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According to Business Insider, Facebook has begun rolling out its much-anticipated solution to fake news.

I can already hear it now. The tinfoil-hat-wearing types will be yelling "Censorship!!!" from the rooftops (or maybe their parents' basements). But here's the thing... It's not censorship (as of yet). It'll be marked as disputed with a link to the fact checking site which disputes the article.

I often link out to articles on fact checking sites like Snopes because the content they provide is reasonable, verifiable, and often quite clear and undisputed. I've asked many to show me articles which are false, biased, untrue, etc and have yet to see a good example. Many often reply with something along the lines of "LOL! You still trust Snopes!?!?" but they never actually engage with the arguments made there.

What I didn't know until just now is that fact-checking websites actually have a code of principles! There's even an International Fact-Checking Network. Here's a quick summary of the principles:

  1. A commitment to nonpartisanship and fairness
  2. A commitment to transparency of sources
  3. A commitment to transparency of funding & organization
  4. A commitment to transparency of methodology
  5. A commitment to open and honest corrections

That sounds pretty great to me! For those interested in truth and not just confirmation bias, how is this a bad thing?

Could these organizations manipulate perspectives using falsehood? Maybe, but there are already 43 organizations that have been vetted. If any of those groups don't stick to the process, the other groups (or those completely outside of this list) will gain credibility by exposing them. This sounds like the beginning of a reputation system to encourage truth and transparency in journalism. I really like that, and I think we need more of it.

Previous generations relied on gatekeepers to feed them truth through their newspapers and televisions. Today, we consume media directly. It's up to us to improve our epistemology and find the truth among the alternative facts.

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Sorry I didn't get back to you on snopes. Who would think to bookmark a snopes article you found to be wrong. You just mentally note, snopes: -1.
Snopes is about -15 from my personal experiences.

But, then you try to go reconstruct, where was the articles I was reading that pointed to snopes, and the other article I was reading that disproved it.

Asking for a list of years of casual running into snopes problems is a bit on the impossible side. But, I will remember you when I run into the next one.


So, one of the most truthful, tell it like it is, futuristic thinkers is on the "fake news" list. When doing a microsloth search, even with the website in the search, it doesn't come up until the 3rd page. When doing a very specific search on Boogle with the website in the search, the article is down in the middle of the page.

On facebook, I literally have to go to many of my friend's walls to see their posts.

And many posts have just disappeared, and its getting worse.
I bet you would like me to link to some of these.. but it is kinda impossible to link to something that has disappeared.

What F-c-book says sounds nice, but what it really means is that if you disagree with the MSmockingbirdMedia then you will get censored.

But, I will remember you when I run into the next one.

Please do! That would be a great discussion topic.

How do you define censorship? If I created a platform and allowed others to use it, but control what can and can not be said on that platform, is that censorship? Some may say yes. I think no. I think real censorship is where people forcibly prevent you from sharing ideas. Meaning, there are topics which people are simply not allowed to discuss without facing severe, often violent consequences. Thankfully, we don't have much of that in this country and with the blockchain it's virtually impossible (though various blockchain readers such as steemit.com can choose to do what they please).

And yes, I'm not a fan of the "fake news" list. I think that's separate from what's being discussed here which is specific examples of sites posting things which other sites which have agreed to a set of standards say is disputed. I don't see that as censorship. I see that as helpful. Sort of a, "Hey, before you take this as the whole story, check out these alternative perspectives on the issue." I see that as how we gain more accurate knowledge of reality.

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they will still scream "censorship". For majority of people, it's common to accept as truth what they THINK, not what facts/evidences there are. It makes them feel superior or smarter, dunno. I have taken a different approach in this aspect especially after I watched the movie "Spotlight". The investigative journalist knew the truth, but they waited long time to hit big, once and for all, after they provided facts. I really hope I wont see anymore pizzagate bullshit on facebook and other places.

Do facts upset you? Please debate me about pizzagate "facts". You have shown your cards as complete ignorance of these facts simply by stating what you state above. Notice I say ignorance instead of resorting to attacking you by calling your words bullshit. Just something to keep in mind. Hope this does not come across as me feeling "superior"...though in debates facts do rule the day and your statement:
I really hope I wont see anymore pizzagate bullshit on facebook and other places.
Does reallllly make you look bad when it comes to coming across to others as having an interest in facts above just "thinking" you are right...since if you never read things with which you disagree, your mind will NEVER be expanded.

i read the original post that popped up in reddit. I checked one by one all the "facts" the idiots provided. A couple of photos do not MEAN ANYTHING. Instead of pizzagate, because it's a dream to catch a pedophile politican, why dont you fucking check the real pizzagate happening in cambodia, philiphines and other third world countries where US fucking sex tourist travel thousands of miles just to have sex with a child? just shut up and dont tell me about truth or ignorance.

The blue panda attacks! Cauuuuse nothing else he(she?) can do!

To those reading this...screenshots dont matter (source: blue panda)

Second...he tells me to check the "real pizzagate" (implying...again ignorantly, that human trafficking networks ONLY exist in and 3rd world countries). Again ignorant.

So let me ask you one quick question: Do you think multi billionnaires who run human trafficking networks (only in 3rd world countries mind you LOL) would not want leverage over the politicians they will pay money to get elected? Do you really think they wont want collateral they can use to ensure their interests are not betrayed? If so: naive.
Why? Let me make it easy for you...what the hell does the multi billionaire "donor" do if the politician they donate to turns on them? Take them to court? Again...brazen level of ignorance.

Oh...and sorry if this fact hurts...but about the "dream to catch a pedophile politician". My dream came true... ever hear of Dennis Hastert?? Prob not...ignorance and attacking truth to feel superior is just too easy compared actually taking 20 min to research
Cannn i get a drum roll??
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5713f320e4b0018f9cba558d
Waaaaaiiiiit...wasnt he...a politician? Wait...no wasnt he a reaaaaallly powerful politician? Like 3rd in line to become pres powerful (speaker of the house)? Yes. Yes. Annnnnd yes.

https://g.co/kgs/8HhQml ("former" speaker of the house)
Your ease invoking the word idiot...priceless.

I can assure you i am a man with vagina. #ciaofelicia

Well well well. Perfect way to end this. Because why? In your own words:
"It's common to accept as truth what they THINK, not what facts/evidences there are."

At least you care enough to research if u have a mangina. ;)

Nothing but love. Really. I hate to do what i did here...but you need to wake up...or AT LEAST stop attacking the people who actually care enough yo research factual evidence. That wont happen if u focus on my respectful sidenote of whether u are a man or woman....instead of the huge list of facts i just gave u. Maybe im too idealistic...but i hope someday you do open your beautiful human brain up to let the harsh realities of this world in. Only when we look at inconvenient truths do we grow more capable of actually helping this messed up world. Apathy isnt the answer.

Have an upvote on me...just to show u no hard feelings.

thanks for the love. next time, probably you shouldnt try to read other people's mind.

Huh? Im sorry but as i stated prior im done with this. Dont have time to debate anymore...but what i will say is that i never read your mind or assumed. I simply pointed to the fact that you only attack others and prefer ignorantly advocate censorship of opinions you do not like...all of which you either implied or outright stated. Cant really turn this one on me. Sorry but those who read our conversation have it all there to see. Youre blaming me for pointing out facts that make your previous statements look pretty bad. And you did it yourself. Not i.

I don't have time to debate too. but you simply twisted my words in your favor :) I never mentioned anything about what I believe is the real situation of child sex trafficking in developed countries, right?

Edit: and if you read better, I didnt attack you. I said "fucking sex tourists" because you know, pedophiles ¯_(ツ)_/¯

" read the original post that popped up in reddit. I checked one by one all the "facts" the idiots provided. A couple of photos do not MEAN ANYTHING."
Hm...i never said anything about the photos for comet ping pong. Who assumes? I guess its not very convenient so please do ignore it (or better yet...twist it) Or you could use the brain you have...

"Instead of pizzagate, because it's a dream to catch a pedophile politican, why dont you fucking check the real pizzagate happening in cambodia, philiphines and other third world countries where US fucking sex tourist travel thousands of miles just to have sex with a child?"
Takeaway - pizzagate doesnt exist. I should pay attention to "The real pizzagate" that happens in 3rd world countries??? Um...where exactly am i assuming here? I mean at some point i need to solidify in my mind wth u are saying...and your words go one way, and You twist them and the circumstance to mean what you want them to. Sorry man...

"Just shut up and dont tell me about truth or ignorance."
^^ Nuff said... fair thee well "truth seeker" may you burn many bridges and shut down many voices.

Note: ironically i was just in philippines and one of my primary missions while there was to makr connections woth teachers who might wish to leverage steempower to pay their students for getting good grades and deterring them from the circumstances that make them easy targets. Once again...you project onto me what you are actually doing. People are not dumb...

Now since u refuse to cover any of my actual points...this is the last response to your baseless and erroneous accounting of this conversation.

Facebook is Fakenews.

Facebook is a social media site, not a news site.

With the most fake news links.

The problem comes in when they try to become the arbitors of truth by creating a club of "fact checking" outlets who represent them and are able to flag content that are not expressly... illegal (i.e. child porn, assault, murder...etc.).

Flagging is "censorship lite" which is why I dont believe in it except in very fringe cases. Imho...its much better to limit number of posts per unique account and allow people to block users they dont like and easily see/block the accounts their trusted friends block.

Totally with you on this one.

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