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RE: Reminder: Steem absolutely and completely violates GDPR and European privacy laws

in #steem6 years ago (edited)

Steemit.com is going to comply with GDPR. Indeed, Steemit has remove a lot of content on the site in the past, responding to DMCA notices etc. Maybe you should use a different app on the Steem blockchain since your political rant makes it clear you don't agree with the regulation. While you are at it, you may want to edit all references to "Steemit" in your post to "Steem".

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Good point about Steem/Steemit. Thanks! I often forget to note the difference as the only interaction I have with Steem is Steemit.

If Steemit has a mechanism in place to remove content already, problem solved.

As to the rest of your rant about public information being public, where's the problem?

Is there a problem in your view with the public having access to public information?

If Steemit morphs into some lapdog of tyranny, don't worry, I'll be gone.

The problem is not solved as the infringing data is still held in the Steem blockchain. Privacy is a human right, there's no distinction between "private" data and "public" data, and like all human rights privacy is timeless. I.e. by foregoing your privacy today doesn't mean you don't have the right to privacy in the future.

I understand that you see the above distinction, but the law is the law. If you don't like the law, I would recommend you protest in appropriate forum.

Ah, the distinction was not clear, and both you and @carlgnash assume I should know that if Steemit removes content, they don't do so by hardforking and removing the infringing data from the blockchain.

I would have assumed this was necessary to satisfy DMCA.

But, a mechanism does exist to remove data from the blockchain.

It's called a hardfork.

That's the whole point of my initial rant. (As well as previous rants over the last two years) There needs to be a defined, transparent system implemented that responds to DMCA, GDPR etc. Something like witnesses review and approve amendments, and it leads to thousands of microforks. But the system has to be robust enough so everyone's on the right chain at all times etc.

(I'm not a developer - I'm sure they will come up with a better solution.)

you are again missing the distinction between "Steem" and "Steemit". Steemit has a mechanism in place to remove content, as in steemit.com. One website. One website not displaying content that is on the blockchain, is different than a way to remove that content from the Steem blockchain.

Even if every web front end for Steem in the world didn't display illegal content, that content would still exist in the servers of the witnesses. It has to - the witness server has to have the whole blockchain. There is no current mechanism to remove data from a block once it has been produced.

"If Steemit has a mechanism in place to remove content already, problem solved."

Is what I said.

"Steemit has a mechanism in place to remove content, as in steemit.com."

Is what you said to correct me.

'sup?

You are still missing it. Steemit.com having a method in place to remove content does not mean the content is removed from the steem blockchain. The entire point of liberosist's post is that the witnesses who run servers, which hold the blockchain, are still in possession of illegal material even if steemit.com has removed it (meaning, is not displaying it) from one website. The content has not been removed from steem. steemit does not equal steem

I have grasped my failure to understand that @liberosist's statement that Steemit complied with DMCA takedowns by removing content did not mean they removed it from the blockchain, which I assumed was what he meant by 'removed'.

Data can be removed from the blockchain, as I pointed out in my last reply to @liberosist, with a hardfork.

Thanks for clarifying for me =)

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