You Don’t Need A Leader.

in freedom •  6 months ago

He’s running to be the star of his own show. Numerous threats and insults to fellow anarchists, men, women, and children, display that he’s got some real issues.

Does he want people to be free? Probably. I think at heart he is a good person. Do his actions support this claim? No, not really.

Anyone that disagrees with him is a “coward” (Larken Rose), a “troll” (me), or “mentally disturbed” (former treasurer Angela Owens, ex-girlfriend Macey).

He’s upvoted comments calling for people to be literally killed, and been explicitly notified of this, and refuses to address it. He has threatened 9-year-olds with lawsuits and losing their parents.

That’s all “personal stuff” though, KafkA! So what?!

The worst thing is that he has called upon Voluntaryists to “put down the ideology” (what ideology do we have, save individual self-ownership, and why would I ever “put that down”?).

I’ve suffered a bit as far as reputation for talking about this. But you know, you can’t hold two mutuallly exclusive positions. You can’t say you'll be the central “custodian,” redistributing resources and making policy, and simultaneously that everyone can ignore your policy.

There is a cult of personality. I’ll be crucified for pointing it out maybe. But the “crucifixion” of internet vitriol is laughable to me, and sad.

He may be man who means well at heart, but no man is fit to rule another, and displace the free market as the central authority. Fingerprints for homesteading?

Federal elections can grant authority?

Centrally planned distribution of resources in favor of local free markets and supply and demand deciding?

This is politics, not voluntaryism.

(mail me @voluntaryjapan@protonmail.com for proof/corroboration of all this).

Fuck federal elections and Sunday school leaders. Get free. For yourself.

~KafkA

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Delegating responsability to a leader is way easier than assuming your own... This is what leaders take advantage of: Confidence and trust.

Inconsistencies should be pointed out. That's what friends do. If someone rejects your efforts to point out their inconsistencies, THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIEND. Period. End. No further discussion is required.

Absolutely.. I don't like the federal system at all.. In today's world no one can lead someone without his own cravings getting effectuate, his desires getting fulfilled,a biggest counterfeiting system it is....so as u say, get free.. For yourself...

I thought it was funny that during the debate mediated by @shaneradliff the controlled schizophrenic Kokesh said to shoot him if he re-nigged on his "plan" Why would he even bring that up?

freedom..
one word but has so many meaning. depends on how a person mean it. if you feel free without a leader so that's is freedom. go ahead kafkanarchy.

i agree with your title..

The threat problems, appear to be a standing issue. (as well as ad hominem attacks)

The part that I read him (Kokesh) as very sincere is his perspective on dismantling as much government as possible and establishing a clear mandate that the future direction is to decentralize.

That is where his position and my own align.

There shouldn't have to be a calling to 'unite for the cause' when the cause is that extensive.(nearly the entire lower right side of the political map)

Also, there are differences in whether engaging against the establishment is useful. I've been observing the damage machine stumble along since the late 1980s and every time it has come close to stumbling off the cliff it gets propped back up again.

I understand the 'defect' position, and think for those of us that do it well, we prosper, but the damage machine continues to crush people all over the nation and probably worldwide.

Maybe it's my impatience shining through, but if the notion of an engagement action has a chance to cut it down to size, and shorten it's lifecycle by 20 years, well I have to weigh it.

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How does he stand a chance, to your thinking?

I just don’t understand how dumping thousands of dollars of resources into a political campaign is going to change anything.

Presidential executive orders cannot end the federal government.

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It's uncertain what chance he has. The one glaring problem in social science is that there is no certainty of human events.

What is certain, is without him, there is no chance, just more of the same.

I don't have much to say one way or another about wasting resources. Taking 20 years off the lifecycle of the damage machine may have a pretty good ROI. How many resources are being milked out of fiat currency per day?

Executive orders are doing many things they were never designed to do. Might as well test the limitations of something currently stretched beyond reason.

For the record, i'm not try to sway you at all. I recognize you have a well defined position, and i have no problems with it.

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It's uncertain what chance he has.

Even if he were elected, which is an astronomically huge if, executive orders don’t work like that. That’s just reality.

What is certain, is without him, there is no chance, just more of the same.

Why? Is he some kind of messiah? I am bewildered by this attitude, and it seems to me to betray, no offense, a critical misunderstanding of individual self-ownership, and what Voluntaryism is all about.

It’s already happening. Individuals everywhere are building the new systems and ways of being. The idea that if we get political, the beast will magically decide not to be murderous and angry just floors me. Why would the state vote itself out of power? The game is rigged, and rigged games don’t let good people in. And even if they did, no man has the right to rule another.

Executive orders are doing many things they were never designed to do.

Do you honestly believe these families who hold virtually unlimited power on earth are going to let a function they created end their power?

Sorry man, but that idea seems so nonsensical to me.

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No, he is no messiah, and i completely understand the problem with any claims on Voluntaryism when discussing state action.

People everywhere have been building new systems for thousands of years, yet people are 'social' animals and there are repeating themes in path dependencies.

It probably will be nonsensical. Hell that's what statism is to start with, no doubts that's where it will end.

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He's just trolling people for his own benefit. There's nothing good to come from the campaign. It's a joke on the people supporting it.

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Very well could be, and it's an obvious angle when money is involved.

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To me it seems opting into the political game instead of engaging in innovation and sound principle is repeating the same theme...

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I don't know if it is about opting in or out. There is very near half the population genetically born as political gamers.

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It's a deeper issue than that even. We, those of us who refuse to be ruled, need to find a way to coexist with the vast majority who do want to be ruled.

We will not find that solution by participating in a system designed, on purpose of course, to be run by oligarchs and to give the majority the illusion of power.

The majority has no real power. They don't pick the candidates. They will never have the same amount of influence over politicians that the oligarchs have either.

I'm not sure what amount of that majority is just ignorant compared to those within it simply having decided to give up liberty for supposed safety.

As I have written a few times lately, the majority are dangerous robots. They won't care when us liberty lovers are silenced, and they certainly will not come to our aid.

They are cowards and refuse to accept the individual responsibility that comes along with individual liberty. Can we change enough people into warriors and reverse that situation?

I doubt it.

We need to hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Our worst situation is that we'll always be outnumbered. How do we survive on this planet then knowing that to most likely be our future?

it is inspire me.."You Don’t Need A Leader."'

Gee @kafkanarchy I think you and Kokesh really need to end this. I like you both but this back and forth Benefits no one. I really don't like seeing posts like this. I know you've said you tried reaching out to him in the past, but I still think this issue should be addressed outside steemit.

Then again, what do I know. Am just a nobody

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The objective is the priority, not the individuals on the journey. Adam's objective is not mine. There's nothing to end. Either someone is working towards the same objective and a friend, or they are not and an enemy.

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I have nothing to end. I’ve been saying the same thing the whole time. Tried to address it outside Steemit. No response.

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If you can't talk about something like this in a public forum then why the hell talk about it at all

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Don't get me wrong @mlgcrypto, am not saying he shouldn't talk about it in public. All I'm saying is that they've been at it for a while now and it'll in no way benefit the libertarian cause. Once divisions deepen, the message weakens. It sounds cliche but I've seen it play so many times to know it's true.

They are the two most popular Libertarians on Steemit, how in the World can this further the cause? Especially if Steemit grows like we hope

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If a message and plan being promoted by a key figure is not libertarian, doesn’t that weaken the cause? Shouldn’t attention be brought to that?

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I don't believe in that "don't punch right" philosophy. Libertarianism is all about freedom, we argue that we should allow those in favor of societies worst ills should be allowed to speak because once they step into the ring of ideological debate, they will be shut down and hopefully swayed towards the light by sound logic & reason.

If we cannot practice this amongst each other then all is lost.

Hey @kafkanarchy84 I can see you are feeling a little hot and probably don't want to fuck with me. No worries man. I just hope that things are resolved sooner rather than later because cool heads always prevail (maybe you're cool as a fan and I've just misread your tone).

I'm definitely not trying to get into the middle of this but I like everything I've read of yours and think you bring so much good to the world you are above letting this negativity get the best of you. So please don't let it.

Keep doing what you do best and trust that the truth will out in the end. And after all you can't change anyone's mind about anything, just keep shining like a lighthouse so you don't have to feel like a tugboat dragging everyone in one at a time.

Much love dude. Things work out the way they're supposed to 😊

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Maybe you’re right.

I appreciate the encouragement, @naturowlmystic. I’ll consider what you’ve said.

It’s just, here we’ve got a guy, telling people he’s a voluntaryist, and collecting their hard earned money for a plan and ideas that often have nothing to do with, and are even antithetical to voluntaryism.

I want people to care, but perhaps I am trying too hard.

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