I quite like the Steem Proposal System, I just wish more people would engage with it!
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I've moved to Hive, along with most other people, following Justin Sun's takeover of Steem in the Spring of 2020. I believe hive is a lot more decentralised than Steem!
Engagement is one of the most effective attitudes to make things work properly here (and outside the internet).
Yes, it's not rocket science, although I still have reservations about stake weighted voting!
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Yeah there's lots of silent (deadly) accounts voting for witnesses, but the lead account in that mess of proxies obviously isn't voting for proposals. I actually think if you disregard that silent stake, there is a reasonable turn out for the SPS from the larger accounts.
I wonder if you can track number of voters anywhere....?
It could be worse I suppose!
It's no doubt possible to track voters, it'd also be interesting to see the largest accounts that have voted for witness but haven't voted for SPS, or haven't voted for either.
And to see how many of whatever levels have voted for either.
I'm sure @crokkon would love to get his teeth stuck into that mess! He probably hasn't got anything better to do until Valentine's Day.
I'll look into this!
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I hope you get a nice percentage out of this, but I think you got in too early!
I tried this the other day with someone else at 2 mins and my efficiency is way down at 60%, despite a decent pay-out!
I don’t really try to think about the efficiency and just use it to help support posts I like or raise an important subject like this one.
I totally agree with you, and although I have been doing my bit to try and support proposals I’m fact I’m as bad as everyone else for not voting many so far.
The theory behind SPS is good, but realistically if the top twenty want a proposal to happen it will - the rest of us adding our vote is little more then a token gesture to show we like the idea.
Yes true, get @blocktrades onboard and you're already a quarter of the way there!
It took quite a lot of work from @anomadsoul to rustle up support to lift @steemonboarding above the return proposal, a lot of that focusing on very large accounts.
And thanks for the tipu vote, appreciated, I actually think it's a very clever way of gamifying curation, one of the cleverest things on Steem in fact!
You're still above 100% efficiency I notice!
I'm not sure about "lazy". People have a limited amount of time and they set their priorities about how they want to spend it - goodness knows Steem vould eat up all of it one way or another. Plus, as you pointed out in a previous post, even at 27,000 SP, does your vote make any difference either way, so why would people give attention to this?
I did put the lazy thing in inverted commas!
I just see this and the witness votes as fundamental!
I can't vote on these things anywhere else!
Albeit only as decentralised as yr SP.
Interesting that on witness votes and this it's total SP not active that counts
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I take your point 😎
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I have support a few projects, but I honestly forget to check it x)
And my SP doesn't even more projects 1% :p
Yes fair point, it is depressing when you realise how little influence one has compared to the larger accounts! Still, I think it's better to use one's SP!
I updated some of my votes after I read your post :D
But ye, it doesn't change much :p
Good to hear!
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I don't like it. I was using it but the last proposal I voted for was the one set up by @steemchiller to get funding for developing Steemworld.
Many whales used that proposal to try forcing him to release the code for a few peanuts and then they acted together to make sure his proposal was rejected.
If the SPS is going to be used to abuse power like that, I don't care for it. At all.
From that point, I started ignoring the proposals completely.
People should be free to develop their apps as they feel like. Steemworld's Source Code is worth a lot more than what the whales were offering.
Fair comment,
Unfortunately that is like in a decetralised stake based voting system, whales with effectively double standards!
It's appalling what you say. Steemworld is well worth a vote!