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RE: To the founders @ned and others: steemit will FAIL unless you DO THE FOLLOWING simple things
Pro tip: give people a reason to follow you other than that you will follow them back. Better for the ecosystem. Provide value 😉
There are no "pros" amongst sheep and the world consists mostly of sheep, not men!
It's only because the most powerful/ rich say that such and such is "proper etiquette" that the herd goes along with it.
Fuck that all to hell, I say. Fuck authority down to hell, I say! You are your own authority and I am mine, so long as we are free enough from our own fears to see that truth, but sheep are too cowardly to go that deep (into consciousness).
Are you a sheep?
Value, like anything, is in the eye of the onlooker and opinions are worth far less than $0.02. Most of them actually steal money away! There's your real "pro tip".
Hey man I'm just trying to help out here. Seems @evgenya86 's main goal is to get people to upvote and follow her and I'm just trying to help her do so. Popular people don't ask people to follow them without offering any value in return.
I'm not talking about etiquette, I'm offering advice on how she can get more followers and upvotes. How does your advice help her more in towards that goal than mine did?
We're speaking at different levels. I agree that "value" in the current paradigm is exactly what you suggest that it is, for the far majority.
What I'm saying is we're at a link right now on chain of causes and effects that moves all the way back to the first thing that we learned from our mothers and/ or fathers and/or care-takers.
"Your opinion" isn't so much yours as it is the collective of your teachers', and by "teachers" I mean everyone that ever influenced your beliefs and/or how you think. The opinion of these "teachers" are those of their own teachers'...on and on down the line. And all of these "teachers" are most influenced by the "highest authorities" of their times.
Who are these "highest authorities"?
The people who have the most resources and wish to keep it that way; the rich; the "elite"; the "government"; the tribal leaders; the fear mongers.
We can break free, that's all I'm saying. We don't have to be sheep. We can be our own men. We can take back all our power and all our judgments about what is "value" and what is not, and that starts by facing our fears -- ALL of them, all the way down to the most fundamental (the fear of death).
THEN, and only then, will "your thoughts" really be your own. When fear rules us, we coward into conformity. We aren't true individuals.
Interesting conversation. We're going on a huge tangent here but I'll indulge you.
I agree that opinions are largely influenced by society although I would think I am one of the exceptions for a variety of reasons.
In any case I also hate the inequality caused by the elite having ridiculous amounts of power. I would say I'm trying to change that by helping out minnows on Steemit who don't have much money making power to get more money.
How can you hate on that?
:) Where did you find that gif and how did you post it in the comments?
In google in the search for gif in the picture copy the link and insert it into the post and all)
I don't hate on it at all. By all means, do what you think is right and help others in any way that you can.
Just don't think that you have the answers that will meet individual needs, because, you, I and likely everyone else most certainly do not.
It takes a certain amount of assuming before we can offer up a suggestion, especially to a stranger, and it takes a certain amount of arrogance to take the position of the "expert" with advice, and I know that I'm just as guilty of this, if not moreso, than you...realize too that I'm not trying to say that it's a bad thing, just pointing out the facts.
We have loose answers to our own problems (most of which we're unlikely to follow through on) and close to none for other people, thanks to that shaky foundation.
Sometimes people need advice and sometimes they need a lift. Sometimes they need both. Perhaps you and I are both right in this instance. A starving man needs fish right now! But, you're right, teaching him to fish should see to it that he never comes to that point again in the future.
Perhaps you just caught me in a bad mood earlier today and I'm now trying to justify the position that I took at that time.
...ok, I'll admit, I was operating off of some bad news. That said, there's a lot of truth in what I said in those posts, but you're pretty much innocent in every way that I can slice it. You're a good dude. Unfortunately, I'm about as mentally stable as the US economy at the moment!
...so, I apologize for coming down on you earlier. I was in the wrong. Your position is pretty rock solid and my argument is shaky at best, with a little truth dashed in, albeit not too relevant.
How was it to see your debater go from solidly against you to praising your position in a single post? Quite the waffler I am, eh?
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Have yourself an upvote for playing it like a champ!
By upvoting her post you gave her a fish. I'm teaching her how to fish.
Yes, I took a faulty position, considering the context. My arguments would be relevant in millions upon millions of instances, but yours is not one of them.
I apologize for blowing up on you. Just one of those "right place at the wrong time" kind of moments.
Come on then - please tell us how to do these - they are adorable!!!!
In google in the search for gif in the picture copy the link and insert it into the post and all)
I say that there are two good reasons to help your fellow steemers learn to comment effectively. One is to help that person make friends better.
The other reason is so that the place looks good for other people who see it and might want to join. This place has a very good Alexa Ranking and Moz ranking so someone from outside might come to find this post.
This type of invite (above) will not work on any platform with real people on it. On steemit I have seen people be mean about it with rude gifs so that looks bad too. To me, it's nice to have someone like @blockchainttmft try to help.
What would be better is for the person above to make a good comment about what she read and then say she followed, resteemed and/or upvoted. That way, the person getting the comment will want to interact.
It's nothing about anyone enforcing rules - it's about people being nice and helping each other.
If you just tell people to follow you - they won't - and it looks bad for you and for steemit. If you make a cool comment - then anyone would want to follow you, so it's a win-win.
she was a robot, it is tragic this has gone so far
Seriously! Thank you for telling me. Here's me trying to be helpful and interesting in my comments. Ergh...
I am so lost in this place. The ways I can waste time have significantly upticked in the last month. Guess why?