Hard Fork 21: A Case For the 50/50 Curation Reward Model

in #steem5 years ago (edited)

It's no longer news that hard fork 21 is underway on the Steem blockchain. As you probably know, with every hard fork comes some key changes.

A fine post by @timcliff have done justice to the proposed updates that HF21 will bring. I will advise that you find time to read those posts.

While it is left for the witnesses to either vote in favour or against many of the proposed changes, today I'll be discussing what seems like a radical change - the 50/50 curation model.

This model is a subset of the Economic Improvement Proposal. It will see a radical adjustment in the post payout as we presently know it.

Under the current regime, the author gets 75% of the payouts on posts while the curators get to share the remaining 25% depending on their voting weights.

However, the proposed 50/50 model, which has already been introduced on https://palnet.io, will give curators equal earning power as the author. Under this regime, the author will earn 50% of the payouts on posts while the curators will have to share the remaining 50% - of course, depending on the voting powers of the curators.

The proposal above, frankly, is the most controversial update of the forthcoming hard fork. And it has been received with great resistance in many quarters.

Majority of those who kick against the proposal have argued that the model will give more power to the whales and take away reward from the authors who add value to this blockchain.

Another argument that has been put forward is that a 50/50 curation model may end up demoralizing authors, quenching their interest in Steem and moving their blogging activities to other rival blockchains.

A Different Approach to the Matter

Personally, I agree that a 50/50 curation model will indeed give more powers to the whales because they will earn more. However, this is a deserved power, deserved because the whales are investors. And for things to progress on here, the investors ought to get reasonable returns on their investments.

One important point we often ignore here is that neither Steem, Steemit nor any other dapp on here can exist without dedicated investors, investors who have a long term perspective. And who are such kind of investors? They are those who hold Steem power.

Therefore, as a way of providing incentives to SP holders, a 50/50 curation model is necessary. If investors can earn more from holding Steem, it is likely that more investors will come into the scene. And that could do some magic to the price of Steem in the long run.

Also, it is less likely that content creators will leave Steem because their rewards have been slashed. For now, there is no known competitor of Steem. With the whole hype about Voice, it is still not an alternative to Steemit yet.

Still on the above point, there is a strong likelihood that if author rewards are cut while curator rewards are increased, curators will likely vote more on posts to earn more reward. Of course, all parties (both curators and authors) will benefit from the proposed 50/50 economic model.

Finally, I believe that the proposed model will reduce, if not eliminate, the use of bid bots - which many have rightly pointed out as the major problem confronting engagement on this ecosystem. If the 50/50 model pulls through, any Steem sent to bid bots can NEVER be profitable. We may see many bid bot owners closing shop in the coming days.

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Does anyone know when the hard fork will happen, other than soon? like is there a website to check? thanks

I actually couldn't find any information about it :(

I don't have much to say that hasn't been said already. On the surface of it, it looks like content creators are getting a 33% pay cut and curators are getting a 50% rise. Maybe it will encourage more people to vest their steem as SP and so reduce supply on the markets and in turn cause a price rise. That'd be a bit of a win imo since demand/supply curves tend to be curved rather than linear.
About bidbots - I don't think they're going away because of HF21. The market prices for upvotes will adjust accordingly and they bots will stay. The bidbots can afford it since their previous loses are probably offset by curation gains.
Time will tell.

Dear @eturnerx

Thanks for dropping by and sharing your opinion with us.

I don't have much to say that hasn't been said already.

Nothing can be said that others didn't. I know that we will be repeating ourselfs,However I'm curious what majority of people think.

About bidbots - I don't think they're going away because of HF21.

Neither do I. Bot's will surely stay and bots will be growing twice as fast. That's scary.

Yours
Piotr

Hi @gandhibaba, the big boss man @crypto.piotr sent me a memo about this post and here is my 2 cents thoughts about the whole thing.

I for one have read so many post for and against the HF21 and what I can say is that so many things and outcome are based on the assumption that people will behave this way or that way.

What I have seen in my many years on planet earth is that humans are unpredictable.

Some of the assumptions of the HF21 is based on the fact that people will behave in a certain manner or way. Has there been any statistics done on the what if's?

A lot of content creators earn their livelihood on Steem, what if they leave Steem because they view this as a way of reducing their earnings from 75% to 50%.

Have we looked at most of the post of content creators and what they earn without promoting their post? Many earn less than $1. What if they decide not to promote their post? How is their earning going to go up?

What if content creators decide to burst content creation and just place the SP for sell?

The more I look at this the more it is telling me we are assuming a lot and taking things for granted.

I am a content creator, I make one or two post daily, I am not going anywhere but my actions going forward will be based on the reactions of the majority.

If you say bid bot is our problem then put a cap on it. I believe if you're traveling internationally I believe there is a max cash you can carry, why can't we do that for bid bot?

If self vote is the issue why can't a cap be placed on it say once a day?

I've tried hard to understand the point of HF21, I've really tried and that is why I keep reading post for and against it.

All i can say at the end is that HF21 is based on assumptions that humans will behave in a certain way. If the assumptions end up becoming correct, that is what we have to wait for and see. All I know is that human beings are unpredictable and you can take that to the bank.

Hi @ketcom. It's me one more time.

I am a content creator, I make one or two post daily,

That's a lot. Why so much?

I also wanted to make some suggestion.

My impression is, that the hardest part of attracting attention on STEEMIT is the fact, that our audience have very little chance to actually find our publications. Lack of solid notification system is an obvious issue. And regardless how hard I would try - there is very little chance I would find out about your new interesting publications (my feed is just flooded with to many posts).

Please allow me to share some suggestion with you. If you would ever publish content related to blockchain, crypto, artificial intelligence, psychology etc. then perhaps you could simply send me memo with link to that post.

This way not only I would have a chance to read your publication, but I will also upvote it right away with 20k SP voting power. If I would consider it interesting then I may also share it with wider audience.

Please let me know what do you think.

Yours,
Piotr

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Dear @ketcom

I must admit that your comment put a huge smile on my face. Especially when you called me "the big boss man" hahaha :) Love it!

Thanks for sharing your own 2 cents with us on this particular subject.

I for one have read so many post for and against the HF21 and what I can say is that so many things and outcome are based on the assumption that people will behave this way or that way.

our assumption should always be that people will look for ways to abuse each system, to gain short term benefits.

Unfortunatelly it's not the case now. HF21 is showing some vision. Vision that could be perfect but this vision completely seem to ignore the fact, that it's opening enormous doors for financial abuses.

A lot of content creators earn their livelihood on Steem, what if they leave Steem because they view this as a way of reducing their earnings from 75% to 50%

the worst of all is the fact, that those who actually bring value to Steemit platform by commenting and encouraging authors - they are basically abandoned.

I'm replying to huge amount of comments daily and as an author of those comments I get hardly anything. And all those rewards it will be reduced even more.

I've tried hard to understand the point of HF21, I've really tried and that is why I keep reading post for and against it.

We're on the same page. I've also read some people saying how HF21 will stop bidbot and self-upvote abuse. How it will encourage quality curating. But I see all of it as a "wishes" and at the same time growing threats seem to be very real.

Yours
Piotr

Thank you @crypto.piotr for sharing this post to me.

Dear @gandhibaba,

I think changing the current 75/25 to 50/50 is unfair to the authors. I know both authors and curators are important. However, authors do the heavy lifting so they deserve more than just half of the payout.

As a daily content creator, I find 50/50 rather demotivating as I will be facing a pay cut. I might consider to reduce the frequency of posting content and spend more time upvoting and curating.

Coming up with consistent quality content can be time and energy consuming, and if authors don't get rewarded enough for their hardwork then they might as well consider switching their roles in this platform, or worse, leave and join a different platform.

Moreover, I don't think that the 50/50 decision will reduce bots. Chances are we will lose authors and have a rise in bots as they will be able to earn more by just upvoting content.

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Amazing comment @yashny

It's clear to me that we're having very similar view on that particular issue.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. I surely appreciate your time.

Moreover, I don't think that the 50/50 decision will reduce bots.

neither do I.

Yours
Piotr

Yes, we do and I'm glad that we are not alone. My pleasure =)

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The 50/50 split will:

  1. increase ROI for bid bot owners
  2. decrease ROI for bid bot users
  3. market mechanisms will correct #1 and#2
  4. the current level of bid bot usage will be sustained with less money being pumped around by users.
  5. this creates demand for more delegation to bidbots.
  6. The dust treshold combined with the new reward curve and the 50/50 reward split create additional demand for bid bots for smaller and new users.
  7. the separate down-vote pool creates insentive for current self-upvoters to move from self voting to "savely" delegating to bidbots.

So no, this won't hurt bid bots. Without a few simple fixes, that should be implemented with the EIP, not some distant HF in the future, the EIP will make the bid bot economy flourish like never before.

Amazing comment @pibara

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. I surely appreciate your time.

increase ROI for bid bot owners
decrease ROI for bid bot users

Absolutely. Surely bot-owners will have to change some algorythms to allow bots to function.

the current level of bid bot usage will be sustained with less money being pumped around by users.

You nailed it.

this creates demand for more delegation to bidbots.

And those who simply delegate to bidbots will most likely enjoy higher rewards. So delegators will be growing fast and bidbots will be growing twice as fast as they do now. Right?

ps. thx for sharing link to your old publication.

Yours
Piotr

Greetings @crypto.piotr, @gandhibaba and to everyone,

Clearly many things can happen with a single change or a shake-up.
For a beginner, like me, it may not affect me greatly or I may not even notice it.
50/50 or 75/25 for my small Steem may not buy me candy.
That is why I enjoyed reading the concern and the comments regarding Steemit platform.
If everybody will maximize the benefit that it will bring then we just have to go for it.
In any way, being vigilant is what makes a community like this survive.

Change is inevitable if we truly want to be a champion we have to embrace the path that may benefit us the most and concentrate where we can profit the most in that given situation.
We can be a champion for a year or will be in the finals for 5 straight years in which play there will always be a winner. It is nice to be in either of these teams.

Teamwork for curators and authors should be emphasized and enhanced so we can all benefit as a community.

Warm Regards to everybody

Amazing comment @jackramsey

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. I surely appreciate your time.

Yours
Piotr

Happy to hear that
Regards

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@ganhibaba [email protected] I have read posts on both sides of this debate and I have been unable to determine what side to believe. Without having real test cases to evaluate, no one has presented real data that I am able to evaluate to push me one way or the other. I just have to hope the change does not create massive turmoil. We are a community who are here for different reasons. I came with the hope to earn something (however small or large) for my efforts here and found some communities that I enjoy engaging with. As with all "social" online sites there are good people and negative people. I just hope the good engaging people win out in the end.

Dear @mytechtrail

I have read posts on both sides of this debate and I have been unable to determine what side to believe.

Wow. not many people seem to be as neutral as you are :)

Appreciate reading this discussion and sharing your view.

Yours
Piotr

Majority of those who kick against the proposal have argued that the model will give more power to the whales and take away reward from the curators who add value to this blockchain.

Another argument that has been put forward is that a 50/50 curation model may end up demoralizing curators, quenching their interest in Steem and moving their blogging activities to other rival blockchains.

Do you mean authors?

With this remark I get my share of future 50% :(


One important point we often ignore here is that neither Steem, Steemit nor any other dapp on here can exist without dedicated investors, investors who have a long term perspective. And who are such kind of investors? They are those who hold Steem power.

Therefore, as a way of providing incentives to SP holders, a 50/50 curation model is necessary. If investors can earn more from holding Steem, it is likely that more investors will come into the scene. And that could do some magic to the price of Steem in the long run.

My take is that these investors have enough reward already. They don't need even bigger percentage. In other words, they don't need to take even more away from other contributors.

Thanks for spotting the error. I meant authors not curators. I am correcting it right away. Also, thanks for your contribution. It is well received.

Dear @ervin-lemark

Thanks for dropping by and sharing your opinion with us.

Yours
Piotr

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