Should, or Can, Trump move decisively against the Deep State and/or the Left now? Discussion - Part One

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This post is going to be in more of a discussion/presentation format than anything else...but no %^&^**&^ PowerPoint 😜

The question has come to mind primarily because of the latest wave of leftist violence, which has denigrated into firearms use. However, the Deep State/media tactics of character assassination have continued without evidence, and I have seen many Steemit writers discussing the link between the dishonest leaks and the street violence. Feel free to link your relevant blogs!


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Liddell-Hart, in Strategy, notes that the best laid attack plans are set so that multiple objectives may be reached with a single attack. If the Information War being waged against Trump is designed to reach the goal of impeachment, does it also satisfy the goal of fomenting violence in our streets? Aren't these assumptions to begin with?

Discussion Point One - Why is it so bad that Trump is being investigated?

  • For many of us, the goal of the Information War against Trump seems to be not to replace him with a Deep State hack, but to prevent an investigation of Hillary Clinton and/or the DNC and/or The Deep State
  • Following from that point, no investigation of Trump, regardless of what he actually has done, can be valid as long that investigation is led by folks that are part of those networks.
    see Conflict of Interest Surrounds The Election Investigation
  • For many people, Trump is the Promise of a Drained Swamp, and they see their legally selected instrument of law being sabotaged. The people spoke...and the burrocrats and "journalists" spat on the rule of law and on them personally. Again, whatever Trump may have done is inconsequential compared to the corruption and malfeasance that they voted against

Discussion Point Two - Why "The Russians did it" is a sad joke


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  • From the outset, it was strange to see people who had done nothing to confront the Russians throughout oblahblah's admin (up to Syria, that is) suddenly condemn the Russians
    The 80's called, and want their foreign policy back - Barky Hussein Oblahblah
    Clinton's "reset" button
    The violation of the Budapest memorandum, where Oblahblah abandoned Ukraine despite the guarantee of their sovereignty
    Hillary's approval of the sale of American uranium to Russia
  • Even while under oath, security official after security official has stated there is no evidence of Russian interference in the election; while they swear so, they and their underlings run to their allied media with fakenews stating the opposite in unproven allegations.
  • The goalpost keep moving - every time an allegation is disproved, another scurrilous rumor is run. Remember the dishonest insanity of the Pee Dossier?
  • See Is there evidence of "Russian" hacking or is it in fact alphabet agency propaganda?
  • The Vault 7 revelations of the CIA's ability to false flag cyberops with opfor's fingerprints (in particular, Russia's)
  • The revelation of Seth Rich's leaks of DNC material to Wikileaks. Seth Rich having then been murdered in a "robbery" in which nothing was stolen

Discussion Point Three - The tendency of the Left to commit violence on the street level, and to justify it on the Information War level

observing radicals in action, I was repeatedly reminded of the storm troopers that marched through my childhood in Europe

  • Robison, K. K., Crenshaw, E. M., & Jenkins, J. C. (2006). Ideologies of Violence: The Social Origins of Islamist and Leftist Transnational Terrorism. Social Forces, 84(4), 2009–2026.
  • And so we don't just assume that this street violence is solely a Leftist affair...
    Soros, Democracy Alliance, Dark Money, and Violence
    Is Soros a Leftist, a Globalist, or just a combination platter of shit? Does it matter what his motivations are as much as the damage he causes?


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Part One Summary

There is a lot of material here to read and to vet. In fact, a lot of this seems to be unorganized and off the point of the title. But there is a method to the madness; this is all background to the really important discussion coming up - Should Trump strike now? Can he strike now? Does Trump actually intend to Drain the Swamp, or is he just more kabuki theatre by the Deep State?

War moves faster than your preparations. No plan survives contact with the enemy.

In fact, as I mentally outlining the next blog, I think we might need to move to three parts...let's hope my Two Part plan survives!

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Great thought provoking post! Regardless of left or right leanings, I think any reasonable citizen can observe the bullshit deep state political tactics being deployed now. And it should disgust them. As I have said in previous posts, we are all being played!!!

any reasonable citizen can observe the bullshit deep state political tactics being deployed now.

the key word here is reasonable ;) most folks, left or right just aren't all that reasonable when it comes to politics. I heap hate on the left b/c of the danger statism presents, and I tend to ignore ignorance on the Right up until there is a direct point to be made...and even then I will let things slide unless it's a MAJOR point. ;>

If they don't impeach him... there's always the next election...

LOL

Huma, get your mouth off of me and go fetch me another Geritol and Vodka!

If you look close, I think they photoshopped a picture of Bernie- the guy that made millions selling Socialism to suckers!

one of these days I have to get around to an indepth post on leftism, but for now, I will just say there are three kinds of socialists; the actual leftists, sociopaths that understand what leftism means and use that to enhance their own power, the suckers that think they are more moral for willfully ignoring all the negative aspects of leftism, and the leeches that don't give a damn about leftism other than getting free shit from taxpayers.

I guess that "useful idiots" would fit into the second category. They're Cultural Marxists (socialists in general) who apply Marx's idiotic economic model to society (ala Gramchi). After reading Marx the first time I remember thinking 'this is moronic, how could anybody take it seriously' The theories are so completely flawed- based on assumptions about human nature that are diametrically opposed to reality.

It occurred to me that intelligent/educated (I know they're not necessarily the same) must see something by selling this crap to the "proletariat." Marx didn't have much luck judging by WWI which was supposed to be Socialism's crowning moment.

That leaves category 3... the parasites are too stupid to understand any of the ideological underpinnings- it's the "free shit" as you said. One of the Founders wrote that the Republic would survive until people found out they could vote themselves other people's money... Welcome to the Death Throes of the Republic!!!

I have to disagree that "Oblahblah abandoned Ukraine", I think it more likely that it was a flat out Coup perpetuated by the "combination platter of shit" and his Deep State co-conspirators.

Don't forget about Joe Biden's son, the Russkies didn't do that.

Ukraine is still a complex situation; I haven't looked at it close enough to make definite conclusions past this...

The Russians aren't good guys, and they run their own propaganda. The coup, if it was one, was still an internal Ukrainian affair. and although I realize that Russia could have very valid security concerns about a Soros puppet state on it's borders, I don't trust the silovoki any more than I trust the unAmerican Deep State.

In fact, right now I think that most likely case is that the Deep State is fighting a two front war against American patriots and the silovoki

You can find a lot of cross references to this if you do a search for "Victoria Nuland Yats is the guy"

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/31887-the-ukraine-mess-that-nuland-made

There's a recoding of the exchange somewhere.

I'm not saying Russia is the good guy either but if China all of a sudden replaced monsieur Trudeau with a puppet that said he he hates the US, you can bet your ass the US would be upset.

Especially after China promised, although only verbally, that China's military would not move "one inch closer" to the US.

vis a vis NATO and the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact.

I think what we're seeing is a collapsing empire flailing about, trying to keep it's populace in check by "exposing" (or fabricating) enemies that the populace needs to be protected from.

maybe I'll get the time to look at that fully.

the way I see this is that the Deep State and the left must be destroyed on the things that we know they did, not on things that are hard to prove and subject to disinfo ops.

We know that Mueller and Comey both violated conflict of interest laws. Nail them for that.
We know that Clinton mishandled classified data. Nail her for that
We know that leftists are coordinating violent riots across state lines via social media...
We know democong politicans are violating 8 USC 1324 with sanctuary cities...

utlimately, because we know that the democong judges will crank out their own partisan opinions on these things rather than obey the law, things are going to come down to force..and that discussion is going to be in Part two

I agree 100% on everything you say about their crimes.

I just don't think anyone has the stones or the ability to do anything about it.

So The Machine will continue chugging along, grinding decent people underneath its wheels, until it collapses under its own dead weight.

I just don't think anyone has the stones or the ability to do anything about it.

Sometimes I agree with you, and sometimes I am hopeful that just enough people will wake up, especially those in LE and in the military.

It only took III% of the colonists to overthrow the British, and that doesn't take into effect that the majority of British security forces were loyal to the Crown, not in sympathy with the rebels

But waking people up is part of the Information War!

I wish I could keep track of where I read things.

Recently someone made the point that once 10% of a population adopts something, it's basically unstoppable.

Oh, it was apparently from Freakonomics
(It's amazing what you can find with the right search terms.)

I can't believe they let my kids read that in public school.

Let; it wasn't required reading.

Is that a good book? I've heard good an bad things (of course from different folks LOL), but I havn't gotten around to reading it either.

Hell, I just bought two I'll probaly never get around to reading
The origins of FBI counterintelligence
Moral dilemmas of modern war

The "The Russians did it" people are really starting to bugging me out. You can use Russia as a scapegoat for everything you want. But not your own elections. The American people elected someone who is clearly not capable of doing his job. People with American passport voted on a American candidate, under the rules of an American voting system.

And don't get me started on the claim where 'Trump didn't get the popular vote'. If the american people wanted the candidate with the 'popular vote' to win. Then you should have altered the rules BEFORE the elections.

You can't just alter the rules of an election because you don't like the outcome.

side-note: The fact that i'm addressing some hypocrisy of anti Trump people. Doesn't mean that i'm a supporter of Trump, and neither does it make me a Putin supporter.

The fact that i'm addressing some hypocrisy of anti Trump people. Doesn't mean that i'm a supporter of Trump, and neither does it make me a Putin supporter.

It's hard to be a complex thinker in a world of binary thinking LOL

For now, I am a Trump supporter. If I see the heads on spikes that I want to see, that support will continue.

Must come back and read this in more depth..

Thanks mate for sharing
Have a great and sunny weekend

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