Commenting With A Kabbalist...

in spirituality •  20 days ago

I'll the link Kino MacGregor video here where I got into a discussion with the commenter Bruno.

He asked me what is new in Christian Gnosticism since the time of Egypt. Good question!

First I would suggest computer technology and especially how it relates to quantum mechanics as it relates to A.I. With this in mind, the first thing I would suggest is that computers give us reason to speculate on the simulation hypothesis--The Matrix. It was alluded to via The Akashic which was the first attempt at describing memory technology. So...it may mean that the common idea of a soul is in error and that the Archons who control the simulation also control our memories--or, use memory technology to manipulate us. This is the simplest explanation for the lack of any 'soul' evidence within the scientific sphere; it may also prove Daniel Dennett's theory that consciousness, as we think of it, doesn't exist! One would have to watch HBO's Westworld to get a handle on what I'm suggesting.

Modern E.T. theory. Our knowledge base now allows us to consider that God might not be God in the traditional sense but would rather be an extraterrestrial. It's not my preferred explanation but there are many modern Gnostics who hold this view.

The Academies knowledge of reason and logic. The Logos was refined in the past century and our understanding of logical fallacies and bias' are much more advanced. Confirmation bias, cognitive dissonance, and the Dunning-Kruger effect help us immensely in our quest for truth. As a Gnostic who identifies as being an Agnostic Gnostic I show respect for the Dunning-Kruger effect--I say I don't know when I don't know. I always frame my metaphysics as speculation when I'm talking about spirituality. I argue my spiritual beliefs using reason and logic to the best of my abilities. I should note that I don't believe reason and logic refute God but when applied honestly to the world's religious claims these faculties do refute normative religious beliefs--that is to say the world's religions are B.S...Again, this doesn't mean God doesn't exist it simply means God isn't found in these contradictory and irrational religions. The Gnostic view of God is logically consistent with this proper deconstructing of religion and is also consistent with the brutality of evolution.

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andrewmarkmusic1 week ago
FWIW: the first yogis were Gnostics who correctly understood that this earth is a prison. If I suggested to you that you should go to university to study and at the same time wipe your memory you would correctly assess me as insane. This is the human condition set up by the Archons of the Demiurge who created us to be slaves. Lucifer who is not Satan is the chief Archon of this age and most people in their quest will come across this entity. Ultimately the light that Lucifer brings is deceptive because human-will (the foundation of Lucifer's oeuvre) can never be God although this will be attempted (immortality of the human will in a machine) as the A.I. control grid intensifies. Peace:)
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Bruno Paulo1 day ago
Correct, Lucifer in its literal meaning is 'bearer of light', a title also given to Venus/Mercury as the morning star. It is not present in the Bible, it was a later development, a negative one, we might say. However, the negative portrait of the Demiurge in the Nag Hammadi gospels should not be taken seriously or literally, unless one goes to extremes and says that the material world is an error and evil, which one is free to do so. The Demiurge, known since the time of Plato as being none other than Zeus himself, created this world based on the divine archetypes, which, being perfect, could not be replicated, i.e., this world could only be less 'perfect'. This later rendition of the Demiurge drew from orphism in that the body is the grave yes, but as a myth it should not be taken literally. This world might not be perfect and evil from a higher POV yes, but we are born in it, and grow from it, and this world and the body can be the gates to heaven too.
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andrewmarkmusic1 day ago
@Bruno PauloHi, Bruno...It would be pointless for me to argue my views on this with you. I can prove beyond any reasonable doubt that this existence is error and evil but you would most likely reject the evidence which is, of course, your right.  The first Yogi's understood what I'm saying. The Dvaita Vedantist's understand what I'm saying. Many exoteric religionists understand what I'm saying although they misinterpret who the Archons are and the deceptions wrought by them over millennia and longer.  I reject Kaballistic Luciferianism especially when framed within a non-dual oeuvre whose practitioners are implementing a will to power through control of the money supply creating the largest usurious casino in the known universe.
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andrewmarkmusic1 day ago (edited)
@Bruno PauloThis is a start if you are interested: https://youtu.be/KbQQ6MSP7kwMany of the world's scientists correctly assess evolution as being incredibly brutal...The theistic ramifications of this are significant. But the yogi's are incredibly confused on physics, too, and cosmology unless you believe the earth is a flat plane? One of the most prolific yogic voices out there today is Eric Dubay (and Santos Bonacci) who proves that yoga in and of itself proves nothing about anything other than how flexible the human body can become. Which is incredibly cool in itself...
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Bruno Paulo10 hours ago
You're already arguing, but that's a good thing :) I know the hindu views, and you forget Shaktist view. If this world is an error than the Shakti aspect is absolutely evil, and the Shiva aspect absolutely good, but you know better that things don't work that way. Even the ancient sages and visionaries behind texts and ancient religious traditions varied in their perceptions of eschatology. Either way, we're here, and if were an error, than God would have commited an error, and is that possible? I just cannot agree to that. The original kabbala and its purpose has got nothing to do with modrn day Israel or the jewish conduct in history. Religion and mysticism is one thing, survival is another. Thus the corruption of teachings as well as the extremist views on life and society. The truth is that mysticism is radical and extreme, and there I agree with you. To some extent it teaches that the other world(s) is far better than this one, but to follow asceticism and the rejection of this world in detriment of a better one must be a personal choice, not a theological dictature. Here the line between the validity and invalidity of religions and metaphysics become blurred, confuse people, and create wars. Spirituality is first and foremost a personal thing.
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andrewmarkmusic9 hours ago (edited)
@Bruno PauloThere are different issues here Bruno. The first is that I am not arguing for the Vedas being a source of truth. Like all religions of the Archons, they are mired in confusion and contradiction. This is demonstrably provable and the social system which arose out of these teachings is deplorable from the Christian Gnostic view yet entirely consistent with the mind of the Archons. As for subtle energies: at this point in time, there is zero evidence for them being real within the field of science and empiricism...This is juxtaposed to some of the most astonishing 'supernatural' claims in all of religion. I've already suggested that the Demiurge created replicants of Sophia and the Kristos so the whole of the Vedas would be allusions to these imposter Gods...And because they are ultimately deceptive the metaphysics surrounding them are deceptive, too. The claims within Kabballah are similar but Kabballah is unmatched in its economic and political control of the earth and its people although the Hindu Nationalists seem to want to give the Cabal a run for their money. in late postmodernity. The Christian Gnostic view is that this place is irredeemable... period. Within this view is an ironic plea for truth and justice which of course falls on deaf ears in the Matrix. The Spirit of Revolt is mentioned in the comment section of part 11 of my Golden Rule Series. https://youtu.be/WYgPUTaaVRMHaving said this I still sit in the Dualist camp of DVAITA which is consistent with Christian Gnostic thought.
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andrewmarkmusic9 hours ago
Please note that materialists and atheists tried to account for all the confusion and contradiction (and war and murder) by asserting religion is mythology and storytelling. Exoteric religion used the 'we only have the chosen truth gambit' even if chosen truth is incoherent, irrational and illogical...This leaves us with Christian Gnosticism which is one among a few other possibilities... Peace:)
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Bruno Paulo8 hours ago
@andrewmarkmusicOk, I see. But what is really new in christian gnosticism? Didn't it arise from Egypt, a land full of egyptian and greek mysticism (from which later sprang Hermeticism as a mix of both)? Jews were also in egypt at the time obviously, and the apocripha employ jewish terms, perhaps from an egyptian/greek extreme POV, for they were heretics as far as I know. So yeah, maybe the whole Universe is full of impostor gods. The demiurge is an impostor god, just as Atman is. The soul is itself is an impostor god, and a fallen angel and a lucifer and a satan to itself. That doesn't make the demiurge "evil", like I said, the language of the gospel is metaphorical. The demiurge is actually a high, lightfull being. If that cannot be proved, well, the point of mysticism and religion is not that, but one of faith, although even through the method of science some order, intelligent design and beauty can still be appreciated in this chaos. It doesn't prove that God or heaven exists, but it doesn't proves otherwise neither.
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