RE: So, you're an anarchist?

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So, you're an anarchist?

in philosophy •  2 years ago 

True statement...

You're still not actually addressing my point, that human nature is only what is universal to humans, not what is present in some humans in a specific time, place, and socio-economic paradigm.

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With humans, there is nothing universal or instinctual. Statistically speaking humans are like a virus on the earth consuming and hoarding to consume later and compete with each other for resources - but are smart enough to create the fiction of the rule of law.

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there is nothing universal

Nothing besides adaptation. Thus my statement that human nature is a fiction.

or instinctual

Uhh... survival, safety, reproduction...

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Human nature is to hoard resources. Law is fictional but we can swear fealty to it and give it power in that way.

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Human nature is to hoard resources

Your opinion, I disagree, and there is no proof either way, so we're just going in circles.

Law is fictional but we can swear fealty to it and give it power in that way.

True, but why would we? I am a huge fan of agreements, contracts, intentional communities, dispute-resolution organizations, and many other fictions that we can give power to, which do not involve force or coercion.

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Who decides when a violation of a private agreement happened?

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Those involved, and/or anyone else that was involved in the agreement process as a mediator, DRO, etc.

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Sounds expensive. A private system of civil procedure. And if you disagree with the results? War?

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It might be, but it would necessarily be less expensive than doing the same thing through force, coercion, and monopoly.

If you disagree with the results then you suck it up, because you voluntarily agreed to how those results would be come to.

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Morality is also fictional construct created by the framework of fictional law and therefore, morals need our fealty to have power.

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Morality is also fictional construct created by the framework of fictional law

There are many who would disagree with that. Check out Mark Passio's "Natural Law" seminars.

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I will. Thanks.

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I'd just like to tell you how much I appreciate the civility & maturity with which you've participated in this conversation :-)

It's so wonderful when talking with someone, where both have differing opinions on things, but both are actually listening to each other, and actually responding to the statements made instead of just repeating their own stance over and over :-)