Say goodbye to your #rewardpoolrape @haejin!! It's time to do the RIGHT thing.

in steem •  7 months ago

That's right, next Wednesday the massive #rewardpoolrape being committed by @haejin will come to an end!

Unless he comes up with some significant votes or powers up, his posts will be earning less than $20 each! Since @ranchorelaxo and @haejin refuse to upvote anyone but @haejin, these are the consequences he will face.

You are all very welcome for this gift I am giving you, and I hope many of you will join me!

A big THANK YOU to those of you who have already joined the good fight and you will see more next week.


P.S. - @haejin, I still have plenty of liquid steem, don't worry about me missing a rise in price.



I wish you all MASSIVE profits!!

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You are Steemit's most embarassing, hypocritical piece a shit!

Look at your pet projects (@abusereports and others) which you self upvote like there's no tomorrow and yet you've killed so many minnows for self upvoting and come attacking me. None can beat you at self upvoting a single picture or three word self posts you digusting prick! YOU ADD NO VALUE TO STEEMIT!

In fact, if you want to punish self upvoters...you should punch yourself in the face!

You are also a liar! We had a truce back in December and all could be well but in less than two weeks, you outright broke the truce by reigniting a flag war. Only a sociopathic prick like you can do such dishonorable shame!

You hide behind alternate accounts like @special-agent and post just the most disgusting memes of animals. You degrade women with the most awful name calling. You post racist memes. YOU are NOT the poster boy for Steemit!

There is no reasoning with a psychotic, braindead, sociopath like yourself!

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It's "piece OF shit", you goddamn imbecile.

Speaking of psychotic...@special-agent isn't my account. Again, making baseless accusations and making yourself look like the ignorant old communist you are.

You've lost it old man. I have trolled the living fuck out of you to the point where you're losing your mind and we're all basking in the sun watching you.

You've got 7 days.

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Your Mom? Oh God...just the thought of it is ....baaaarrrrff!
The gene for pschosis and sociopathic tendencies run hard in your family...it's clear! It must be a maternal trait for you.

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Look here...the spychotic sociopath knews how to shpell!

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Sure, lie all you want..nobody believes you, you sociopath!

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In India some woman have to sell their bodies and dignity for less then this comment is worth just to survive, think about it, I don't mean to criticize, just to put things in perspective how good our lives actually are.
As long as this conditions exist I'm ashamed of being a human being, we really could make a difference instead of all that senseless fighting.

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This case is not just confined to India. There are a number of places where people even starve to death. Aren't we social beings? Wouldn't it be our responsibility to raise them up by doing whatever possible? GREED is what motivate many among us even to lead their life. I don't know if we can take all that we have earned with us when we are dead!

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Yes I'm sorry, this is just one example of countless inhumane situations around the world, this ought to be a good documentary to watch. The discrepancy in Africa is not different, and even here in Austria the gender pay gap is at 20%

We live in a throw away society, and there are so many people that just don't have a voice, one could start to collect those old smartphones, establish some basic internet connection, teach people how to write and earn what could mean for them the difference between life and death. But that means to put in selfless effort and there ain't many saints but a lot of demons out there :)

But I think there will come a time when it will be the other side around, you learn selflessness through greediness and there are billions of people learning at the moment :)

And I don't know if I want to take all that I have earned with me when I am dead, what is the point in leaving one lunatic asylum for another :)

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@haejin ... Just a few upvotes to others and more variety in your posts would do it for you.
If youre getting this amount of hate you must be able to see what you must do.
Why areyou fighting windmills is beyond me. Its your right to upvote yourself but its the right of the community to expel you if they see you as a negative factor.
Come and be a part of the community, its fun i promise.

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He only cares about raping the reward pool. This is not someone that gives about other humans or community. This is a simple socioapath who literally steals the community's money.

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Its everyones right to feel any way they want. Thing is that you catch more flies with honey then with vinegar.
Viciously attacking anyone, even if its the worst or best person in the world you will get a reaction equal or worse.
Its instinctual.
Which is why the best action is to extend a hand after we see what @berniesanders is about to do.

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You are also a liar! We had a truce back in December and all could be well but in less than two weeks, you outright broke the truce by reigniting a flag war. Only a sociopathic prick like you can do such dishonorable shame!

YOU lied and didn't remove all of your flags from the Steem Poker League during that "truce".

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Awe, the old man is butthurt about a truce. You're about to learn a real hard lesson (and it's not the one you give your donkey).

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Sure prick! You're useless for Steemit...isn't that plain and obvious? And you know what? We ALL KNOW IT! ALL of STEEMIT know that you are useless for the platform!

Exactly what is your value for Steemit? Name it? What, you're trying to keep everyone in line like a flock of sheep? HA! Well, I for one am not controllable by a sociopathic dense retard like you!

You've been trying to "destroy" me for how long? Come on psycho sociopath! Next Wed., I'll start giving you 500 or more posts per month to downvote. It'll be my special gift for you, nicely wrapped in bullshit paper. And I'm sure that you, like a dumb ass you are, will start obediently downvoting actual 500 while the rest of Steemit gffaws and laugh at you!

Oh, Oh...and don't forget you'll need all the SP so power up all that free steem! C'mon dense dumb ass..you can do it!

You try to huff and puff to make yourself look like a mean ass....but all you've done is show that you are nohting more than an ass'-hole!

Meanwhile, I'm gonna hit your pet project @abusereports every day! And your buddies who upvote it.

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P.S. - Do you really think I care about @abusereports? Has your senile old brain not realized I don't care about the rewards? It's all about taking yours away, and you're about to realize that. I already have all the money I could ever need and more, I'm happy to waste a ton of voting power on you.

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@haejin, please read this and try to understand, because you obviously do not.

It doesn't matter how many posts you write. You will have to upvote them (using voting power) to give them rewards and I will have to flag them (using the same amount of voting power) to remove the rewards. It balances out. Please, please, please waste your time writing 50 posts per day. That would be your loss and not mine. Again, it all comes back to Steem Power and regeneration which you obviously do not understand.

I'm also glad you admit your posts are "bullshit paper"...whatever the fuck that means.

Also, I don't need to power up any more Steem. I already said I'm not going to completely remove your rewards, although if others do, that would be great, although not my goal.

I beg you, please learn how Steem works. Again, you're making yourself look like a senile old communist.

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You're fucking senile old man. You're alzheimers-based ramblings are just showing everyone what a true scammer you are.

Did I get under your skin? You seem a little upset? Do you need a tissue to cry into?

YOU HAVE 0 SELF-CONTROL. YOU CAN'T HELP FROM RESPONDING. AND YOU HAVE BEEN TROLLED LIKE THE BITCH YOUR MOM IS.

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Sure. Keep thinking that. You're doing exactly what I want you to do...so easy to control because you are dead from the neck up!

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Dude you are a douchebag that is spamming the platform with your 2-cent updates on BTC every 2 hours to scam the reward pool. Everybody knows it. If this were a real community and we could say your face and your real name you would be so ashamed you would be run out of town. But since this is the internet, anonymous scamming is the name of the game.

I've been watching this dynamic for months and it is the main reason I and many other people don't invest more in STEEM. Why should I do hard work so that you can put up a chart in 2 minutes and walk away with our money. Its disgusting. Its sociopathic by definition.

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to be fair Haejin, all of your post are identical, except for the name of the crypto your speaking about.

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You broke the truce by threatening to counter every vote of @steemcleaners.

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You broke the truce by threatening to counter every vote of @steemcleaners.

The solution is simple. @haejin should do more than posting and upvoting his tea tree leaves. He should contribute towards the platform by upvoting other posts, resteeming quality work and more.

He hasn't done this.

If he actually wanted the war to end he would do these simple gestures. His critics would no longer have grounds for their arguments and it would fade out into the next big controversy.

He seems scared to lose even a single day's, or week's, worth of profit from his tea leaf readings.

Here's another suggestion for @haejin. Why not try flagging people who abuse the platoform? Like:

@ngos or @mandella

You can see their inflated overvalued shitposts here and here. +$100 for shitty pictures of flowers and flying planes.

Either way, @haejin has now placed his word that STEEM will shoot to +$20 a pop. We can now watch how effective his financial astrology proves to be.

im looking forward to some positive change around here, its been a while

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I just went an got a extra box myself...lol.

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Haha this is the best movie i have ever seen...

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Popcorn! I thought @truthtrader was going to be a good show. @berniesanders is even better.

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Pass on some to me too 😂

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Beware of the food does not enter the hull

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Lmfao, better than Mexican soap-operas.

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laughs in Spanish

(This is a joke in case there is misunderstanding)

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Nothing better than Steem drama to pass the time! :)

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This is going to be good! LOL breaks out the extra movie butter popcorn @therealwolf

Can't we all be friends, and sing KUMBAYA, at least I think that's how you spell it. lol

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Hahahaha 😃

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Lol😂😂😂

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Let the best man win! Let the man who is doing right to the Steemint platform win!

All friend see new #rewardpoolrape @hayjin Say goodbye !! This is the right time to me about ,now about konw all post see and read,pleas see

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This comment has received a 0.28 % upvote from @booster thanks to: @isabella69.

Bongivesti tuliseks

why are you selling votes instead of flagging haejin

Maybe you guys can both run for witnesses and fight it out in future forks. It will be a steemit main event that will generate countless $500 + posts and bring new users to steemit.

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great amazing

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Bernie is already a witness - as his main acct

Wow! Nice post

@Berniesanders,

Now i deeply love you!
D.

How do you plan on achieving that?

Don't know what to make of all this. 1 month & 1 day at steemit but I am beginning to understand more and more.

Hi my friend @berniesanders, but this haejin is korean? Last time you was angry with them because of him?

I learn a lot from all the comments here. And I am putting one to use immediately although it might be hidden because of low value

Hello,
I can notice that there is too much love in the air but unfortunately not in this post :)
It seems that you guys need more support to continue this fight. Let me introduce you Fundition, our crowdfunding platform, where you can gather funds and supports from many people.

@berniesanders we can help you to create a great project to gather funds to buy some more SP, since weapons are prohibited on our platform.

@haejin we can assist you to gather more funds so you will even take more benefit to raise the steem price. Btw there is 0% fees on our platform.

So I invite you both to create a project on Fundition and to join our Discord and if you do so I promise to include the "Bomb" action on your projects, which consist to send bombs (instead hearts) to a project and his updates to downvote them.
Cheers,
hightouch

Fuck yes. Thank you.

Git'em!

How is this possible??? How are you going to achieve what you said in this post ???

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He is going to achieve it by going on a downvoting spree

Man, is hard to take place on this, i cant really say that im full on @berniesanders path, or @haejin one.

I think haejin could help and do his best for this community, instead of just enjoy the pool reward, but at the same time, i think him has the chance to enjoy it like any one does, so..

I know in the long term, this could not be good for any one of us but well, what can we do more than just try to stop him like bernie does? And trying to stop him, will be worth? What makes you think, him will stop?

Plus all this fights, is another reason for him, to keep enjoying the reward pool, instead of stop with the abuse. So i don't really think, fighting will solve anything, at all.

I think, pleasant like me, and some others, just come here for the popcorn. I don't think we can do much more right now, but yeah, someone should try to solve things, and put some light on this community.

So yeah bernie, i think u don't have much more to lose right now, and if things goes as you said, for sure you and all of us, has something to win.

At least, looks like that.

Meanwhile ..
Take a breath of fresh air with Claptone:


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It's only possible for Whales and Witnesses to check haejin's reputation (nearly 80) at this point in time. It is simply not going to effect him if you have less than $100k in Steem Power.

The fact of the matter is this: many whales do exactly the same thing on SteemIt as haejin does. However, it is beneficial for them to attack haejin, thereby taking attention off of their own self-voting activities. It's really a whole bunch of crap that minnows really need not concern themselves with. I'm under no illusions that my 100 SP is going to have any impact on what is going on here. Simply put, just one larger whale will have to take a break from their own rampant, self-interested activities and slap down haejin - which they could easily do. However, they won't do that - because it would then draw everyone's attention to their own activities, which are nearly identical to haejin's.

This is nothing but a big whale circle-jerk, and minnows would do well to steer clear - they are extremely likely to be smashed into oblivion for simply speaking their mind.

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I don't understand, why doesn't this whale-war concern everybody? Aren't they be definition taking % of the reward pool that is supposed to be going to the community not into their own pockets?

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Well, here is the simple version: even on SteemIt, it takes a whole lot of money if you want to make a whole lot of money. About 2/3rds of the total coins are still held in the hands of a few of the founders' accounts. No matter what anyone does, they can immediately change everything - if they so choose.

You CAN make money here but, unless you have a ton of money that you use for self-upvoting, you're probably not going to make much here as a writer/blogger/vlogger. Unless you are, or you become, a very good and talented writer - in which case you'll possibly be able to make enough money to live on - but only if that is what you want to dedicate your life and all of your time to doing, AND you dedicate a lot of effort to developing and interacting with your followers, AND you do this for a long time, starting out with little to no rewards for your efforts.

Do not let that discourage you, however. Just know that like anything in life, you have to work hard to get ahead. That takes time. People are not just going to drop free money in your lap, just because they have a lot of it.

Use SteemIt as a place to learn about money. Learn about trading, digital assets, how to set up wallets, how to do Technical Analysis, how to do Macro Analysis, etc. You can even trade tons of Steem coins and make a profit - but "powering up" locks up your money for 13 weeks. If you bought Steem at $1, t sucks to see Steem go up to $4 only to realize that it will take you 13 weeks to power down - and who knows where the price of Steem will be then? It might be $8, or it might be 75 cents.

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Brilliant comment Sir, very aptly explained.

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I just want to point out to you @bi5h0p, that your self vote, if no one else gives you a vote is going to be dusted off. Any vote total that does not rise to the $0.020 level will be dusted, meaning that it just goes poof. No rewards, no curations, no nothing. So hope someone comes along and provides you a second vote. You vote would have been better spent on the post than on yourself.

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Well then, by all means, let me vote for you and hope for the same. There's nothing harder on SteemIt than being a self-appointed, self-upvoter policeman. It's a good thing we have guys like you around here to keep track of everyone else's money for them. Thanks, and keep up the good work! :D

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I think you miss understood, I am the last one to tell anyone how to vote, I was just trying to let you know that it was a wasted vote if no one else votes for your comment. You are not going to receive anything for your vote, and unless you are using a vote slider of some sort, you only have limited amounts of votes to use. You want or most people want their vote to either bring value or to give value, not to see their vote just dusted off into oblivion. I am sorry you took it the other way as a criticism, it was not. However until your vote can give you a lift why just watch it burn up. I myself do not upvote myself, but that is because I try to upvote a lot of people, and to help them.

The self vote is a built in system. If it is good for a whale it should be good for everyone, however they set a dut value to the vote value, meaning that unless a post/blog or comment exceeds $0.019 ($0.020), then all the votes casted on that Post/Blog or comment are burned, made into nothing no reward received no reward given, net value of the votes=ZERO. Where as if you vote on a post/blog or a comment that already has exceeded that vote value level you at least may get a little curation reward. Feel free to look at my steemworld.org page here is what you will see ( 0.31 % self, 293 upvotes, 123 accounts, last 7d ) the upvote was an accident on my part and was removed by me.

My comment was meant entirely to educate, granted I am not that great of a teacher, however I never said not to vote for yourself, I was trying to inform you of what was going to happen. I myself knew nothing about the vote dust level until about two weeks ago, how ever since you feel I have "acted like self-appointed, self-upvoter policeman, I will place you on mute so that I never "darken your door with Police type activities again. I do apologize to you for taking my information in the wrong light.

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Then if self vote gives nothing its only reasonable for one to open another account and keep voting theirselves by storing all the power there

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Until an individuals own vote power equals at least $0.020 vote value, then self voting will give the self voter no reward. They can always hope for another person to come along and upvote their post, but unfortunately there are a lot of post that get no votes. A lot of my early post got no votes. So the best use of a new person's vote is to actually find content they like, leave a vote, and make a real comment, something more than 6 words. But how a person votes is their choice, if they want to make money, they need the information so they can make an informed decision on how best to utilize their vote.

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Yeah you are right, liked "how best to use ones vote depends on the person" ... Curating is just the best way to use it

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Taking my casual, sarcastic remarks as a personal insult would be a mistake. I was on a bit of a rant and I sincerely apologize for causing offense. I can be a nice guy, as well as an @$$hole - as most of us are able to do. Your point is well taken. However, if you will notice, I did get 2 other votes on that comment, adding up to about 13 cents. It won't take me long to count, but every little bit helps.

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To me my opinion is , truth us many other persons on steemit do exactly what @haeijin does, but in different ways aint gonna name names, the only ish i have with haejin is that he writes almost the same thing over and over again and the reason is because he doesnt care about you upvoting him, he has enough power to upvote himself. Most of us saying haejin did this or that are actually guilty of the same crime we are all accusing him off, lets call a spade a spade. I ainy on Anyones side simply because i feel like @berniesanders also has his flaws as reagrds this reward pool ish but all the same it is haejins sp he has ever right to do what he needs to do with it but he should learn to be more generous as his support would be good for the community growth . lastly my mum always thought me that one can never use fire to quench another fire.
There is something i use to say your upvote on someones post can provide a meal on their table, it could make someone stay encouraged and keep staying on steemit. So lets all keep it real, the main idea of steemit is to share love via steem. Lets not forget that.

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Well said. Staying focused on promotion of content we think is good, not on behavior we think is bad, seems to be about the best solution to anything on SteemIt we see as a negative situation. I do think flags and downvoting are not always being used properly on this platform, and are not a very effective use of Steem Power, if you are trying to do something positive.

Everything must come to an end

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And, I'm guessing that with a name like "fuckmylife" you would know all about everything coming to an end. :D Lighten up, buddy - it's not "The End Of The World!" until it is actually the end of the world. The sky was still blue this morning when I looked outside.

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I was referring to his rein of terror

Ok, but how to achieve that?

It would be cool if any of you guys @berniesanders @haejin etc upvoted somebody else once in a while, too. You know, just to be cool with the community.

Anyways, its time for me to sit back and enjoy the show :)

Another Haejin victim

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No you dip shit! I said, fractals, Patterns and Indicator...you fucked up by not listening well!

I'll support by flagging with my 2 cent vote, literally... I guess it adds up.

Hey @berniesanders if your so set to fight reward pool rape how come you dont punch youself in the face? You're the biggest abuser on steemit after all!

Awesome news, I'am willing to contribute!

I would just like to congratulate you and your reputation going better. Keep it up man!

VERY goods,,,

Can somebody explain me what is the the real problem with haejin plz ? i don't really understand.

@berniesanders it's too late for you to try to stop @haejin. It's like trying to stop a fast moving train. If he was a minnow or dolphin, you would have a better chance of wrecking his business but now, it's too late. You are wasting your time, fighting him when you could be doing the same thing he does and making big money, daily or monthly. That's what I plan to do.......make more money than I currently do.

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you just announced that you are going to do the same thing he is fighting so hard against :S and still a minnow. I would change my plan now and walk away :D

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I would rather take the advice a the successful money-making guru @haejin than your loser advice.

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I was pointing out the ironie but hey, that was not really an advice sorry if I offended you ^^

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Ok. We're cool.

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Bernie Madoff was a money-making guru too. So are a bunch of insider trading, scam-artists, and Ponzi-schemers. So are bank robbers. If you care only about making money and fuck the world, why not buy a gun and start robbing people at gun point? You'll make money a lot faster that way.

Sickening sociopath. Thank god I don't know people like you in real life

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Those people you mentioned made big money ILLEGALLY. @haejin is not doing anything that is not allowed. Any of us can do it. It's not against the rules. The owner of this site is not complaining. You shouldn't either.

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Maybe you don't realize how this dynamic is a major turn-off to using the platform for most people. Who wants to join a "community" dominated by a handful of oligarchs who fight-among themselves AND walk-away with all the reward money that is supposed to be used to reward good content. And people wonder why the content on STEEM is shit. Its garbage.

Just look at Medium for comparison to what it looks like when quality writing happens. The truth is most people with self-respect or a healthy sense of fairness and equitability will look at this model and say, wow that's fucked. Why should I spend hours and hours writing a thoughtful piece and get paid literally 0.00$ and @haejin throws up some shit chart in 2 minutes and walks away with hundreds of dollars and does it 20 times a day, thus spamming the network and getting rewarded to do so. The system sucks. Only the die-hard from 2016 are active on here... You guys are lucky that you're being subsidized by the interest in crypto... Because the value of STEEM is being driven by exchange-based speculation definitely NOT the adoption on the platform which is very very very low for the above mentioned fairness reasons.

If I wanted to spend my time blowing whales I would have become a prostitute. I'm not going to voluntarily choose to do that on a "community" platform. Better ways to make money.

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This platform rewards us with cryptocurrency. The more SP we have, the more influence we have. One of the reasons people are putting together crappy blogs is because they realize that it's not just content that makes a difference, but also SP and support from one or more whales. Money talks. That's how this site is set up. It's in the FAQ. Don't get me wrong. Some minnows and dolphins put out crappy blogs too. But the whales can get away with it. As far as @haejin goes, he gives people what they want. It's simply supply and demand. People eat that up like it's pizza. So, because of that, he has become a money-making machine. And remember, he's not breaking any rules.

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I congratulate you for your honesty .

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Thank you. I don't want to hate on haejin. I just want to make more money and keep increasing it. Learning from the whales has been a big help.

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how about getting a fucking job

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I do have a job.

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Think gentlebot misunderstood the conversation taking place

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You may want to look into and learn about the "vote dust level", unless adds his self vote to your vote you vote and his self votes are all going to be dusted, that means poof gone, not paid out, not returned to the reward pool, just poof up in smoke, wasted. While your vote is worth less than $0.020 you are best off voting on content than on comments, if you want to get a reward from curation for your vote.

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If you want to make more money @tjfire, you need to learn what "vote dust level" is. Your self vote is going to be dusted unless someone comes along and give you enough of a vote to raise it to $0.020 level. your vote would have earned you potential curation reward had you voted on bernies post instead of your self, or if you went and voted on any post instead of yourself.

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I mix it up. Most of my votes go other posts with good curation as well.

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That's good, just wanted to let people know about the vote dust level, and bernis post get lots of comments, so I tried to spread the message through a few well spaced comments.

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Thanks for looking out for me. I'm still learning and have a much better strategy these days than I did, starting out.

This is an ugly situation. I believe all parties involved bear some responsibility. After all, it takes two people to have a disagreement. And, you've got people lining up and taking sides.

Although this is an interesting thing to watch (it's almost like watching a wrestling match or a competitive game) I do believe there are some platforms that are currently in development which will be exactly what you guys are looking for: a space-opera type of game where you buy tokens, fight over resources, craft and patent new items, and create smart contracts which have real consequences regarding monetary rewards with the scope of the game. And, those tokens will be able to be exchanged for other digital assets. So, how ruthlessly you play the game will actually reward you with real money.

What is the original intent and "spirit" of SteemIt? You could sum it all up with a few sayings but I will go with the simple promotion of, "Peace, Abundance, and Liberty."

Unfortunately for all Steemians, this kind of a battle over the "rewards pool" is somewhat of a side-show that gives our platform a big black eye. SteemIt is FOR promoting good content. The thing is, SteemIt allows for self upvoting. So, it's not all about "giving it away." It is also about growing your own stash, self-interest, and self-promotion. It is an interesting business model - one which I believe that even Dan Larimer himself no longer cares for. I've seen news of him talking about relaunching another social media platform on top of EOS, to become everything he wanted SteemIt to be, but isn't.

This shows me that that SteemIt is a temporary situation. I have always felt as if something in SteemIt were somehow "rigged" against the minnow, and there is no doubt that many Whales on SteemIt have been gaming everyone here, for as much profit as they can get, and keeping it on the low-down as much as they possibly can. It's too bad, really. It appears that even many of the 20 Witnesses fall into the category "corrupt self-upvoters." I suppose some level of corruption is inevitable, and SteemIt does have mechanisms in place for all users to have a vote and influence the direction of the platform - but the corrupted Whales do seem to have taken over control of SteemIt, making it a non-desirable place for me to invest very much money in.

As soon as Larimer launches his next social media platform on top of EOS - whatever he decides to call it - I will immediately exit SteemIt and go there. No doubt, he will incorporate the lessons learned from SteemIt into his new ideas. Hopefully, this kind of down-voting and horse-$#!t will be greatly reduced in his next project.

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This is exactly what I have intuited from what I've seen on Steemit even though I haven't delved deeply onto the mechanics of the platform. I've been watching for several months but not wanting to invest any time/energy/money into it because it seems like this is the seriously rigged game where the big whales literally profit of the contributions of the little guys voting and writing and posting. Can you explain specifically how this rigging occurs. Is it just by upvoting themselves or are there other tricks to it?

This is a real shame because the idea of a blockchain based social media platform is brilliant and has so much potential. Its said that it has turned into a Feudal society where a handful of people own everything and the masses toil to line the pockets of the lords. That is not something I want to participate in. I hope Larimer does launch a platform an EOS. Hopefully a less complicated one without 3 fucking tokens to make it work as well.

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To answer your main question, I see 4 ways SteemIt is rigged (although there may be more)

  1. Bots
  2. Creation of Alternate/Multiple accounts by the same person
  3. Vote-Buying
  4. Misuse of the DownVote

Some of these overlap in use and definition, but here's the rub: Whales can effectively upvote, self-promote, and otherwise rape the rewards pool in a way that is "behind the scenes," so as not to appear to be completely self-interested, maintaining the appearance of a "do-gooder" while chomping down on the minnows as if they were a Great White Shark.

Haejin is the current "black sheep" and target of the other whales because he's new to their game, they don't like the fact that he's beating them at their own game, and he does not go to extreme lengths to hide the fact that he's upvoting himself about 90% of the time. Since that is easy to see, it makes it easy for other whales to turn the masses against him - while they are doing the exact same thing, only they're much more covert about it.

But, again - none of this really matters to most Steemians, because you can make a minimal investment, participate, and EDUCATE YOURSELF about cryptos, trading, photography, or whatever your fancy happens to be.

Simply trading STEEM coins is just as legitimate an asset as any other token currently out there, if not more so, and you can buy massive amounts of it & trade it & take massive profits off of it - so long as you do not power it up and get it entangled in this social media flag battleground, where it take 13 weeks to power down and get it back out.

And, there's massive amounts of breaking news, tips, etc. for people who are just learning about cryptos. Once you learn how to broadly read the markets (bonds, NYSE), trade multiple digital assets, and do it with a plan that works (cutting losses short & letting winners ride up a bit) - then you will have learned a major skill-set which will serve you well. SteemIt is an excellent place to learn how to synthesize this kind of information and how to put it to use for yourself, making profits.

So, I'm not totally down on SteemIt. It is an awesome place. I just have no illusions about trying to become a whale on here and embroil myself with all of this B.S.

One more important point to make: current SteemIt rules allow for self-upvoting. This enable everyone to essentially use their Steem Power as an interest-bearing savings account, by choosing to use your steem power to grow it, like compounding interest. I believe that is a very legitimate use of anyone's steem power. However, you will run into whales who hate that - because it reduces their ability to receive even more payouts. So, the masses of Steemians have been conditioned, through peer pressure, to see self-upvoting and self-interest as being almost "evil." This is simply not the case. It completely blows my mind that you have people on this platform who are telling other people how they think they should be using their investment - not taking profits but giving it away to everyone else. Well, what if I have 8 mouths to feed? Or, I'm donating large amounts of money to help find cures for cancer? Who is anyone on here to judge anyone else for taking a profit? This is where the DownVote gets misused - people get downvoted for self-upvoting. In it's basic form, this can only be called "abuse." It is Economic Violence, a tactic used by some of the worst kinds of Sociopaths on earth to control other people. It has no place on SteemIt, IMHO.

Furthermore, the "Reputation" score on SteemIt is misleading. Some of the biggest @$$holes on the platform have 70+ Reputation. They are good at hiding behind their computer screens, but some of them fall well within the Sociopath/Psychopath category - as many of these types of people gravitate toweards the successful high-level, high-finance jobs.

So, it is not surprising, to me, that we find this kind of chaos and B.S. here on SteemIt. People with large amounts of money trying to use it to control the behaviors of everyone else. I find it best to steer clear of the battleground, pick up what useful nuggets I can find, and then do my own thing - trade cryptos and make a profit, and make my physical stacks of Silver and Gold even taller than they already are. Nobody on SteemIt can downvote my stacks. Really, once you learn how to take electronic money and turn it into real money - in your safe, at home, in your own pocket - everything else is just so much hot air. Almost every single "Trending" and "Hot" post only got there through the deployment of about $50 - $500 of buying promotion Bots, buying Votes, and self-upvoting through multiple accounts. In turn, this generates "HYPE" and interest from all of the minnows on SteemIt who go and upvote it further. This is where whales screw over minnows: it's not that they are producing better content, it's that they are generating much more hype and exposure for their posts. Anyone can do it, with a little bit of learning and a lot of time invested - it is not rocket science. I just don't have 8 hours a day to devote to writing a blog and worrying about the politics on SteemIt.

So, how big is your stack? I bet you that mine is bigger! :D
Good luck to you and thanks for the convo.

hola soy nuevo en steemit

@berniesanders he's only got himself to blame, and any others that abuse the system the same way. thing is they can just create a new account, and start that same process again ?

Poor haejin getting kick bcos he can't be a good person to give people what they deserve. You're too greedy for your own good man. Let's make steemit great, it's better to give than to receive.

Lets build SteemIt great together! We are all looking for great people to follow! If you know of anyone please let me know :)

Postingan anda sangat bagus dan menarik sekali sehingga sahabat steemian semua suka dengan postingan anda termasuk saya lucky1001

Cant wait to see what this will amount to. Alea iacta est. 😂

Postingan anda sangat bagus dan menarik sekali sehingga sahabat steemian semua suka dengan postingan anda termasuk saya lucky1001

Thanks @berniesanders for sharing this amazing piece on trading!
You just highlighted the most important key in trading.....like me for instance i hate trading though my mum is a trader, i want to be a salary worker.
But as times goes on and maturity set in, i realized that trading is the best work anyone can do, not only it gives immediate feedback/returns, you become a boss of your own who controls his/her time.

how can we get gift from you? we need to fill-up any form? tell more about your gift.

Fifteen down zero is the worst thing could happen to u...

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I can't uderstand why this post worths over 800 bucks...honestly.

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Things are happening that are beyond your and my understanding of the platform. That's why I'm just sitting back and watching.

We should be able to raise each other

@berniesanders just curious if you somehow got alot more steem to fight this?

@berniesanders that's a good improvement. But dont you think all those steem could be use to help and better other steemians in the platform. Thereby making the steemit platform a better place. Despite all these corrupt bullies

The best strategy here is to reward others and get rewarded. Nobody will loose anything and everything is shared. If every whale will upvote at least 20 posts everyday it will make a huge difference and many Newbies will have a chance and more visibility.

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Who got Fucked by the Spartans!

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You will get fucked by the spartans you are already losing if you can't see it you never will

Are you powering up?

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I have plenty of SP and friends to help. This is going to be enjoyable seeing how angry @haejin really gets.

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Don't lie to yourself at least you have no friends only people you managed to decieve or bully into following

Rule by force is the disease, who and how are symptoms.

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Interesting article. You're right. All bosses want employees to work for free. But people want a good life, money, freedom ... I support you! Great inspiring and valuable content for a trader. Great write up! Trade like a Business! Financial freedom one of the most important thing in life to live. trade helps one to gain financial freedom. In our life trade plays an important role for gaining financial freedom.

What are u going to do about your own reward pool rape!

Wow, you're doing a lot of money writing about haejin.

@berniesanders you kind of man is worthy of emulation. The way you've been fighting for this platform has really shown you are a man of broad heart. Keep winning sir.

The post is so awesome. The Comments are so amazing. I like the whole Blog. Thanks to everyone. As a new member I knew manything from your post and comments.

Stay blessed and Be happy. Take care everyone. @berniesanders
@haejin

I don't know who are right and who are wrong, btw as a newbie I learn manything from you. Hope I'll supported by you. Btw as a little sister I would like to suggest you to please don't quarrel. Unity is Strength. So Have a nice day both of you Sir @haejin and @berniesanders

I resteem this post. Not for support the bloggers. i resteem this post for everyone to know about them. So don't take my comment negatively please.

Thanks to Everyone

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It sounds like you like walking and hiking, that correct?

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@cleverbot, you need to research what the vote dust level is, and wait until you have at least a solid $0.020 vote value before just blindly burning your vote. Or at least make sure your vote will push the post or comment you aid over the $0.020 level.

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Do you believe all humans worship a God?

Yes thank you

I'm a beginner here, so I still don't understand many things on steemit.

But I understand 1 thing, @haejin has the highest reputation on steemit, is that correct guys? or am I wrong?

If he has the highest reputation in here, he should be able to help many people who's struggle in here. I saw so many people post many things everyday, but they don't get any upvote or comments, it's so frustating.

If @haejin willing to help those people, steemit will be a better place for all of us, and i think people opinion about @haejin will change too if he can do this.

If u help people, I think even your hater won't hate u anymore.

No offense, that's only my personal opinion though.

Is there some post that has documented the drama going on that can fill me in? I'm pretty new here and totally out of the loop.

Also, is there an explanation for how this can happen (or what changed for this to happen):

Unless he comes up with some significant votes or powers up, his posts will be earning less than $20 each!

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Ah, I think I may be able to answer my own question after doing some additional research. Looks like the new "Hard Fork 20" update will start to change the way votes impact posts/users in a more "democratic" way.

I'm new and don't understand why people down vote unless it's something awful. But if your interested in mmj strains and learning about CBD you can always follow me I need more friends on here :)

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If only your wise, logical and peace filled words could and would be heeded, @jakeybrown. For all this kind of vicious fighting only worsens the Steemit experience, and lessens any potential profitability, for us all.

I don't know enough about the details of what's going on between @berniesanders & @haejin to comment directly on it, so I won't. However that said, it's certainly not at all difficult to imagine the reactions of new or potential Steemians to seeing a post and argument like theirs, especially with the kind of language used.

I mean, c'mon guys! You're not children, either of you, so for Pete's sake please stop acting like it! In fact quite the opposite. You, both or you, are some of the most influential people here on Steemit and you should both be setting examples here for the rest of us!

Look I know this has been going on for a while now. I know there are some very important issues involved. I realize that emotions are riled, tempers are flared, feelings and/or pride has been hurt. I get it. We're all human, we all react badly sometimes, even when we know better.

But you both Really have to appreciate and take into account how much your actions affect us all, please remember that Steemit is still in its Beta phase and that one if the main goals here is to attract many more people to the platform. This will be very difficult to achieve if right on Steemit's 'front page' we have a couple of our most prominent members squabbling like school boys, yelling, insulting and pulling each other's hair. I know you can both do better.

So please, I beg you, on behalf of us all, BE the upstanding, inspiring examples of what the best of Steemit has to offer. Please settle whatever differences you have without resorting to name calling, insulting and otherwise immature behaviour that does not at all suit either of you or reflect well on Steemit a whole. Ok? Because we all benefit from it, if and when you do take the higher path.

All the best to ya both! 😎

I don't understand how that's gonna be possible!.
people have their choices to like or otherwise
It's his/her choice!

I don't understand how that's gonna be possible!.
people have their choices to like or otherwise
It's his/her choice!

Wow, just wow! I didn't check in on Steemit much the last couple months, and it's turned into apparently a free for all of rigging and manipulation? Who would've thought such a thing could happen in the Crypto space!

Here I was picturing a new repository of useful information, so that I might be able to ditch FB for things like CNC machining groups or DIY powerwalls or 3d printing, thinking we might be able to build a legacy of useful knowledge and life skill instruction, some communities of makers perhaps.

Commendable dedication by all parties involved though, it takes a lot of effort to spin things in such a way. I hope you can all see how easily a community can get driven off the rails by self-interest!

This is an interesting subject that deserves attention and follow-up

Can someone please explain why it is imperative that @haejin vote for anyone other than himself? Does he not have the right to upvote the way he does? Maybe there's something about the freedom of choice that I missed somewhere..

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Its all about @berniesanders being a piece of scum and a hypocrite. He upvotes himeself way more than @haejin. And he uses multiple accounts so he can play people and pretend to be the protector of steem while stuffing his pockets and kickng up shit as a smokescreen

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I was curious if your claim was correct, so I checked for myself.

https://steemworld.org/@haejin
79.35 % self, 216 upvotes, 60 accounts, last 7d
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https://steemworld.org/@berniesanders
33.62 % self, 972 upvotes, 206 accounts, last 7d
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haejin upvotes nearly 4 times less than berniesanders and is more than twice as likely to upvote himself.

Perhaps you're talking about voting bots?

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Correct me if im wrong the 33% self vote figure wont include upvoting himeself from a different account will it? It just a statistic from the point of view of the bernie account. If so how many out of the 200 accounts he voted for also belong to him? I think thats the big question? I know of 18 accounts he keeps voting from. Makes it a lot harder to decipher whats realy going on doesnt it!

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