumbs up.