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RE: Getting Rich In Crypto Currencies, Real Estate, or the Stock and Option Markets (My Thoughts)

in #steem7 years ago

I think that saying you can't get rich trading stocks and options or in real estate is not entirely correct, you just have to hit a LOT more often than you miss. It seems like with crypto, there is huge volatility which can lead to huge gains, but also big losses. It all comes down to how you play the game.

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I said that you CAN get rich in Real Estate but that it will take a long time. You have a greater power of leverage with real estate. You CAN'T get rich in the stock and option market basically and why I'm saying this is because no one has ever done it. Sure you can hypothetically say that if someone guessed right on way out of the money calls or puts and kept winning before the options expired and was right 100% of the time for a couple of decades then it would get to the number but there is no way to do that and it has never happened. Most options expire worthless and the person has lost their entire investment on the trade.

So let's take hedge funds and mutual funds as an example. If they can average 20% / year for a couple of decades then that is considered an amazing track record. Warren Buffet averaged 20% / year stretched over decades but that is a totally different situation which I will go into a little later. But let's just use the 20% / year and say that a person is starting with $10,000. Well after year 1 the person has $12,000 after year 2 they have $14,400 and so on and so forth. If you keep working the number out they will die before they end up at multiplied millions even producing an average percentage that is almost impossible to maintain over decades. And with mutual funds and hedge funds they have the power to move the market they are trading so much. Trading $10,000 it is hard to diversify properly which further makes it unlikely to get close to the 20% mark.

Also another thing to consider is that with the stock market the low that it hit in March 2009 was actually lower than the low it hit in October 2002. In crypto the lows have never went lower than the previous low at least so far. So there is that risk with the stock market.

To address the Warren Buffet situation because a lot of people will say that he got rich in the Stock market. Well in 1952 him and Charlie Munger were loaned $100,000. That was a ton of money back then. It would be like a million or more now. They purchased Birkshire Hathaway which was a textile company which ended up failing. So it wasn't like someone today taking $10,000 and trading their way up. They had a large sum to start with and were buying entire companies, buying preferred shares, and dictating executive pay. That isn't something joe blow can do by having $10,000 in a Scottrade account.

This is outside my perimeters I defined of someone starting with $5,000 or $10,000 and trading their way up but a person could try to say that hedge fund managers got rich in the stock and option markets. Just because you could say they weren't rich but then by virtue of being able to trade hundreds of millions of dollars and taking a percentage of the earnings that could turn into multiplied millions. But that isn't the same situation. But yeah Jim Cramer was able to do that I guess you could say and averaged 24% at his hedge fund for a decade and you could say that took him from not being rich to being rich.

The point is that a person can't take $10,000 and trade themselves to multiplied millions in the stock or option market. The only way to conjure the number up would be like saying that a person could win the power ball jack pot 5 times in their life time. Technically you could say that it would be "possible" but it isn't going to happen.

It's not impossible, I know some guys who weren't even necessarily smart investors and hit it big off a weed stock but generally speaking your average investor isn't going to get rich off the stockmarket. Majority of professionals let alone your average investor underperform the market and most don't have enough money or leverage to make "get rich" money.

I would liken crypto to a safer way of playing penny stocks high risk high reward, however where as penny stocks are unknown companies who may or may not have any value we know cryptos have some utility and value.

Depends on Penny Stocks. Especially the Canadian and Australian Jr Resource stocks. Because Commodities go in cycles its not uncommon to see 10 baggers or 50 baggers over the course of a cycle. The only problem is as a Retail Investor who is not Accredited and can't partake in Private Placements and secure warrants you can be a large disadvantage. Marin Katusa, Rick Rule, Frank Guestra, Doug Casey, Ross Beaty, etc. There have been many fortunes made in the JR Resource sector. But the Crypto Currencies return wise have changed the game. Because literally the risk is whatever you put in and upside it limitless. They are nearly impossible to value because it based almost solely on the networking effect.

How to parlay $20k into $15 million speculating in junior mining stocks

The penny stock comparison is solid, hadn't really thought of that yet. And yes, there's always going to be the fact that good investors will outperform bad investors.

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