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Sargon of Akkad reads a summary of the ideology of the Nazis (the real ones) at the time. I think you will be unpleasantly surprised at the similarities of ideologies that today's social justice proponents & progressives have in common with Nazis. The Nazis were the social justice warriors of their time.

Man's source of knowledge they (Nazis) declared, is feeling, or passion, or intuition. Man in this view is not a rational being, he is in essence an emotional being.
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There is only truth relative to a group, truth for us, versus truth for them. (i.e. intersectional feminism, identity politics)
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Progressives, are going to be on the wrong side of history! Lets hope they do not do something regretful in the name of morality.

The result, is a view of morality in which the ruling standard is, the feelings of others.
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Sound familiar? This could not be more dangerous to society today.

Altruism gives to the use of force a moral sanction,
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No one is allowed to forget about what moral sanctions of force led to during WWII. I don't think I have to remind anyone, people ask how a guard could do this or that. They could do it because they believed it was right. But I know what you will all say, it will be different this time.

Refer time stamp 6:52 for a summary of the Nazi world view. Pretty much Social Justice Progressivism

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Many people don't realise that the Nazi ideological platform was National Socialism. Gregor Strasser was 2nd only to Hitler. One of his great quotes was this : "The Capitalist system with its exploitation of those who are economically weak, with its robbery of the workers labour power, with its unethical way of appraising human beings by the number of things and the amount of money he possesses, instead of by their internal value and their achievements, must be replaced by a new and just economic system, in a word by German Socialism." Sounds pretty close to what you'd get from a SJW to me.

how people have been conned into wanting socialism, is fucking beyond me.

Most people are community minded and want to help the fellow man, but they've just been a bit brainwashed by the education system and mainstream media to believe socialism is the best for everyone. If only they knew a little bit about economics and history they'd quickly realise it doesn't work and has NEVER worked.

They will realise when the boot heel is on their heads, sadly it will be too late to do anything then.

Great post....
I can just see the SJW's now....

'What?....I'M THE NAZI !?'

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I love what you have written in all your posts....
I feel like I don't fit in with the left or right views....
I'm not sure what exactlly what I am politically....
I guess I'd call myself....sane centrist.

Haha, everyone has a little tyrant inside no? it can be shocking to discover it I suppose.

I feel like I don't fit in with the left or right views....

Yeah, same; people reading my content would probably think I'm on the right (because I oppose the heavily authoritarian behaviour of the left), however that isn't the case. I am just against authoritarian behaviour of both the left and the right. The far right had become insignificant until, recent backlash caused by unreasonable pressure from the left. In a way I fight against the left to minimise the backlash when the pendulum swings back hard to the right.

How I see the Left & right:
The right is honest in its motivation: homogeneity by purity of race (we know what we will get here) these ideas can easily be debunked.

The left is dishonest in its goal towards homogeneity by "equality"; big promises of the utopian dream (however can never deliver on it) for me this is worse, as the outcome is presented as something we can't prove to be bad (because it has never been tried <sarcasm)

I'm not sure what exactlly what I am politically....
I guess I'd call myself....sane centrist.

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I only use these labels for the purpose of the being able to hold a conversation (semantics), I am not concerned with strict (academic) definitions and neither are they; we need the ability to speak generally & drill down to specifics, thats all I use these terms for. For this reason I don't really see my self as an individualist per se. However, that may be the easiest term to convey it to other people without listing each and every philosophy every time I comment.

I think you are stretching definitions to fit your own world view.

I haven't stretched any definitions, the video shows the similarities, between what social justice warriors say today, compared to what Nazis said in the 1930s. My world view is exactly that, a view, of what is the observable behaviour of social justice advocates.

You are warping it so you can somehow blame it all on Group A because they said some stuff that Group B said, and since no one liked group B, so then Group A must be like Group B. LOGIC FTW!!!

Yeah I'm not warping or blaming anything, the post shows that the ideology of social justice today is the same as the ideology of the Nazis in the past prior to the war.

You are warping it so you can somehow blame it all on Group A because they said some stuff that Group B said, and since no one liked group B, so then Group A must be like Group B. LOGIC FTW!!!

I did't say they "said some stuff". I said their ideologies are demonstrably the same.

So yeah, because group A believe what group B believe, and since no one liked group B, then Group A is like Group B and NO ONE WILL LIKE YOU! Throughout history, those that were against freedom of speech and liberty were on the wrong side of history, this time will be no different.

Yeah I'm not warping or blaming anything, the post shows that the ideology of social justice today is the same as the ideology of the Nazis in the past prior to the war.

You are warping it so you can somehow blame it all on Group A because they said some stuff that Group B said, and since no one liked group B, so then Group A must be like Group B. LOGIC FTW!!!

I did't say they "said some stuff". I said their ideologies are demonstrably the same.

So using your own logic, if the ideology are the same (refer video) then what makes them different?

Yeah I'm not warping or blaming anything, the post shows that the ideology of social justice today is the same as the ideology of the Nazis in the past prior to the war.

You are warping it so you can somehow blame it all on Group A because they said some stuff that Group B said, and since no one liked group B, so then Group A must be like Group B. LOGIC FTW!!!

I did't say they "said some stuff". I said their ideologies are demonstrably the same.

So yeah, because group A believe what group B believe, and since no one liked group B, then Group A is like Group B and NO ONE WILL LIKE YOU! Throughout history, those that were against freedom of speech and liberty were on the wrong side of history, this time will be no different.

Throughout history, those that were against freedom of speech and liberty were on the wrong side of history, this time will be no different.

There are many people in the world who you might count as an SWJ or a Progressive who believe very strongly about freedom of speech... and what do you mean, "were on the wrong side of history"? What side of history is the wrong one? I take it you never looked too close at history either, which is one big time line of arseholes successfully stealing liberties and suppressing freedom of speech.

Thats the best way to make money and get into power: steal liberties and squash bad talk from dissenters.

There are many people in the world who you might count as an SWJ or a Progressive who believe very strongly about freedom of speech...

Then they need to speak out against political correctness, rather then staying silent, while people use social justice to police speech and thought.

Im not really ok with using hugely generalised labels. Labelling someone as Liberal or Conservative doesnt really tell you much about someone, nor does labelling them as an SWJ or progressive. Its a weak argument and a scapegoat for anger, or worse, gets used as a tool to rile people up who want to be riled up.

I dont think you actually help by posting this kind of content, I think most people who disagree, like me, wont take the time to talk or voice an opinion and lets be honest, you dont really want me here either. Hardly anyone posts content from any "side" that actually wants debate. Humans seem more comfortable in an echo chamber.

Do me/yourself/theworld a favour and try... like reeeeealy fukin try... to challenge your own ideals in a way that might actually give you a more rounded opinion. Most people will "look" at opposing arguments and opinions and then go find out on the internet, or in a well read book, why that argument will be wrong. Its already been decided in their minds.

There are many truths in what you say but its not the whole story, just like blaming the 1% for all the worlds ills or blaming some liberal or conservative government for the decline of society isnt the whole story.

Im not really ok with using hugely generalised labels. Labelling someone as Liberal or Conservative doesnt really tell you much about someone, nor does labelling them as an SWJ or progressive. Its a weak argument and a scapegoat for anger, or worse, gets used as a tool to rile people up who want to be riled up.

You need to become ok with it to be able to have the conversation. You are generalising about generalisations. Trying to get away from your own label, because of its flawed ideology, is obfuscation. You need to identify your group to acknowledge its ideology (you are the identitarians), recently I have noticed social justice types have been trying to distance themselves from the label, because its themes have been thoroughly debunked. The labeling isn't the argument, the argument is that the ideas of the group belonging to the label have been shown to be flawed.

I dont think you actually help by posting this kind of content, I think most people who disagree, like me, wont take the time to talk or voice an opinion and lets be honest, you dont really want me here either. Hardly anyone posts content from any "side" that actually wants debate. Humans seem more comfortable in an echo chamber.

You would like me not to post, typical, I can see how you respect freedom of speech <<< sarcasm. People who disagree do voice an opinion, however they have not voiced one that is very convincing. Even you have not voiced an opinion other than

I think you are stretching definitions to fit your own world view.

Which amounts to: "you think I'm wrong".

Do me/yourself/theworld a favour and try... like reeeeealy fukin try... to challenge your own ideals in a way that might actually give you a more rounded opinion. Most people will "look" at opposing arguments and opinions and then go find out on the internet, or in a well read book, why that argument will be wrong. Its already been decided in their minds.

Stop projecting. I have been all over your side of the debate, I grew up with it, I believed, and I fought for it. I refused, like you, to see the insidious nature of what was being taught. However contrary to your opinion about me, I kept on studying Marxism until I couldn't deny how wrong the ideas were. Marxism was so damaged in the 50-60s that its proponents had to hide their ideas by giving it another name, postmodernism. Since then, they have disingenuously spread their ideas with subversion. Social Justice has been built on postmodernism and its issues are spread by lies. Now today you want to run away from your own label and we have to ask why (rhetorically)?

There are many truths in what you say but its not the whole story, just like blaming the 1% for all the worlds ills or blaming some liberal or conservative government for the decline of society isnt the whole story.

This is a straw man, I was never blaming liberal government or conservative government and I never said it was the whole story. **I am blaming the ideology, because it is flawed, whether it is used by Nazi's or whether it is used by SJWs or democrats. For example, this is evident with the recent capacity to be able to say any level of racist comments to white people, without impunity. It disgusts me to hear SJWs condescendingly refer to "cis white males" then politely refer to me as a "person of colour". It does not make me feel "included", I am appalled by this repulsive behaviour. As an individual, if you don't denounce this behaviour then you haven't distinguished yourself from the group of people that believe they are morally entitled to behave this way.

So you are wrong to say that I don't want you here, I do, I want you to prove me wrong. So far you haven't provided any argument, all you told me is:

I think you are stretching definitions to fit your own world view.

I welcome you posting, otherwise I wouldn't respond.

I haven't stretched any definitions, the video shows the similarities, between what social justice warriors say today, compared to what Nazis said in the 1930s. My world view is exactly that, a view, of what is the observable behaviour of social justice advocates.

The essence of all religions is one. Only their approaches are different.

- Mahatma Gandhi

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