@haejin pleads to have have his 10,000 followers not vote me for witness

in haejin •  4 months ago

This is @haejin's latest attempt to silence me and get his zealots to attack in any fashion they can. If you haven't read my post on the Future of Steemit I recommend checking it out. It gives a full rundown of how we got to the point we are today where one user is on track to make millions mostly from one user upvoting his 10+ posts/day around $300 each.


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Only 5,000 or so of @haejin's followers are active, and about 4,990 of them have less than 5 Steem Power. If you don't know what the typical @haejin follower is like have a look at my recent post.

You can flag all day, and just show how much of a dick you really are and bring more and more awareness to your abuse. I have been here far longer and have done far more for this community than you have and I will be here far longer. In fact, I actually understand it is a community, not your own little cash register.

Not only do you want to rape the reward pool you want to shut up anyone who has anything to say about it. You already tried to destroy the Steem Poker League community as well as others.

Tell Craig he has to work on his customer service, his customers don't seem happy.

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I voted for you as a witness a while back, before all this haejin stuff happened, i will not change my vote. No amount of pleading is going to sway that..... If he is really that desperate to get rid of you @themarkymark then why doesnt he jist use his whale to bribe people with 100% upvotes to take their vote back? Because its all just for show so he gets more followers.....

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His followers are not much of the think for themselves sort.

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Nope, i see them as haejin is the hearder. His followers are his sheep.

But i'm no sheep, no matter how much power you have, i will not be afraid of you. I'm my own man and nobody will sway my personal opinion with a slander post.

Thanks for being a true steemian @themarkymark

-Patrick

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How do we know that his followers are not fake accounts? If one was clever, this could be done with a few employees - which would be well worth the expense.

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I believe some are looking at voting speeds. It is very possible they are real and they are loyal to him but they give nothing to community. Very few have more than the default 0.05 Steem Power and most of them don’t post. They only resteem Haejin and comment.

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Hello @themarkymark and @binaryuniverse, nice to e-meet you! I imagine you've already read this @behindsteemit contribution (https://steemit.com/steemit/@behindsteemit/behind-steemit-16-haejin-voting-circle-berniesanders-right) that partially confirms your suspicion, binary.

A part of his followers accounts is fake... and another part is critical about his behaviour (I confess I do follow his threads, but it doesn't mean I support their content, haha, and I bet we're many Steemians doing so).

Mark, I'm gonna send you right now my Witness vote. Keep up being yourself :-)

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And why doesn't he set up a witness and a rpc node?
If he has the power and the followers, it would be easy for him to be a witness.
He would also show, that he is interested in the community and not only here for profit and easy money.

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Witnesses are supposed to give a shit about the blockchain and community. His god complex denies him that ability.

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Oh Yes thats true

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Yah, his witness and seed node would help the community, especially with about 19 seed nodes active currently

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I FOLLOWED YOU.. ARE YOU FOLLOW ME ???PLEASE

Take a break from this futile war! Come over to @steemsilvergold and spread a little LOVE instead!

Whale Wars 1.jpg
https://steemit.com/haejin/@sirstacksalot/whale-wars-give-peace-and-steemsilvergold-a-chance

I'm beginning to wonder if you guys are playing off each other to create some sort of Steemit melodrama. It's a cool look at the evolution of performance art, capitalizing off Steemit in a Kardashian sort of way.

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I wish that was all it was. I really do.
I'd honestly love to just go back to posting tutorials and about cool technology. There is zero point for me to blog at this point as it just gets downvoted -$300.

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Yeah, I feel that you could have gotten swept up in something, and am sorry if my comment came across as hurtful.

I recall similar posts betweeen @haejin & @berniesanders last week. While it may not be as fun to post about for you, this storyline is probably the most compelling content on Steemit right now for the semi-new, semi-serious Steemian.

Hopefully the infighting won't last forever, but I do think it will be a compelling footnote and history lesson posts will be made about it if Steem continues to grow and thrive.

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Where are the whales at for supporting you? Why aren't whales stepping in? Have you asked around?

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No one likes getting flagged or not getting ROI from their voting power. As a minnow all I can do is write.

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Sort of wondering about that angle myself lol

This brings you a lot of popularity right now, it just has the oposite effect. I have voted for you as a witness since last night when I have read your first articles on the topic, even though I was considering voting for you for a longer time :)

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Thank you, I appreciate it.

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My thoughts exactly.

Can you dial down the drama? You guys are acting like Jr High Girls before cheerleading practice.

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Right, I actually agree with you here. @themarkymark I think you need to step up and be the bigger guy here. Calling for people to not vote for you as witness is not a measure to silence you.

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the -$300 downvotes are the measure to silence me, the calling for people to un-witness me is an attempt to cause more damage and harass.

How am I not the bigger guy? I never flagged him, I never sent 10000 followers to attack him, I never sent endless threats. I presented facts and proof to back it up and I have become primary target #1 for their campaign.

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You are convincing but I have been following this guy since he literally made 2 usd and ~50 views per post. It went on for months. What mind thinks of a long con like that?

Too much misinformation here for average Joe. Some influential parties have not yet been revealed I guess.

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I am skeptical but I am very open-minded he may be as good as people claim, that's not the issue at hand. The problem is the $380 votes 10 or more times a day from a shared reward pool primarily from one voter.

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Well ok, I can see why this may be a problem. But I do not understand why the focus is not on rancho as he is the one with the voting power. I have not been able to find evidence they are operating under the same flag. If anything blockchain info points to the contrary. (Perhaps you can enlighten me)
If Haejin would stop blogging and rancho would instead start upvoting you, would you stop Steeming?

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You said he launched and all out war on you with death threats. That's illegal. Can you provide proof?

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It's all on the blockchain, there are zillion messages I got here and in private.

Here is an example.

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Is @tt-dogg another account of @haejin? Did @haejin personally send you death threats?

Look man, if you really did receive death threats why don't you contact Steemit INC? They have the right to shutdown any account involved in illegal activities on this platform. Also, contact the police.

These flag wars will not solve anything. Both sides act like a bunch of spoiled little kids who argue about who and how they should use the toys they've been given.

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Maybe bigger than that just by a bit. I'm just agreeing with @whatsup, perpetuating the drama has little value, especially for the casual reader. But then what, ignore it? No I don't say that so I appreciate your dilemma and know that I do support you, not because of the beef war but because I like your style.

Maybe I could revise and say: continue to be the bigger guy and continue to say what is true. Call silencing silencing. Call denouncements (which is what the witness disenfranchisement call is) denouncements.

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I can't post normal posts as he flags them, even posts where I give away money. He completely flagged Steem Poker League so their rewards for their community were zero'd because someone disagreed with him.

If no one says anything, he will take even more than $66K/week, my estimates if he wasn't flagging and was getting a full week worth puts him around $150K-$200K/week for posting charts. This is money taking out of a shared reward pool.

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But then what, ignore it? No I don't say that so I appreciate your dilemma [...]

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Steem..
come for the money ..
stay for the drama!

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@themarkymark is not being dramatic. I am addicted to drama so I would know! He is being altruistic for the community. Steemit is a very good idea and he seems committed to the original ideals.

This subject could decide the fate of steem.

The growth will not exponentiate if the funds are not distributed among new users.

The community will band together and resolve this issue together. Hopefully fine-tuning the community and leading to a better platform for everyone that is not corrupt. Voted for you as a witness good luck.

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I FOLLOWED YOU...ARE YOU WANT TO FOLLOW ME????

Voting for you as witness.

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Thanks mate


Sometimes it pays to just "Step away from the keyboard"

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This flag war needs to stop. No one is winning and we are losing!

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good work man

Hello friend, I again, neither against nor in favor in this war, but maximum enemy of the flags. The stage that I feared has arrived.
The best blockchain, more capacity, faster, cheaper, decentralized, consensual, democratic ... but with flags. Flags that in the hands of groups of economic power can force the change in the consensus of witnesses. By alienation of population groups, by boredom of harassed witnesses ...
Remember "Video Killed the Radio Star" ?
Maybe soon we have to sing "flag killed by blockchain star"

but most like to choose someone like you as a witness @ themarkymark and i will ask all my friends from indonesia. to choose you as a witness

FYI -- I made it a point to go and give you my witness vote after that BS.

All we need is positive energies in order for this community to grow, let’s shun all this

Something else I need to learn. I have no idea what a witness is LMAO. This Steem Community is so intriguing to me! Are you all fighting and creating drama on purpose does this make money for everyone? I'm just asking i'm not sure who is getting hurt for real monetary wise. Thanks

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The fighting is counterproductive but it is required to raise awareness and get people to pull their head out of the sand.

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So are you applying to become a witness? And if so how do I vote for you?

Haejin has brought a lot of new users to Steemit over the last 4-5 months. It makes sense that they including myself have little to no steem power. Not everyone is going to invest right away. It takes time to build wealth.

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They all have 0.50 SP, and no posts. Just attacking people who disagree and praising @haejin. Zero involvement in Steemit. Could just have a mailing list for that matter.

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2657 of his followers never posted anything.
How much time do you think they are going to need to build wealth from .. nothing?

has anybody tried to talk to the whale who upvotes him most?

I think it is not a problem he writes 10 posts per day.. I would do it too if it didnt take me 1 - 5 hours to prepare one post with a painting or tutorial...

I get about $7 from people who have me on autovoter and it is enough for me to avoid posting more at the expense of quality...

I know it is a difference.. art and financial advice.. but there should be some limits.. this is a great deal of money and the fact there are at least a few people who dont agree with the reward means something is not right...

but what is it? This sitution is the result of a system rules. The system allows to use masive votes through autovoter, to use massive votes on our own posts in any time and to post 10 times a day, so here it is.

And it also allows to flag someone if we dont agree with the reward.. When we summarize it, both sides act according to the rules, so I dont see a winner in this matter if the rules wont change... that is how I understand it..

@themarkymark just thought I'd tell you i just started following you and i support your cause. I also saw you have Firefly on your wallpaper and I work for the STUDIO that did ALL the effects for Firefly. We have tons of props in our workplace. Can you assist me by welcoming me to Steemit and helping me get some followers and likers lol :) thanks so much

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That's awesome. Got any pics?

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sure man ill do a post about it today / tomorrow... add me on. I think we have the Spaceship Door in the mess hall here lol

nice post and I am gonna vote 4 u

where one user is on track to make millions mostly from one user upvoting his 10+ posts/day around $300 each.

How does this work? Does he have like 10000 bots? One dude mashing a button? Sounds pretty easy to scam the system.

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There are many individuals on Steemit who actually have multiple accounts, some run into the hundreds. It's a fairly trivial to give a bot voting rights on 99 of those accounts and have the bot upvote your main account to megabucks. @shelockholmes was doing a brilliant job of exposing these individuals https://steemitstage.com/@sherlockholmes sadly he has disappeared. I just hope he wasn't threatened or worse? While it's brilliant that there is effectively no controls on Steemit it is both sickening and annoying that some scumbags are more than willing to spoil it for the rest of us and there's nobody to do anything about it.

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The freedom that Steemit gives us does open it to abuse, but I think a lot of the community care about making it better. I hope that's enough.

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apparently not.

7884 of his Followers never voted for any witness.
Combined those have 4353739 STEEM.
That is 8920415502 VESTS for voting

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I'd love to know how many users 95% of that 4353739 STEEM is from. Because I'm going to guess at least 90% of them have 0.50 SP.

Keep fighting man. Thanks for what you are doing

Forgive me, I am new to Steemit. I keep seeing these posts on someone called Haejin and everyone is either for or against him. Can anyone explain me who he is and why he is getting so much attention?

I see he is getting a lot of the rewards.. but arent there many big accounts like that?

EDIT: I think I understand the situation now. Im glad a consensus has been reached in the community.

What if haejin is actually Kim Jon-un trying to fund his nuclear program?

I started posting on Steemmit over to weeks ago and all this news really eye opening. I do not know how everything works and your post really helped me to understand some mechanics here.Thank you.

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I started posting on Steemmit over to weeks ago and all this news really eye opening. I do not know how everything works and your post really helped me to understand some mechanics here.Thank you.I hope my vote will help you to keep good work

Well that's a good reason to give you my vote. That guy needs to get a life.

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Thank you, much appreciated.

I find it an abuse that there are people who are dedicated to manipulating people and they do not realize how @haejin does. Thank you for your arguments so successful, really thank you. Best regards.....

I have been trying to understand this conflict between you and haejin but I'm not sure how/when it started. I was looking to see if you could do a video and break it down with a few bullet points. Right now as I look across STEEM i see tons of users out there trying to make there post worth more using whales or bots or some other system so what is making this person/code different. It would seem that if everyone is upvoting him that his content must be valued by the community. Are you asking other to just ignore him, unfollow him, down vote him. Thanks for you time.

Good evening steemian I would like to wish you good luck to my friends and do not forget the voting got me

I just wish other members of this community would help step in and squash this issue for good rather then let it drag out.

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Some big whales have taken pot shots, but there is just so much it requires a lot of stake to be sacrificed and opens them to abuse.

i am new here whom to support?

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Whoever you believe in.

Great post @themerkymark :) upvoted and resteemed

Good job, please help vote post my blog

nice post.another vote for u.

Not sure how I found the voting page lol but I voted for you Man! I have a feeling you are good for this community

Hi.. my name is anjorica I need more friend here and Im new here wish to have a friend like you thanks I allready upvoted your post..

Follow me pls @anjorica

he has been on a vendeta againest most people who have called him outand he uses his followers to flag his attackers articles

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Yup, I posted I'm going on the radio tonight, bam -$50 flag.

Not only is he doing malicious flagging, he is trying to censor and control the conversation.

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It is fine now because they reached an agreement.

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There is absolutely nothing about the agreement that changes anything besides AT BEST slowing down the process for 13 weeks while the dramatic ones feel they have contributed to some type of success.

The drama was stirred and escalated brilliantly towards a false solution and now you are TOLD that some group of people have the ability to broker a deal on the community's behalf and if you don't like shut the fuck up or get flagged.

Absolutely played like a fiddle.

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I totally agree I'm not happy with the agreement because it changes almost nothing. No one wanted to do anything about it.

You said it yourself.

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I flagged, I got flagged, I made a post. :) Screaming and drama is not "doing something".

My conclusion is this is a "big stake holders" problem to fix. (Crab buckets and equal players)

I don't like how any of it was handled (or not handled) there is very little I can do about it. If the other big players can't or will not act... They have more invested than I do.

The whole situation isn't a game breaker, but it is disappointing to me. I've wasted enough time looking at it.

this post very nice..upvote and resteemit done..

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i am little bit steemers..i am very very sorry this comments..please withdraw flag..

This makes me sad, ill vote for you marky :)

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It makes me sad that @haejin resorts to such abuse however ineffective it is.

Thanks ;)

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I am so confused ! who is haejin and what is the matter about because i m new to steemit and i am sorry to say that i am so confused