Investors and earners: are they committed?

in #steem6 years ago

Just by the title, this is already going to be a subjective post but, I think it is worth the discussion or at least, some thought put in behind it as both sides come up often. It is obvious that we need investors to increasingly choose to buy into Steem and since it is at the core of the concept, we need earners who are willing to work in various ways to be rewarded in Steem.

I mentioned the other day that I was both investor and earner here and although there were some semantic arguments, I still see that as true. The reason is that even though I have mostly earned (I have bought some Steem with fiat) my stake here, I have also taken earnings, invested into other projects, sold and then bought back in. So, this makes me an investor of at least some sort and definitely an earner on the platform. Which side of me is more committed? Well, it is hard to tease them apart when it has been done the way I have done it so, lets look at a scenario or two from a true investor perspective.

Scenario 1:

Let's say someone has 100K dollars worth of fiat to buy in with and bought 7 cent Steem last March giving them 1.4 Million Steem and a current value of 1.4 million dollars. 1.3 million profit is not a bad year and a half's work for most people.

Are they committed?

Scenario 2:

Let's say that they bought 100K dollars at the same time with BTC that they had originally paid 1000 dollars for the BTC. They have the same 1.4 million Steem, have sunk the same 100K value.

Are they committed?

Does where the 100K dollars come from matter and, does it matter what it took to get it? Absolutely. Let's assume that in both scenarios, the fiat was earned through work and savings. In general, to be able to save 100k takes more work than 1k, years more work and likely at a job that carries more responsibility and takes more sacrifices. The 100k although equivalent, are not likely viewed in the same way by each person as the personal cost of acquisition was vastly different.

Let's hold that thought a moment and look at earners.

Scenario 3:

Lets say that someone came onto the platform early and earned 100K Steem through posting, engaging, commenting, link dropping and general hustle and effort. They were lucky and got some whale support but, also worked harder than most to get towhere they are.

Are they committed?

Scenario 4:

Let's say that there is someone else who came in at the same time and for whatever reason, got favoured heavily, received free delegation and enjoyed high support regardless the effort or engagement level they put in. They could post, sit back and do nothing, and still earn their 100k Steem.

Are they committed?

Does it matter how much work it takes to earn the same amount of Steem? Are those who get it easier for whatever reason as engaged on the platform, as likely to power up, comment, help users. Are they as likely to be here through thick and thin or, do they disappear if times get hard, do they complain if their support drops?

As an example, I came across an account (one of about 10 in a circle) that has earned 10% more total Steem than I have on 1/4 of the posts (450) and only has 270 comments to their name in two years of being on the platform. They post daily yet only drop a comment every few days without answering most of the comments they get, even though they only get two or three in total on posts that even now are hitting 60 dollars every post without a bidbot in sight. They are in a constant power down and take all liquids out to Bittrex. Are they committed or, are they milking the system? There are many such accounts that have had an easy run of it and many that still do.

These things are things to think about for as I see it, there is a correlation between the effort it takes to earn the Steem and how committed one is to the platform. There are many people selling off now who were investors but, perhaps that even though prices are low, they are still taking very large profits on their initial investments and of they are crypto-made players over the long term, they could be up 10,000s of percent on their initial buys of Bitcoin or Ethereum for example. There are people who have earned doing the hard yards and they tend to fight for the platform and, keep pushing themselves and, helping others.

We need investors, we need earners, we need engagement, we need Steem moving, we need a whole range of things to get this platform operating healthily but, does it require a commitment to the platform or, is it going to happen if everyone just has an investor mindset where as long as there are profits, it's all good or, when steem goes up, time to sell?

I don't know but when it comes to choosing investors for a project, it is important that they are investors who understand the timelines and aren't going to pull the plug mid way through development. For the earners who have it easy, I am glad they sell but I wish they still didn't have it easy as there are many doing it hard who could likely use the Steem in more useful ways.

There is a lot of variation when it comes to what people are willing and to what depth they are willing to commit to something, whether it be a relationship, job, investment or community like this one. There is also variation in what they think commitment actually is and whether they are curious enough to find out.

As I see it, it is like the money given to a child for allowance or the allowance earned by that child by doing odd jobs. When something is earned, it is much harder to part with and whatever is bought with it is seen as much more valuable, including investments. This of course brings in another question, how does one evaluate what is earned?

It all gets very personal and as I said, the entire thing is subjective. Quality is subjective, what is good engagement is subjective and, what people think the future holds is subjective. The only thing that is objective is that one day we are going to look back at these points and say, we did it or it failed.

People are happy to commit to credit for success but much less likely to take responsibility for their role in a failure. At the end of the day though, we all have a part to play no matter where we end up.

Taraz
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Constantly powering down and not engaging doesn't sound like a person trying to improve the community, but they are committed to one thing at least :)

Yes and they are doing well at it.

Since being here I have seen the full range of people's desires. From one end to the other. This is because here we are not looking at a small bubble, but one of the world.
It does take all kinds to make a community. No different then any city or local community The only danger that can creep in is when the pendulum swings to far in any one direction.
This update coming on Sept. 25 hopefully bring some needed balance

I actually think that there is a balance point where a level of scam is required in order for the rest of the community to face it together. but, I also think it is easy to have too much scam when it comes to online communities since there is very little face to face responsibility.

It's on big balancing act. Too much either way is bad and they both lead to destruction. Scams stop people from turning into sheep. Then you have everyone becoming victims and require the free handouts. People survive and prosper best with a disaster. They all come together.

As I beginner here, I realized something important here. To be a earner here, first you have to be an investor. Either bring in your own money or keep powering up what you earn here. Its not about self upvoting but because few will follow you if you have a low stake in the system.

Then there comes the question of real earnings v/s those who are either heavily circle-jerking or only self upvoting. In either cases, the rewards are being earned....... there literally is no problem with either approaches, if they can generate interest, engagement, more signups, retention and such. One thing that I have realized is that loosing my hair over a few jerks isn't worth it. There are too many good people here....

Its not about self upvoting but because few will follow you if you have a low stake in the system.

Self-voting only works if one already has enough stake. It could also be use to attract other large votes in a circle situation. I am not saying it is great but those who power everything down lose their ability to help others to a great degree and therefore, aren't as attractive to support either.

I don't think it really matters how one got their Steem as long as they are committed to the platform. We are all in this together and have to make it succeed. Like you I am putting my heart and soul into this and Steem is so undervalued that it has to boom at some point. You are so right as we all have a role to play here.

I know a lot of people seem to be concerned about the price. It is just a function of the market. In three years will being rewarded be as important as having people comment on post? Is steemit becoming more of a Social Media hang-out, than a get rich quick scheme for some that came for the money? Last year I when I was new to steemit, there were a lot of the v4v f4f comments and a lot of blasting those comments into the nether region. About december time frame, people started trying to educate those commenters about the etiquette of steemit, and those comments are virtually gone today.

I think the make up of steemit, could be in a transition phase. Like you said there were many that came for investing, many multi use people like yourself, and many more that see the pleasure side of steemit. The ability to show and tell about their lives with little fear of trolls. We need to be careful to not drive investors away, yet we can not drive the content creators away either, and then there are the mixed mutts, the user/viewer, commentator, and occasional creator.

There are many places to go on the internet, and as I have mentioned in post and comments before, I was out of social media for the last 15 years. Now, for the last year fully back in and enjoying it here.

Succeed or fail, I don't think finger pointing in one direction or another should be done, we win or we lose.

There are many places to go on the internet, and as I have mentioned in post and comments before, I was out of social media for the last 15 years. Now, for the last year fully back in and enjoying it here.

I enjoy my time here much more than at the other places. For me, Facebook was a chat channel to talk with friends, the content itself was a background. Whatsapp replaced that. Here though I enjoy creating and enjoy having a sense of being a part of the community.

I think it's true that one values something in accordance with how one came by it. For example, I value the $43 dollars of Steem I own more than the equivalent amount of real currency in my pocket.

This is ironic, because I did not "earn" the Steem, as it was gifted to me by people like you lol. But the memory of two months of engagements and discussions and interactions on Steemit elevates that small stake beyond the equivalent dollar amount, for me.

Predictably, I'm more willing to part with the $43 in my pocket than my $43 worth of Steem.

I doubt that means anything for the Steem eco-system though, as it can't be controlled how people acquire Steem, nor how much they care about it when they do. :0

Predictably, I'm more willing to part with the $43 in my pocket than my $43 worth of Steem.

Yes, it is interesting. 5 Steem buys a coffee maybe but buying a coffee with Steem? People keep spending their fiat though. (not on Steem obviously :D )

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