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RE: Let's talk about Steem

in #steem6 years ago

To me this makes a lot of sense... I discussed at length with polymath this subject when he wrote his post.

You basically have the stake holders getting their ROI, but not skewing the trending page and thus creating a better system of incentives for quality content.

I fail to see the issues with this... I'm serious.

I'll be ballsy and tag @transisto here to ask him.

Hey @transisto, how would you feel about making your ROI and never having to post anything? Would that not be easier?

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Trending page is a pure frontend issue. No need to crack the economy when all you have to do is to fix it is changing post sorting algo.

I would love to agree with you, but i think its a bit more complicated than that. Yes, that is a big element of it, no doubt.

But... hear me out for a second.

What about content discovery? What about incentives for content discovery? What about profitable curation for content consumers?

Do we wanna have 20% content creators 80% content consumers. Like... Youtube? Maybe...

I see your point, that is part of it, but the solution is layered. At least if we are attempting to grow at the scale I picture.

On YouTube I like someone content not because I wanna profit on its creator's populariby but because I actually LIKE what he's doing.

That is curation. That is a feedback between creator and his audience.

i hear you, you are being logical brother. I'm not devil advocating to disagree, I'm simply trying to point out that the expectation behind participating of Steem is because people here can make money.

We have to be honest, i love our dapps, but they are young and glitchy. Remove the monetary compensation, and there reasons to participate of them reduce quite considerably.

Maybe not for me, maybe I would say.. but im trying not to judge solely from my point of view.

Exactly!
And now we are talking about remove that monetary SP-based incentive and replace it with bot swarms and that oracles?

Wha... what?

not on steem no, this is for an SMT that Steemit is going to launch. we need the incentive to hold SP. Two different things.

Do we wanna have 20% content creators 80% content consumers. Like... Youtube? Maybe...

Thing is, not everybody is a good content creator.

And honestly, 20-80 is a pretty good number, if those 20% is actually good quality content...

acho que falar de uns 20% e ate muito... nao tenho os números do youtube mas eu acho que tem que ser menor... o fato e que nos nao podemos ter tudo mundo tentando ser um youtuber aqui, porque ficamos sem ninguém assistindo os videos... isso nao faz sentido.

O que eu estava pensando esses dias é que o problema é um pouco mais profundo... Está na indefinição de que tipo de plataforma o Steemit quer ser.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@phgnomo/porque-o-steemit-nao-e-atrativo-aos-produtores-de-conteudo-de-qualidade

vou dar uma olhada ai.

Reward the number of followers; if an account has many followers, this is because it is publishing quality content.

That would be awesome, but... today we have so many bots, those numbers could be skewed!

i guess my question is- how would the posts have value? how would the earnings change? if 1account=1vote and oracles and communities decide what things are worth -- do the oracles/communities then have to work really hard to "be worth anything" to be able to give a vote?

i see this changing the entire ecosystem of steem and i'm honestly confused as to what it will look like and now what type of behavior will be incentivized. take food, for example... food is a huge category wherever you go on the internet. always a lot of people clamoring for that well photographed yummy food porn! will the "food" community (because of the # of its users) have a lot of "power" (highter vote b/c more votes?) and the lesser (less members) communities have small votes simply because they have less interest. this will incentivize people to get into the communities with more people?

i truly don't see how this can pan out in a healthy way!! haha, because in the end, it does come down to earnings no matter what people will say and earnings incentivize behavior! curious to hear people's thoughts who do have a better grasp on this. @therealwolf @meno @tcpolymath

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