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RE: They Tear Families Apart in the Name of Child Protection, Which is Why We are Starting Familly Protection, A support Group For Families that Need Protecting.

Once I have my new site up, one of the agenda items will definitely be to see about getting legislation in place to make it a criminal act to take children from their families without a criminal trial by jury on a claim of criminal neglect or criminal abuse.

Right now, these agencies can do just about whatever they want for any reason... and they receive funding based on how many children they take.

A good first step would be to require that before the removal of a child even be considered the parents would have to be convicted of a real crime against the child in a jury trial (no forced plea bargains, etc.).

Notice that such a first step would require a criminal complaint sworn under oath before any action at all could be taken at all by CPS.

None of this "someone called and told us" garbage that could be (and sometimes is) made up out of thin air and used to take children simply because the parents are rather poor by societies standards.

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Hi @tony.jennings, Your new site sounds interesting, please keep us posted.

They seem to be above the law, they are getting very aggressive with the rate they are taking children and for reasons that are unrealistic.

We are taking a step in the right direction just by talking about it, and when enough people are talking about it then something can start to be done about this situation.

Thanks for your input, its very much appreciated.

Bless.

Thanks markwhittam.

The site I'm building is meant to be a springboard for everyone to start putting political pressure on the politicians (and maybe even start replacing them) to do what the vast majority of people can agree on rather than focusing on our differences.

By creating a platform that allows us to track who is opposing things, who is supporting them, and more easily take actions to make our voices heard in government I'm hoping we might start moving back towards actual freedom. Yes, I'm a dreamer...

Anywise, I know of some victims of CPS myself... anyone that believes that children are better off being raised by "the state" or "families that collect a paycheck for having them" than they are with their actual parents (excepting in extreme circumstances) is delusional.

Love is much more important than wealth. And the love of a parent is almost always going to be superior than being raised by either those calling themselves the state (there are serious horror stories related to children going "missing") or uncaring people that simply want cash for putting up with other peoples children.

Yes tony.jennings I actually believe we are making steps towards real freedom because of dreamers like yourself.

With platforms like steemit the truth will be heard.

Please consider following @familyprotection for related posts and updates and please inform us when your site is up so we can support it. :)

Bless

.. and they receive funding based on how many children they take.

and we thought asset forfeiture was atrocious

More of the same as far as I'm concerned... but definitely more twisted.

Want some horror stories?

Read the first few results turned up carefully for a search on "cps makes money for taking children.

A quick search for "cps loses children" and "cps child trafficking" turns up all kinds of horrific stories that you probably will end up wishing you had never read.

CPS should be expunged as far as I'm concerned. It's not "for the children" but rather "for the cash". Children are being stolen on pretense every day.

Asset forfeiture is another thing on my chopping block... as it too should be a criminal act without a criminal conviction by a jury in a proper court of law.

Why do I favor conviction by jury? Because those of us that are paying attention and making sure we are eligible for jury duty could potentially use jury nullification to help each other and eventually make such criminal legislation become dead letters.

Do I sound out there? Maybe. But in the two decades since I was a teenager the world has become much worse... and I believe that part of the problem is those (like me) that have stayed out of the political system because it is corrupt. With todays technology there is no reason we cannot get organized and start to turn things around.

People need to understand the power they actually have through jury nullification.

I completely agree. I've abstained from politics all of my life (until recently) because I believe the system to be corrupt.

It is corrupt, but if those of us who see as much refuse to participate then we continue to allow those who corrupt our lives (and those of our children) to turn us down a dark road.

WE, as people, have the capacity to say NO. We can vote our values, save our fellows, and turn any (and all) bad legislation into dead letters.

I truly wish that I had my current comprehension two decades ago... but it took me almost a decade to unlearn that which I had been conditioned too in our public schools... and even now I have to look closely at that which I believe to weigh what is a product of the system and what is a product of factual knowledge.

If we wake up and start saying "not guilty" to non-crimes then the corruption in the system will end tomorrow. We do have the power... but we mostly fail to realize it.

Thats is very true. It is a power that should be wielded more often

You're doing more damage to the state just by using crypto currencies, than you ever will via the political process.
It doesn't need reform; it needs to become another closed chapter in human history.

I agree that the chapter needs to come to a close and that currently much can be done via crypto-currencies.

However, I'd point out that crypto-currencies rely on electrical power, networks of phone lines, and technologies that are controlled by the people that run the system... and could easily be expunged by simply turning off the lights or heavily restricting access to any one of these things.

I've been against politics all of my life (and still am as far as using politics to force anything on anyone) but have come to believe that if we use every tool in the tool box we could turn things around much more quickly and with much more eventual strife.

When I was young I refused to take part in either political process or legal process as both are corrupt.

Eventually I realized that wrapping my head around the legal process provided many tools that have allowed me to be much more effective in refusing to comply with over stepping legislation.

Today, I've come to feel that becoming involved in politics provides a platform for offering alternatives to authoritarianism... so I'm jumping in finally as I want to be able to ask pointed questions, point out logical fallacies, and voice rational alternatives to more of the same publicly.

Will I change the world? No. Will I help to wake some people up? I hope so.

I've given this a lot of thought; and my conclusion, at least my current conclusion, is that serving policemen are the state.
Everyone else is just talking; they're threatening, and backing up those threats.
So by all means run for office, work in the public sector or campaign however you see fit.

If I actually do ever run for office it will be to focus on expunging and opposing authoritarian legislation, ending corrupt practices, and supporting/initiating legislation to replace authoritarian legislation with viable alternatives.

That being said I'm a long way off from any such thing at this point. Of course, I have a large extended family and if I ever do take an office they will all be rolling on the floor.

Imagine a mayor standing up in public and making the following statement:

It's come to my attention that CPS officials are knocking on peoples doors and taking peoples children without due process of law.

If a CPS official comes to your door without a lawful warrant that is supported by affidavit and signed by a judge please refuse to let them enter your home until they produce such a warrant.

If they force their way into your house please call me and I'll help you file a police report and start a lawsuit against them.

There would probably be a media storm within a week and I'd likely be tossed out shorty afterwards. That or I'd have an "accident" or "sudden health problem".

Police who refuse to enforce legislation against people are not police for long. They either quit in disgust or are fired for not meeting quotas.

100% agree.

Do I sound out there?

absolutely not

our problem is separating out information and acting on it to make the most difference...keeping in mind normalcy bias/ostrich effect

  • "conspiracy theory" that is too "far out" for people to accept, whther it is possibly true or not
  • "conspiracy theory" that is likely, but unproveable
  • crimes that are obvious, but that people do not want to recognize because it forces them out of comfort zones
  • crimes that are obvious, but that are subject to corruptocrat #informationwar, and can be countered by the same tactics

We should focus on the last two categories, and CPS abuse belongs in both, along with situations such as Rotherdam in England

I wish I had the above clearly explained to me two decades ago.

I've always been a bit of a fire brand, perhaps because I stepped past fear of the establishment a very long time ago.

But for many years I had a hard time reaching people because I'd point out things that all too often fell into some mix of the top three.

Another problem (at least for me historically) has been arguing instead of asking questions designed to get others to find the answers for themselves if they had interest.

By arguing (even when I could tie things together nicely into a logical progression and offer proof) I mostly just put people into a defensive mindset.

By asking the right questions, many discussions these days eventually end up with people at least entertaining the idea that something is wrong and sometimes even starting to ask questions themselves... even if they eventually find out that something has been "debunked" and so stop looking for the truth because they don't continue to ask questions.

there has been a tipping point;

These problems have gotten worse, the politicians have started becoming more blatant about not at least paying lip service to voters, and information has gotten so much easier to attain over the last 20 years.

So you have the Ministry of Truth telling Germans that their wives and children AREN'T being sexually assaulted by Muslim immigrants, or telling American workers their jobs AREN'T being displaced by Mexican immigrants, and then call them racist for complaining about these things , a market for "alt" ideas sprouts!

Ten years ago, I mocked many of Alex Jones's claims; I have turned around quickly on several since...the ones that were the second two categories!

As far as knowing how to manipulate people, or to know how they are manipulated, it's not a skill nice people pick up until they see a need to. I too wish I had spent less time goofing around as a young man and instead learning how to play this game.

Thanks!

I attempted to use jury nullification during my code compliance trial after the SWAT raid at the @gardenofeden. I was super unprepared and inexperienced for the disgusting tactics they use in court. But, to make a long story short, we handed out pamphlets outside the court house to all who entered. The first thing the judge did when the courtroom opened, was to make everyone who received one of those pamphlets turn them in saying something like: This information has no validity here. I am the one who will give you instructions and tell you how this court runs. Of course everyone complied. I would have done some things differently if I knew then what I know now. But this is just to show that the courts too are in on the whole control and deception (which most of us already know)--just one more showing of the layers we need to address in finding ways to implement and hold them accountable to deceiving the people.

They will do anything in their power to keep their control.

Lying is amazingly common... and the vast majority of people are so conditioned to obeying authority that very few will do anything other than what they are told.

Of course, it only takes 1 in 12 or so to completely nullify bad legislation... so if you end up in court (should rarely happen if you learn law... which reminds me that I need to continue that series here soon) and are fairly lucky you might not be convicted of things such as voluntary trade, ownership of plants, or other the myriad other things that are not bona fide crimes.

Then again, since jurors are pulled from the voter rolls... and most of us don't vote or register to do so... chances of that happening are worse than they might be otherwise unless you refuse a lawyer and base your entire case on swaying one of the jurors to declare you not guilty in the face of the legislation you are being charged with breaking. It has been done successfully... but is rare.

Not only will they do anything---they DO do anything!! It is sadly true that few people are awake enough to even know there is something wrong with the system. "That's just the way it is!" =(

I would love to read your series about the law. Ideally we don't end up playing their game in court, but when we do, we are definitely outnumbered by those who are in cahoots, and those who just do as they're told. I had a jury trial, and not a single one of those jurors was anything like one of my peers. They were all definitely dead sitting in those chairs, doing exactly what they were told with pasty faces, cast down eyes and droopy shoulders. So sad to see the life drained out of people, with no hope for anything that would make them feel alive!! There really is no such thing as "your day in court". Everyone is paid by the same people -- US! -- yet blindly working under the control of those who do not have the best intentions.

We are blessed to be creating a new world at the @gardenofeden. There is hope for the future if we step up to make it so.

Thanks for the response tony.jennings. It's great to connect with you.

Go go go @tony.jennings. Some of us need to stand up to what is, and others of us need to build a more life giving reality. Bringing awareness and creating change will be key. I love where you're going with this.

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