@sweetsssj is the largest abuser of last minute upvotes!

in steem •  10 months ago

Is anyone surprised?

Follow @abusereports to monitor last minute rewardpoolrapists like @sweetsssj.



@sweeetsssj consistently upvotes posts with $200+ rewards at the last moment to TRY to avoid flags while raping the fuck out of YOUR reward pool.

Example: $255 upvote with 13 hours left: https://steemit.com/travel/@helgachen/the-hofburg-palace-in-vienna


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@sweetsssj SP is the responsibility of it's delegators, Who is this person and what is his motive to still delegate to her after this much apparent selective rewarding?

A quick review of these 3 account show that they are controlled by the same person. @hendrikdegrote
@systema
@temet-nosce

http://www.steemreports.com/delegation-info/?account=sweetsssj

Has anyone tried or been able to contact the person behind @hendrikdegrote to let him know how his stake is being abused?

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

So why don't you just flag it then, that's what the 12 hours of only downvoting are for, no?

We have already seen all this shit about sweetsssj a ton of times now. You are taking the piss if you genuinely think that the answer to this is you getting paid 500 SBD from the reward pool for telling us all something we already knew, and that we lack the power to do anything about.

You have the power. So do it silently and stop raping the reward pool. You really have no reason to. If you want legitimate reasons to post that are worthy of rewards, I have no problem giving you ideas. I have many that would be good for someone like you. I wouldn't even want anything in return other than for you to stop taking the piss with these tiny posts that are full of shit we already knew, that are milking the reward pool unnecessarily.

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You've been here long enough to know that flagging is a complete waste of voting power. If I'm going to flag, you better believe I'm going to recover those lost rewards somehow.

Also, dummy, as you can see I paid for all of these votes and will likely not earn more than I spent to have this pushed to the top of trending.

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bernie will you check out this post I have done on @twitternomore here: https://steemit.com/life/@barne734/twitternomore-stealing-from-the-reward-pool
Somehow this profile is able to upvote their own post with only 200 Steem power and they receive around $9 SBD, how is this possible, I have around 700 sp and can only upvote myself around $0.21 SBD?

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The irony in this ...

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Yeah, no kidding! So @barne734, I think you saw my comment on the other thread that it's just a sock puppet account from nextgen622, who is the one voting the twitternomore posts up.

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Do you upvote a lot of things? Each time you upvote, it dilutes your future upvoting power temporarily. It's a little more complicated than this, but I think basically you recharge 20 100% upvotes each day. If you go over that, then it will take more than one day to recharge back to full upvoting power.

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try 20- 100% UV/day and lmk how that works out for ya ;)
It's 11 by my calculations. But the recycle period on that would be right at 24 hours so they say 10 votes.

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Doesn't upvoting someone else work the same as flagging? In that teh pool is fixed so by upvoting someone else you shift the percentage payouts?

I think the real problem on this site is that only a few people vote, most don't bother because they think their votes don't count (though they do in aggregate).

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When you flag you take away from one person, when you upvote you take away from everyone. Not quite the same.

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Maybe that's the question. How can people be encouraged to curate? My typical .001 curation rewards won't encourage it for returns, but people do it on Quora and Reddit for free because of engagement.

What's different? I really think if we had some sort of communities, it would help. The trending page is mostly crap, and if you're not interested in pumping the crypto of the day, it's boring. I've followed people who interested me, but most of them don't post that often because, you know, it's not worth it if you can't get exposure.

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This! You are so on point. The barrier to getting a post worth anything for anyone’s with under 1000 SP is really going to hurt and make it so those whales are now super powerful and we need to retool the site so we can handle when YouTube and other social media start losing users to us. I think there are a lot of tweaks that would make this destination numero uno for a lot of people. But there are certainly things holding it back like the utter powerlessness of a user like me who has 500+ followers but can’t get a blog above $1 no matter what I do, what I write about, how I tag it and what time I post it. If we had groups we would have microenvironments that people could become involved in and it wouldn’t absolutely benefit the platform and all users current and future as a whole. Without a doubt. Upvoted and Followed.

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Very well said have an upvote and follow me old mate

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How can people be encouraged to curate?

If I could ask you to take a look at my recent post titled 'Steemit: The Curation Leagues' - This is my method, I offer prizes for doing it!

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That's a great effort. Thanks for contributing.

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are you going to join the fun?

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Thats awesome man! At what point in a New Steemian career can they even offer that type of Blog contest or prize without at least having a good followings, reps, steem dollar/power/steem etc?

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So far I've fckin spent approx 40 quids in time, shuffling on steemit.
Now I've realized it's loads of sh
t I want my money back.

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Yeah, you can't get any visibility without votes, but you can't get votes without visibility. Obviously, the company line is you have to invest to power up, get a delegation, etc. I've also heard you had to produce qualify content, and that would certainly help, but judging by the trending page, it doesn't ALWAYS appear to be a requirement.

Seriously, you can get some traction without that by engaging with communities and promoting your work, but it's very tough because it takes a lot of skill, improvement, and endurance. That's why there are so many inactive users.

Anyway, I just throw a bit out here and there and hope that in a year or two the ship's still floating, and my account will be worth more. It's no get-quick-rich platform unless you enter into it funded with either money or a large base of followers.

This isn't necessarily a total criticism. My daddy always used to warn me that the world did not revolve around me. I'm just saying that people need to have the right expectations.

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Beautifully said. I am in that slow riding boat. I can see the trend that people who have a good following from youtube can make it good on steemit. Hence why Im gonna start doing more parody skits on youtube in the long run in hopes of building a fan base. Its gonna take a lot of work and time. I will do it for fun or else I will feel burnt out when I see no quick progress. It should not be a get rich quick gimmick, here on steemit or on youtube.

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You could promote instead of self-voting if you want visibility.

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So when you say that you will recover those lost rewards, what does that mean?

Sweetsssj appears to be recovering her lost rewards by upvoting accounts that cash out to the same account as she does, and I understand fully why you find this repulsive, because seems not just greedy, but also deceptive. But, at the end of the day, she's trying to recoup losses to inflation that this platform imposes on all STEEM holders.

  1. So, what's your method of keeping those rewards for yourself, and what makes your method morally superior to hers?

  2. And, if it is morally superior, why aren't you just teaching her to do it your way instead?

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We could make votes go down in value as posts age so day one votes at 100% are worth 100% but a last minute day six vote at 100% is only worth say 20%.

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Dang Bernie. You are on a crusade. I couldnt help but laugh when you called "son of satire" dummy. Simple non expletive language. I like. I know you are against people like haijin and trevonj. Saw an old post where you flagged Dollarvigilante. I know I will be a whale one day. How do I give back to the community and not become a greedy son of a gun?

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The squeaky wheel right? I value people pointing it out. We need people that will take abuse to express their speech especially in order to highlight issues in Steemit. We all want this to be a fair place so I have no issue with this post especially if there was time put in to research and not taking drone pictures of a beach and the luxury resort you are at paid for by pointless blogs. It leaves a bad taste. On that I will always agree and the community needs to stop pushing these single posts so high with SP delegation. Maybe the delegation is turning out to be too easy to use to game the algo. Was Steemit designed to do that or are what we see artifacts of a flawed idea?

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A good one here

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You have a point of view. on my own view @berniesanders on his part is a jealousy. because our lovely sexy sweetsssj must on a win win situation on her part. it's that's true @son-of-satire? just only my opinion?

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

I have read a few posts about @sweetsssj, it sounds like she has tons of accounts and uses @ned's delegation to upvote each, then sends all the rewards to the same Bittrex account.

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SHE IS NOT ONE PERSON, SHE IS A GROUP THAT HAS HIRED HER, AND PAYING HER FOR CLICKS, THE WRITEUP IS NOT HERS. THEY ARE MAKING BUG BUCKS ON HER. SHE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE THOUGH, YOU NEED TO FIND, THERE ARE MANY. FUCKUP IS YOU CANT SCREW WITH TEHM, AS THEY ARE WHALES.

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Obviously, I saw a documentary of how social media celebrities in china have whole teams. She is only the poster girl. Perhaps she doesn't even take most
of the money and very unlikely she even writes her own posts.

But she is not the biggest abuser as she stopped posting several days ago. She could be posting everyday but for some reason she stopped so that's weird. On the other hand there are several abusers who are flying under the radar and should be brought forward

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i dont wanna name but, have u seen 5-10 post of same member on the trending page? also doesnt show face in any of the post.

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I bet it starts with an "h".

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nope.. not haejin..

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Thanks for the info, I didn't realize @ned ended the delegation.

Nice meme XD

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Full disclosure.... I have @sweetsssj on my auto voter and have communicated with her a lot through comments on here but also I think what has been brought up is interesting as well.

In a self governance model that is transparent like this everything will be questioned for sure.

That being said I'm more on @sweetsssj 's side on this matter.

She had the resources to continue to produce content when STEEM was worth $0.07 and took a big risk in doing so. Where was I? I felt like I couldn't risk my time and was so pissed off at the platform because it seemed like something with huge potential that got drove into the ground.

In the end she seems real and like a nice person.

At the end of the day do we know everything that is going on with those accounts and who controls them? Not really. It could be friends, family, or employees.

Almost all the people on this Blockchain are looking to profit in one way or another. She has the resources and connections to make what most of us would consider to be extra ordinary income. I'm not jealous of that...... she is just on a bigger playing field at this given time.

The main thing that I think the argument carries weight is that the upvotes are coming in at the last minute which to me would indicate that she knew they would get called into question and might get flagged....etc But what if she would have just upvoted those up front? Would we have this same conversation.

All that being said I'm keeping my auto voter up for @sweetsssj at this given time but I think that everyone should make their own decision on what they want to do since different information is presented.

And no it isn't because I get her upvotes. I haven't been upvoted by her for a really long time. That is fine though....... I just look like an ADHD basement dwelling freak over on my blog.

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Ned never ate with me. :_(

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If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck

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Tasting gives a more reliable result.

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I'm new so I'm still not fully understanding this but looks like you've got some good points. If I do understand what Bernie is saying, she's taking advantage of the system and you are saying, she's using the system optimally. I don't know the knowledge to agree or disagree with anyone yet. But if she's creating content people are reading, that's good. It's what most social media is about. Yes there are plenty of internet "stars" making good money in sponsors etc.

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Well reasoned and rational response. I wonder when it will get flagged.

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So could someone contact the others who have delegated steem power to her and ask them to withdraw the delegation?

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NO BODY WILL DO IT..

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What this smells like, if I were a betting bot, is that these individuals are taking a similar stance to @transisto's recent defense of his involvement with the @zer0hedge account saying that cashing out SBD's is a "hedge" against prices falling, as someone who is heavily invested in SP. That in itself is an understandable position for someone to make as an investor.

These people delegating to sweetsssj in this case might be wanting to deflect the public rage onto someone who has already been seen flagrantly abusing delegations and the pool before with such behavior, so her public image can't really take a hit when it's already been destroyed, and they attempt to shield their own accounts from such accusations and save face while cashing out on the side.

Just a hypothesis. They'd probably rather be known as the cool guys who support cool things, not the people who upvote crap at the last minute to make sure their bags paid something out along the way. I can't blame them, just look at the flack sssj is taking right now.

Are the 2nd and 3rd accounts you listed even people? They're delegating out all their power and don't post anything.

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Even if they lower the time period within which you can vote, the abusers will just lower the timing of the votes as well.

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One of the reasons i love @berniesanders is that he always speaks for the growth of steemit and any fraudulent act or misconduct, he takes it so serious and for thes reason alone, i love what you are doing.

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Lol. Ignorant sycophant.

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Thank you for the post , very good

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

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Always knew there was something shady behind the One Inch Make up Face.

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Wow...how it can be recognized such action in the future? and is there any way to avoid that kind of things, sorry for such stupid question, I am really new beginner in this business @gonzo

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I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but the best way to avoid it, is to never click on @sweetsssj's posts.

Seriously, there are some things that you just can't unsee!

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Ha ha!

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What does using @ned do? Do a bunch of botts just upvote those? I read her posts and they're well written ...

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How did she get ned's delegation in the first place/his upvote power/whatever? Just wondered because I'm not really sure how it works but I'm intrigued as to how she got to such a position

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Well Ned visited her once.... sweetssj must be very sweet if you get my drift.

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you can buy bots to upvote your posts.

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I didn't realise you could do it to that degree! Thanks for the insight

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She didn't buy it. She got ned's delegation via ned.

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Oh okay! Thanks for the info!

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now, that is working the system to its full potential. dang!

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That is clever of @sweetssj

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

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beautiful picture of a girl I like

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

@berniesanders you should make a bot like randowhale (or make it bid based) where people can buy a flag but also have it so that delegators get a percentage of the profits received from transactions. You could also add a list of users that are blacklisted from being flagged by it (like say your accounts) or something. just an idea!

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I had thought about doing it but I do not have the infrastructure in order to run it and have a constant uptime etc.

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Please make the Flagging bot so at least new users can pay back whales who are abusing their power. I for one have a few on my list

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i dont wanna name but, have u seen 5-10 post of same member on the trending page? also doesnt show face in any of the post. @berniesanders

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Flagging this reply:
-abuse of your multiple sock puppet Steemit accounts used to upvote yourself
-unmerited rewards that you upvoted to yourself

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No one would use this bot. It literally burns money.

What profits would there be? Transactions? Do you understand how any of this works?

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Profits is a bad term in this case since you will not be making money. Minimizing losses is probably the closest to what he meant.

The transaction that he is referring to is the buying of the flag. It would technically be a service one is buying so transaction is a proper term for it.

He could have worded it better, yes, but for you to act like he doesn't understand how this works falls on your lack of understanding what he was trying to say.

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Maybe the people with large amounts of voting power might but there are some of us that do not have the voting power to fight abuse as much as we want and would be willing to use some of our SBD to actually help fight abuse.

My vote, for instance, is worth ~$0.26 (dependent on value of steem and how much is in the reward pool) and so when I see someone comment 13 times on one of my posts and each one gets upvoted to over $1 (and they are absolute spam shitposting) and I can't do anything to fight it, yeah I would pay to have that sh!t flagged.

As for transactions, a transaction doesn't cost money but buying a flag for someone elses post would definitely earn money, you know how many people I have heard talk about something like this? Asking if such a thing existed? Like I think your ~$40,000 USD account and rep of 70 has you sitting up on a high horse not realizing what its like for the little guys.

Profits recieved from transactions is if I send 1 SBD to the bot then it has a debit of 1 SBD ergo profit, say 100 people buy a flag with an average of 4 SBD a flag (400 SBD) then maybe the delegators would get say 50% of that split between them and the bot keeps the other 50% (just how randowhale and most other vote bots split it)

It is, by definition, profits. So I do not know what you are implying but I think you have a lack of understanding on how steem works.

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

It's very intriguing. After reading some of the comments, as well as this post regarding Steemit Wallet privacy, I don't know yet what to think. All of these issues won't even arise if we couldn't see where Steemians are transferring their money. I have friends I know who shared a Bittrex account since one of them wasn't acquainted with it and was afraid to lose his money. You know, exchanges became slow and glitchy at some point when many new users signed up. Another issue is having a fictitious name like h0x3xb33 and a picture of a b33? Then having a bulging steemit wallet? Exchanges already implement KYC. I think Steemit will also benefit from KYC (though we're not required since Steem is not a security but more of a utility) or Know Your Member policy since we deal with cryptos too.

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i dont wanna name but, have u seen 5-10 post of same member on the trending page? also doesnt show face in any of the post. nor replies

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

because it's money left at the table. A good business person will pick up every penny they can.

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

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It could very well be a male editor writing all of the stories for her.

Here's an interesting thread on a similar subject.

https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/769gsg/up_to_90_of_chinese_exchange_students_have_hired/

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its a group of people, not a single person.. she just gets some money.

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

Bernie follows you one month and I saw you found 3 or 4 members who abuse the upvote system of all, just because they have in their turn power than vote what result in the top of the page: sweersssj haejin.We have found one worse than the two above (msteemian)which puts the items copied 100 %, then invests 300-400 sbd them at the top of the page.I am little to do something but I think you know what needs to be made.Thank you so much, a good day IonutCiobanu

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Yeah they just posted today and upvoted that sucker huge. Big gamble. That is a little different, they didn't vote at the last second.

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

Here's the official list of Deli's for the @sweetsssj account, via screenshot:
delegators to sweetsssj.png
I left the url on it so you can verify, heck here's a clickable link ;)

@sweetsssj delegators

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

Its strange how some people ignore the logic just because they believe what they like to believe and ignore the truth

NO rappers pls!

STEEMIT VIRTUAL GOVERNANCE TAX PROPOSAL

  • IF A USERS HAS AN EQUITY VALUE OF 50K ABOVE, MUST BE TAXED BASE ON THE VOLATILITY PRICE OF STEEM TOKEN.
  • IF A USERS HAS AN EQUITY VALUE OF 50K BELOW, MUST BE EXEMPTED FROM TAX.

BENEFITS:

  • ACCELERATION OF PLATFORM DEVELOPMENT.
  • HELPS USERS AND COMMUNITY GROW.
  • ATTRACTS MORE INDIVIDUALS TO USE THE PLATFORM, THEREFORE ATTRACTS BUSINESSES AND CELEBRITIES.
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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

Isn't that the Asian chick who used to make like a $1,000 a day on here?

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She's making more than that. Ten $255 votes a day, $2550 in rewards, 37.5% SBD after curation is 956,25 SBD a day + the little accounts' SP gains that can be used to vote on themselves or other posts. That's more than 5k USD a day for sure, more than 150k USD a month, more than 1.8m USD a year if Steem prices stay stable.

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Holy shit, that's a lot of bread... is it all justified?

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In a community-regulated anarchy such as Steemit, everything is justified regardless of morals. The only thing left is the question "Do we want to accept this or do we, as a community, want to not let it pass and put counter-measures?"

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This is supposed to be a free and unregulated community, so I say just let the people decide via their flags and votes.

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Exactly, that's the way the community has to regulate its environment. Maybe new ways will be introduced later, but for now, it's all we have to fight against those who break the rules we set.

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how about us, minnows, beginners how can we fight back? and the safe way is to stay away from it or just ignore right?,, but it isnt right any abuse should be stop and all we can do (weaklings) is what?

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In a community regulated anarchy such as Steemit we already HAVE the controls... ;)

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it's allowed but that does not make it legal or fair

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I don't know, if she has the Steem power, she should be able to do what she wants with it, or else the Steemit witnesses will need to remove self-voting.

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

we should simply ignore it

@berniesanders, where can I find an explanation of why this behaviour equates "raping the reward pool" - upvoting posts with large rewards at the last moment to try to avoid flags while raping the reward pool ... I can't wrap my head around how this works ... any link to read an explanation ?

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There's not much to understand, she is voting at the last minute to try to hide the large amounts she is rewarding to (likely) her own sill accounts.

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Then maybe having some kind of sufficient KYC to prevent shill accounts would help here ?

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Ok, so the key here is that it's someone who controls several accounts, right ? Have you by any chance seen my question about steem delegating large chunks of SP (10000SP+) to people seemingly at random ? Could you please do a "Sunday class" on how is this ?

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Crypto are finite, unlike FIAT. There is a cap to the rewards that can be shared amongst all posts. The reward someone gets from his posts lowers when the SBD value drops or abusers do these tricks to get a bigger piece of the pie.

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I think you've mistaken this for a classroom.

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I don't know, in this case it looks like she's a shield for 700k delegated from others who want to cash out but have neutral to positive public images from their involvements with other projects.

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Is there any way to counteract their actions, and how can an army defend bad practices? Thanks...

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There is no way so far, since Steemit is not supposed to be regulated. It's like the wild west where the cunning and the bold get on top of things.

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Flagging your reply for
-abuse of your multiple sock puppet Steemit accounts used to upvote yourself and unmerited payout.

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Yeah i am wondering about this aswell! How can someone influence the reward pool.
Can someone explain this? Also i got a "User not found" account deleted?

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Crypto are finite, unlike FIAT. There is a cap to the rewards that can be shared amongst all posts. The reward someone gets from his posts lowers when the SBD value drops or abusers do these tricks to get a bigger piece of the pie.

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Thank you for clearing that up!

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

i just recently joined steem, although I have been following the site since it’s inception. I have watched sweetsssj from the start and she inspired myself and numerous others to join the steem community.

Her along with other hard working steemers, inspired the creation of steem marketing which is a group of marketing professionals working hard to promoting steem and helping new steem members grow. How many people here can honestly say they are working to help steem grow not just earn for themselves?

This is an individual who dedicated herself and her time to this community. As another said previous she has been doing this since steem was pennies. The quality of her posts and her amazing dedication to community engagement has not fluctuated since day one.

It’s thanks to members like her that steem is where it is at today.

She has been nothing but kind and gracious in helping others, which more than most leaving comments here today can say.

It’s this simple…. THE RULES ARE THE RULES… YOU HAVE A WINDOW of TIME TO VOTE IN! i don’t care if it’s the first minute or that last that is what the window is for.

I am very disappointed by this post and some of these childish comments. It’s actions like this that will tear this community apart and bring it to it’s demise. I really don’t want to see that happen.

Lastly I am assuming all the flagged comments are people like me with good things to say which is weak! You made your point let others do the same. Both sides should be heard here!

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

Holy shit. $805 SP in curation awards last week. WOW

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

@sweetsssj's SP is possibly the responsibility of dudes/dudettes, maybe whales, having a thing for Asian women (not that there is anything wrong with that).

I don't know what are they doing. @sweetsssj and @ned is our sinior and Newbies have much to learn from them. If they abuse what will learn newbies?

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

Fuck that bitch.. nobody cares about her trash life anyway

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wow that escalated quickly

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I’d upvote if she posted nudes tho..

I would never argue this behavior is either beneficial to Steem, because its not, or that its ethical, because common sense seems to point otherwise.

That being said I don't know how this can be fixed, at least in a permanent more sustainable way with the way Steem works right now.

It almost seems unfair to expect a Steemian whale to use all of his/hers voting Power to combat Self Voting Abuse, because as anybody who cares to understand how the system works, there are no curation rewards for flags. Yet... in order for it to be sustainable for a Whale to combat abuse, said whale has to self vote or he/she would be doing it 100% for free. We might attempt to make an argument for moral/ethical high ground displays, but then again its also too easy for anyone who is not leaving money on the table to have "altruistic/utopian" suggestions.

To me, it makes sense the code changes once again. It may sound like a pain in the neck to think about more hard-forks to Steem, but I see no other way to this fiasco. A separate pool for flagging is the only solution I see to the problem... That way, a whale with good intentions can continue to curate good content, while also providing a lets say "cleaning" services to Steem's blockchain.

Can this lead to power abuse? Maybe, but I'm inclined to think it would level out eventually, as we have more than a few ethical people with big SP holding on the platform as well, who care what happens to Steem, but simply can't say they are going to become the Steemian Mother Theresa until the unethical behavior subsides to acceptable levels.

If there is anything we as a community should be pushing, at least in my opinion is that, a second VP for flags and maybe the implementation of Vote Negation as well.

Is there a better solution? Please somebody share, I'm willing to learn.

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There is no solution without verified identity and equal steem power for all. Then you lose decentralization for that. You csn always make another account and vote yourself that way.

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There is no solution without verified identity

Sounds like you undermine the very essence of cryptocurrency.

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I am resigned to the idea with potentially annonymous members can always have a member that acts as if this member is any number of members. I take exception to you saying I undermine the " essence of cryptocurrency" though

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The problem here is actually the code itself--it has to be modified for real--otherwise all these systemic abuses would still continue to exist even if there will be an identity verification in place.

equal steem power for all.

This will only bring down the price of STEEM as there will no longer be any incentive for investors to hold large amount of Steem Power.

How about put some limitations to their power instead?

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So sign up 100 times? Oh yeah with identity that would prevent that. A Steem limit and identity.

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So sign up 100 times?

That shit happens everywhere and all the time even in centralized platforms. I used to have 3 Facebook personal accounts but now deleted the other two.

You can create as many Facebook Pages and Community Groups you want! Currently have 2 for my own and other two for client!

Used to have more than 5 email addresses but now retain at least 4.

Again, identity verification is not the solution and is not the ideal approach in a world wherever privacy is at the heart of it.

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"It almost seems unfair to expect a Steemian whale to use all of his/hers voting Power to combat Self Voting "

Doing so is just a reverse form of communism, where only the "rich" have to pay the price for the proletariat.

"A separate pool for flagging is the only solution I see to the problem..."

I've noticed this hasn't been very popular the several times I suggested it. It literally got me flagged by the supposed anti-abusers.

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I had no idea you caught a flag for making sense yet again. You know, truth be told, its hard to come up with a perfect solution to these problems, to me the solution is any has to be coded.

Like you've said plenty of times code is law, if its not in the code, then there is little we can do about things we disagree with, that might be a hard pill to swallow, but it seems to be an observation more than an opinion.

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A separate pool for flagging is the only solution I see to the problem

I second this! In fact I talked about this possibility in the previous shit shows involving @haejin. My take is to do it in a democratic way such as community voting through a some form of electoral college system to give every community sector/tag an equal voice.

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

thanks for sharing

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I think the community needs to stop upvoting people who create such useless content. I’m sure some people like it but it’s totally ridiculous the amount of money my blog will make compared to others who literally are just using Steemit, and it’s users and algo to make bank for Instagram2.0. Don’t want/need it. Let’s break the mold not endorse its casting.

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bernie is Zuckerberg's boyfriend. He's protecting Facebook's interests by making sure SteemIt becomes ShitIt. :-P

Look at his comments and you'll see how he uses 13 bots to keep rewarding his bullying comments, over and over again, thus scamming every Steemian out there.

The proof of bernie's scam is here: https://steemit.com/@berniesanders/comments

agree with you

I have to agree with you for once, maybe these bots are not so great a bit of a double edge blade some might say...

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This has nothing to do with bots, this is just trying to hide last minute reward pool rape.

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