Not knowing who it is you actually were speaking with, it's har d to know exactly where they are coming from. But without going into a history of our politics over the past 40 years to understand how we got here, let's just look at the CURRENT MOMENT... we have a president who is ridiculously carefree with actual facts and he has an audience that listens to, primarily, the FOX network that is also carefree with actual facts. They make up their own while crying 'fake news' about all the other media outlets. It's a cover. WHy do they even need a cover? They have been using FEAR for a good number of years now. It is alarming how many people fall for FEAR! It's a way for those in power to continue to do what they want, while creating a sideshow of FEAR to keep them from the truth.

SO, it would seem reasonable to try and have a conversation in the traditional way - an exchange of ideas, but one side is NOT playing by those rules, and it is completely disheartening. I think that is what you are running up against. It's scary, the current administration has let loose some frightening tendencies that many thought were long lost to the annals of history (the rise of nazi's and white supremecy rhetoric for example).

In my little old opinion paired with knowing the decades of history of Trump as a real estate a**hole in NYC, I think he is truly himself frightened of everyone finding out how much of a fraud and traitor he is and how collusion with Russia was and is an actual thing. That's why he projects his foibles on to others. The truth will come out, one can only hope.

ALl of this paired along with an un-bending hardline coming from our republicans in congress(it's a mystery...are they guilty too?), you can see how that has trickled down into the average person's views (whether for or against). This trend began in earnest when we voted for Obama- in my opinion a thinking man, very deliberate in action, word and deed. But we have a terrible history of racism in this country that has continually been swept under the rug, but it came roaring back. SUch a shame.

But tomorrow is election day!!! stay tuned....