Important Change to Steemit, effective immediately.

in haejin •  10 months ago

Effective immediately, prior to hitting the post button, please run all posts by @haejin for approval. If it is something that meets the approval of the Haejin cult, you can post it provided you upvote his 10 posts a day and decline your payouts.

See below an example of his fine work.

The rules are in place to prevent the distribution of wealth and to allow an old dying man all the money before he dies.

  • Posts that are not unsupportive of the new @haejin regime will be not be approved.
  • Posts that have Crypto advice that has not been approved by the all-knowing @haejin will be flagged.
  • Any post showing dissent will be flagged.
  • Any user not upvoting all 10-20 posts a day by our supreme leader @haejin will be flagged.
  • Any user with an IQ over 24, will be flagged. We cannot have dissent in our ranks.

Failure to follow these rules will result in strict punishment. If you doubt our convictions, have a look at our recent work.


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Have a good daY^^

I'm new here and it's been pretty daunting to get caught up and acclimated with how Steemit works, and to be honest, seeing some of the shenanigans going on has been a little discouraging. However, its also very ENCOURAGING to see people like you trying to make it better and remedy these issues. I already voted for you as a witness. Keep up the good work amigo.

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There is always some drama going on, such as life. There is a lot of good here though if you can ignore the noise.

I am not reading the comments. I have been sucked in to too many of these ridiculous back and forths and will not continue. I do want to say my piece.

@themarkymark cares for Steemit more than most. I only know him from his posts and from following this... "the conflict sent to destroy Steemit." Do not kid yourself... the token has hit all-time highs... but if this 'problem' is not solved... there are new lows to set as well (and I remember reading it was down at 7 cents for a time).

@themarkymark spent his new years eve trying to resolve this issue. He stuck his neck out knowing the consequences and did it anyway. He is still sticking his neck out... and the rewards may look good now, but could just as easily go down to zero before all is said and done.

This man is one who is not willing to let a place he loves die without at least a fight... and that is one of the reasons why he has my vote for witness.

The way I see it... @haejin and his followers are taking this conflict too personally and as such, seem to justify backlash. I do not agree with all of the tactics he has had to endure during this time... and for that I am sorry... I follow his work, and enjoy it. His work is good for the platform... Do I think he deserves to be paid $15000 / day? No. There are many people that do very well on a daily basis... and he very likely could sink down to the lowly levels of some of the mega whales who still post daily, and make $400 (according to the ticker).

The downvotes are not meant to hate or disrespect what he brings to the platform... he brings value to the platform... the downvotes (and upvotes for that matter) are merely meant to bring justice to the imperfect means of distributing rewards. There are many who are watching and sitting idly by hoping that steem doesn't go down the shitter... sitting idly by will send steem down the shitter.

I gave this post my 100% upvote... it might be up to 20 cents now! I gave this post and @themarkymark my support not because I dislike @haejin but because I love steemit and I want to see it flourish.

One day I hope to upvote one of @haejin's pieces... but as it stands I feel like he is getting more than enough. That means I hope that eventually everyone will see the light... this is NOT PERSONAL... this is about STEEMIT and keeping it a great place to write, read and hang out.

Thank you @themarkymark. You have my vote for witness... and if you become invisible on here... I will do what I can to help bring you back with my limited steempower and hopefully well thought out and presented perspective.

I upvoted this comment for visibility (and to cash in heavy because it seems to be all the rage right now).

Good to know

I don't get it. Witnesses are incharge of these kind pf problems? No support team of the site itself? Can someone explain that to me?

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This site is meant to be self-policing.

There is a way to stop abuse if you understand that there is a fixed pool of money generated every day. You stop voting for the posts that are draining the pot, and you start voting for other posts.

The second part is the most important - the more people vote for other stuff, the smaller haejin's share will be. Sadly people stopped voting when teh changes to the curation algorithm were introduced.

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I follow you plz follow me also,
Thank you so much

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Well I think the main post, and the main idea presented in the comments negates this.
If you have the constant backing of just 1 whale, it doesn't matter if the community doesn't upvote his post.
It wouldn't matter if the community votes on other post, because a botnet, and fake accounts spamming one person will always win (especially with whales downvoted other post).

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Even if the site had support team, they could'nt possibly remove downvotes. Action of flagging / downvoting however morally right/wrong is a part of steem blockchain's protocol.

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Blockchain technology is designed to be decentralized. There's no-one in charge of Steemit just like no one is in charge of any peer-to-peer network. Look it up. It's revolutionary.

We've just received reports of New Steem city being attacked by swarms of killer bees...
The saga continues, Wu Tang, Wu Tang.

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That first verse in triumph by inspectah deck is my fav Wu verse ever! Nice link drop @drakos

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Dear Friend
Like getting a good
video watching of beauty

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I follow you plz follow me also,
Thank you so much

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Ha, awesome song. I was listening to this just the other day! And it does seem appropriate for this shit going down!

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I follow you plz follow me also,
Thank you so much

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Killa bees on the swarm!

I'm super confused. I don't understand what this is. Why is this post here? What is it? How is this helpful content. Can someone please help me understand what this is? I'm new to all this.. it seems like a dictatorship??

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It's satire related to the on-going drama.

Why is this more offensive than all the "hot chick travel" blogs that make a million bucks a post?

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If you mean @sweeetsssj, then she posts I think 1/day for around $400. This is $382 10+ times a day.
There is a big difference, and in this case is mostly just one voter. He is basically paying Haejin a salary, which is perfectly fine, do it somewhere else, don't do it in a shared reward pool that causes everyone else to suffer.

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Well, she's the only one I see now, but there are/have been others. My point is just that there's a bunch of stuff making a killing on here that I think is of low quality or doesn't deserve what is being made. Honestly, like I said I just don't understand what the big deal is. You seem to be doing pretty well from just posting about him, who I've never heard of before seeing all your posts on the trending page.

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No doubt, I report stuff on a daily basis, and much of it is just ignored. But nothing at the scale of what is going on now.

In Related news:

Dtube will be renamed Htube and there will be only one set of videos available - Graph charts with alphabet soup

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Does it come with flags?

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Shitcoin flags!

...and the whales dramas continues. Reminds me of MSM. Gonna stick to my minnow pond.

Any user with an IQ over 24, will be flagged. We cannot have dissent in our ranks.

Wasn't this already in place?

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Don't you feel the attack on freedom of speech ? Like returning to the dark ole days .... Fear .... the Lords are comming.....

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Maybe that why haejin didnt flag me.. :(

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Yes, by berniesanders. :-P

How's about a 1 post per day limit here on Steemit, would that help clean up the reward pool raping going on around here lately? 🐳

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Nah, with the freedom of an open network you have to come up with creative solutions. Creating limitations goes against the idea of an open network.

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True, true @artopium , and what do you suggest we do to fix the issue long-term?

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I already posted this higher up on in the comments on this post but I'll post it again since it's getting cluttery around here. :)

My solution:

Create a type of curve, perhaps a bell curve, in which voting power increases to a cetain point but then begins to exonentially slow it's increase in power as an account gets closer and closer to "whale" status. This will take a large chunk of voting influence away from the "whale elite" and put it back into the "dolphin middle class" where it belongs.

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Oh my, they will never go for this, because remember... 99% of those whales bought their way to the top.

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Who is a "they" in a decentralized platform? I'm hoping Steem Inc., not Steemit.com, implements the changes in a hard fork. If Steemit.com doesn't want to implement the new version then I'm sure someone with an understanding of the problem will create a new site based on the new version and with time people will realize the benefits of moving to the new site. Then the "whales" of Steemit.com can give each other upvotes all day; We'll be somewhere else. ;)

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Yeah, and the could build it on EOS too.

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Invested their way to the top... Invested.

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I guess you could say that too.

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When people are investing their money on a project they should not get in return hate for being powerful.

The sole meaning of steemit is to present a solid investment proposal for them to tunnel their money towards.

Why should we be so close minded to not see the forest behind the tree. Those people are giving value to our shares. we should be treating them as they deserve to be treated for putting their money where their mouth is.

Sorry but that is the only way we should see this. Buying steem should not be treated as a malicious act, that will throw off a lot of investors. We cannot afford that as a platform that wants to become mainstream.

That is my opinion and I hope people could start looking at the bigger picture rather than crying about unfair rewards and so on. We will have all zero value if the investors abandon steemit, and that is something we should all be aware of. This is business.

wow the FLAG Wars started and get really fu**ed ...

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It's fun to watch, but sadly I think it is scaring some people away from the site

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The Alexa ranking keeps growing

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That's about it!

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nice post Dear Friend

welcome development, this is to keep and attract the best.

I keep reading these posts about this haejin account, but I don’t understand a word :(
I wish I could so I would support you guys, but I’m not even sure what the issue has been - my english is not that good :)

I stumbled upon this post from the trending page, and do not quite follow this. Gone and read about some background, but still not able to catch up on the intention of this post. Can you explain a bit, what is the appeal to the community ?

This is what a man should do, you stood up for this and it should be highly appreciated atleast i do, its about making a change happen, This happened!

Your writing will be responsible for important change to Steemit.

All hail! All hail! All hail!

How do you fix this? This cannot happen! If Steem is going to change the world it cannot have a toxic community and it must be fine-tuned. Greed is to be expected with this many people of all different backgrounds on the platform; however, there needs to be a solution. Perhaps a council of moderators that are elected by the community that can resolve issues such as this one?

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To fix this, you're going to have to remove Whales from the system. Alternatively, you're going to have to introduce moderation to the system.

The system is centralized right now (by whales), so you either turn it truly decentralized, or introduced a higher centralized force.

Or you trust in the Free Market and trust the other whales will take action, which costs them money, it must be noted.

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Do you think the idea of a council of moderators trusted by the Steem community who would oversee such conflicts and step in would be a feasible idea? People are fueled by greed so I doubt other whales will take action as it would cost them money though I would like to be wrong. Morality can be corrupted by money and doing the right thing at a great cost puts a bad taste in people's mouth.

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No.

I used to moderate a very large subreddit. Steemit lacks, but can add, tools that you need for effective moderation, though it'd take a while.

The problem is money. You'll have users who can say one cannot gain said value, or exercise their money-bought "rights." And said moderators will have to somehow resist acting on stuff that impacts them, and people will flock to them.

And if you elect them based on the voters' steem power, then you're not solving anything, because then the rich will appoint the people who are supposed to oversee them? Yeah, no.

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We need community based validation. Human nature can not be changed. Animals will always resort to violence and retaliate when provoked. We need to develop solutions that force greedy people to play nice and share in order to be greedy.

The problem with a council of moderators is that they are people. We should try to avoid solving human nature problems with solutions that can be exposed by human nature.

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so we need an AI, or we need redundancies that help mitigate conflicts

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You need a better designed system that is flexible for different users but has clear bounds on undesirable behavior.

If you can do it, then it should be allowed.

That being said there are some corrective mechanisms built into Steem. Flags. They just don't work very well and require fallible humans to implement. This would suggest we need a more rigid change through code rather than placing our faith in human relations. The internet is filled with narcissistic greedy trolls who forget that they are human.

So, to answer your question: probably the 2nd, or a little bit of both.

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"The internet is filled with narcissistic greedy trolls who forget that they are human."
The only way to stop this, is the Zuckerberg-ism of the internet. Get rid of anonymity completely, so people are held accountable. I don't like the idea, but man, the more and more I see the way people behave when they aren't accountable for their actions, sometimes I wonder.

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good comment, you have all the reason.

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I said the same thing the other day . It is not haejins fault .. everywhere u have users and abusers no matter what sphere of life . In this instanace it is steemit , haejin and us the users of steemit . Haejin is either exploiting steemits obvious flaw or he is really trying like all ofnus to make some bucks , nevertheless it is steemit's problem to solve issues like this or if they do not , i guess it is on to the next more secure coin ?

what is this. this is not good.why he is doing this?

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Cause he believes all of Steemit is his.

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good idea

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this is retaliation from haejin because tuck-fheman flagged him. I'm not his supporter but both he and tuck have been mine.

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^ That. All this self-appointed hall monitor shit is for the birds. Unless someone is spamming/posting actual dangerous content (threats/kiddie porn/etc) just but out of people's business. In the flag wars no one wins... especially the followers of the whales who are doing the fighting.

You want the reward pool to be more equal ?
Curate more guys .. or just open a bot and follow some legends.
This will take from the reward pool and give to everybody.

All animals including humans will go for the easy food first rather than have to work for their meal.

Steemit accounts taking advantage of the rewards pool reminds me of the Yellow Stone Bears back in the late 1800 until 1970 when everyone fed them and they had free access to the garbage dumps. Once they closed down the dumps and didn't allow people to fed the bears many died because they didn't know how to forage for food. Let's not let steemit get that far! I think all organisms are opportunist and want that free lunch!

https://www.yellowstonepark.com/things-to-do/yellowstone-bears-no-longer-get-garbage-treats

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Thank you for that link, an interesting example of humans behaving like humans and bears behaving like . . . humans!

Yeah, that seems to be a problem. We should therefore act.

Man. this is height of sarcasm :)

don't give your money to old Haejin, give it to me. Haejin is a virus

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Dear Friend
your graphics is very excellent

After reading all the comments on this post , I think hightime to investigate more about haejin and what he wrote.

The only thing being worse than this flag war is people who try to get attention with writing posts about this flag war. (I don´t mean you personally, since I really like your other posts - but there are people out there who are totally unrelated and think they can get whale attention through this)

I do not like what @haejin is doing but he is not breaking any obvious rules. He didn't pull a Logan Paul, if you get what I mean.

If Steemit adds limitations, it becomes the same crap it tried to avoid. If it does nothing, it becomes another example of how any system can be exploited regardless of intentions or regulations.

Great info

Mm more steempower you have more upvote more $$$$

Say? what?

Getting downvoted by the flanders cult group. Bring it on! I want see your entire bot net Ned Flanders!

The steemians crying the loudest about flagging and censorship are themselves the biggest transgressors!

Wow, he's behaving like an economic hitman!!

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Exactly, which is what berniesanders did to him... and to his followers. Since bernie couldn't be reasoned with, he's now being taught a lesson in Bullying. I hope little bernie learns something useful.

Unfollowed him. I am new to steem. I read a couple of his articles. Thanks for posting this. I see now that he represent all that I am against. I belief in a decentral world. Crypto is not about making money. It is about making a better world.

@themarkymark, this problem could be solved by changing the algorithm for calculating voting power. If users' voting power were calculated based on their interaction with the platform and its users, then it would be impossible for users to make large deposits and up/downvote with impunity without exposing themselves to corrective voting by other steemit users. I outline this a bit more in my most recent post, and would love to have additional feedback or buy-in from witnesses.

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Every option you come up with, there is likely way to abuse it. Bots could abuse the scenario you present. That's the tricky thing, it isn't an easy problem to solve. There are lots of good ideas, but almost all of them have low effort/ low-cost ways to get around it.

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Sure, bots could abuse it, and inevitably some would slip through the cracks, but their required interaction would still expose them to correction in the form of downvoting. We see that with spam bots now. Eventually they get downvoted to nothing. My proposal won't fix the problem of people trying to game the system overall, but it would provide a recourse for the ivory tower user that buys SP, doesn't expose themselves to downvotes or interact with the community and up/downvotes in ways that go against the communities' values.

freat information.god bless u.

So what to do in this situation....there must be a complete set of trainings to counter any danger or else

i see your post, i have to read
that's good @themarkymark
iam newcomer in steemit, please Upvote my post. thank's

LMAO! Will I get flagged for this?!

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Absolutely good comments

who he think he is?

haha, love this, great work mate :)

Weldone post & very important also.

so what is going on with this? is anyone going to do anything to fix this? or is this what decentralized looks like?
We either need to not allow people to down vote....
or there needs to be some sort of moderation...

I really don't know what is going on and have seen many people on here talking about this..

is this going to Kill Steem?

Hello @@@themarkymark and welcome to Steemit!
This is a great place with an excellent community - glad we have you!

Hey guys , I just made a new post about what to expect next on ethereum , check my page follow and upvote thanks

who is haejin and where was he born?

LoL, this is getting out of hand

hey very interesting friend your post, if you like art you can go to my last post will take a pleasant surprise

this is great. How do I join the @haejin regime?

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I didn't know down voting was possible! Does this guy have something against you?

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It's called "Flagging" on this system, using the flag icon to the top right of any comment or post.

Interesting let see what the future holds

I hope this situation gets sorted out soon.

Great move.

what about the posts with two lines and a photo or almost next to nothing content that makes 100z of dollars? No one replies to this question.

The reality of that would not make anyone worse off than are now

just look at the people trying to do that now !

Bienvenido ala mejor red social de todas
asi nomas quedo

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Bahahaha!!!!! Loveit!!😅

Since I'm a newbie here, I'm not quite sure about it but when I read it, its big news! Thank you @themarkymark for sharing!

WTF!!! why he is doing this?

Hi there @themarkymark ! I want to bring before you a sweet suggestion a wise man gave in dan's blogpost (the one that featured berny vs haejin) 2 days back:

  • The only solution of this problem is defining property boundaries.

I added that the above suggestion could be easily implemented through communities. Anybody outside a community will not have access to the community.

No flags, no upvotes.

All upvotes will be generated in SMT of the community. The value of SMTs will be proportional to SP in the coomunity account.

Important Change to Steemit, effective immediately.. The old man can change this world
@janvanhoess

wow this is over my head im a newbie but its quite scary to hear all the stuff going down with haejin : s I dont understand.

I just gave the guy 10 DOWNVOTES! Do the same everyone!

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This all started because the crazy communist berniesanders used 60 accounts to downvote everyone who disagreed with him.

haejin and a lot of us tried to reason with him, before haejin started paying back in the same way.

Don't you become a second Stalin Sanders, please. Nothing good will come from that.

I really don't want to go into all of this... But I have to ask:

Where do you get those stats from ups & downvotes? - Really cool to see the actual amount.

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He's using Ginabot on Discord, but you can use Steemworld.org/@[username], without the square brackets.

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Cool, thank you!

I am a newbe here and actually had some interaction with the individual in question. Similar to some others on this thread, why is there such a hatred for this man? Please forgive my ignorance, only been here a few days.

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Because he is very successful and heavily rewarded by his followers for his posts... Others think that the money/reward pool should be spread out "more evenly". The problem is steemit, not haejin. He is using the platform like he is supposed to, by creating valuable content. he is not breaking any rules, even if he uses bots, as his attackers uses bots too..

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Not followers but a follower to be precise. Yes, he has a lot of upvotes but mainly the rewards come from one account upvoting him.

This sounds like Digg all over again. Digg was a website just like Steemit, where users contributed stories and stories that got a lot of "diggs" (upvotes) rose to the top. Anyways, there were powerusers of Digg that controlled all of the content. Their stories would always make it to the top and the rest of us little guys without followings struggled to ever make it to the front page.

This is a real big concern for Steemit because this is a community driven by monetary gain. You can't just shrug it off as "no big deal" because money is at stake. It's possible that you could be the first to post some hot piece of news happening in the world and your story gets buried because the powerusers of Steemit with huge following decide to write the same story as you. You won't have a chance.

LOL i love this! @Haejin for Steemit President!!!

-160 is too much for us. I believe it didn't hurt your savings boss lol

Nice post interesting concept

He can quit his day job for sure

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I think he has.. That´s the dream right :)

If I have 10 wet shirts and it takes ten min. for each shirt to dry, how long will it take me to dry all my shirts on a clothesline?

Please I need help with this...

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If you can put all 10 wet shirts on the same clothesline, it will take a total of 10 minutes for all your shirts to dry.

This is honestly one of the funniest things I've read all day. The drama and stories surrounding this questionable "member " of the community makes for great source material to work with. Great post Mark!

By the by folks, I'm new to steemit, and I'm glad to be a part of this new platform. If there's If theres any tips you've all got for a newbie like me I'd appreciate them. Thanks everyone!

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Well done for not begging for the up vote. Write about your day to day life, take videos, pictures, etc... Create enjoyable content and the people will come as well as the votes.

Seriously I never know about what happening , what so many power people here on steemit barking each other. maybe because i never knew all about. because I am new here and I never understand what is gonna be here. would you help me or somebody tell me. how to earn and how to make a little profits..

Hahhahhaha

So who is haejin?

@themarkymark As a new steemiter, I would like to thank you for taking a brave stance against this cult!

All are the same. No change is special.

but is it allowing to upvote during curation ??? I dont see it anymore

Wait, did we get transported into Harrison Bergeron? :O

Also, Mark, I can definitely understand why you snapped, but it's sad to see it happen :(

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Nah, I'm cool didn't snap. Just starting a revolution.

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The problem with revolutions is they lead us right to where we left off. That's even the meaning of the word.

Your Thinking Ability is great this tell us what's going on

So, form now we need approval for posting anything???

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Seems like it, having USSR flashbacks! Lol

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Please vote me @darmian23

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Ron Burgandy!!!😆😅

haha... you had me going on that one.

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wait how in the world do you downvote a post?

I see he declined payout on some posts. That's gracious of him. Maybe he was visited by 3 ghosts at Xmas

It's an important post! I think we all need to know this important change! so, can I translate it to spanish?