HF19 and eSteem feedback encouragement experiment changes

in esteem •  5 months ago

Now that we have HF19 enabled, you should be noticing quite big changes on your voting experience.

You are able to give more than before by upvoting.

Voting target change

Note use less voting weight (slider) if you see it.

On eSteem, change weight from Settings page or tap and hold vote button to select lesser voting weight.

Because voting target has changed as well, which means you should lower percentage to meet number of votes you do per day.

To catch up with daily auto-recharge of voting power you would
Previously

40 votes per day with 100% weight

Now

10 votes per day with 100% weight

In order to vote 40 times you should use 25% weight now.

eSteem feedback encouragement experiment

To accomodate changes, voting weight has been adjusted accordingly to not drain voting power too much. Feel free to continue reporting suggestions and feedbacks about eSteem with #esteem-feedback.

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Power now more concentrated, I'm just concern that may affect the Steem price in a negative way.

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Lets hope the little price drop on Steem as nothing to do with HF19, many coins going down today, it could be pretty much anything. I understand your concern, I just hope you are not right :D

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It's been bouncing around this price ($2.00) since Bitcoin corrected last week. Right now it's at 1.97. I wouldn't worry about it just yet.

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Since crypto coins are synonymous with volatility,we should not be worried at a slight drop since after that it will jump for sure.

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It will. More Steem means lower price for Steem.

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There isn't more Steem. There is the same amount of Steem as before.

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Then why do upvotes of lesser power yield more cash now? Or do they not?

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Because yesterday morning they changed the way the Steem is allocated in some ways that make small votes more powerful.

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If big votes did not become less powerful, and small votes earn more STEEM, then there is more STEEM being created during a same amount of time as before, which means inflation of STEEM grew.

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Where did I say big votes did not become less powerful?

Votes used to influence post payouts quadratically, now they influence linearly. Relatively speaking, small votes are now more powerful.

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Appreciate your reply. Do you know the answers to my questions in my root post in this link? https://steemit.com/steemit/@stimialiti/questions-about-steemit-monetary-system-part-1

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Steem to the moon, atleast $10!

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Thanks for Share! like your post and love it!

Thanks for info :)

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amazing post! Thank you so much good karma for upvoting my posts! Yeah ! I've noticed!
This is ridiculous!!!HF 19 is the best thing that happened to steemians yet...
I'm screaming like a little girl!
I even made $80 on 1 comment recently!

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hello friend am just new to steemit, please can u educate me on how to boast my post increase followers and steemit. am gonna follow you right away@dollarsguy

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https://steemit.com/steem/@adil/yes-complete-guide-on-steemit-4-0
I followed this guide that we made with my friends by researching

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$80 on one comment? WOW!!!

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Me too I forgot about the voting from 40 down to 10 votes. Thanks for the reminder.

Please Up Vote, Resteem and follow me @yehey
Thank you.

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hello friend am just new to steemit, please can u educate me on how to boast my post increase followers and steemit. am gonna follow you right away@dollarsguy

It is a great change!

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hello friend am just new to steemit, please can u educate me on how to boast my post increase followers and steemit. am gonna follow you right away@dollarsguy please do follow me back lets steemit

Your app is very useful.
But it's really hard to use it to write a post.
It always shut down suddenly.
And it always get lagging.
I am trying the desktop version and the mobile app.
They both lag.
Hope your softwares can run smoothly later.
I trust in you and always feel truly gratitude to you.
You help me, a newbie so much.
Thanks so much.

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Now that HF is behind us, release is coming soon with a lot of fixes, stay tuned! ;)

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hello friend am just new to steemit, please can u educate me on how to boast my post increase followers and steemit. am gonna follow you right away@dollarsguy please do follow me back lets steemit

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Sure, I'm going to write a post about it. If your following me then you'll see an update about it in my feed! :)

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YES! I have issues when on mobile. Very excited about future HFs.

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Unbelievable @ good-karma, Now HF is behind us, especially for me who is very beginner in eSteem, very grateful, like HF is like giving amnesty for prisoners who can forgive ,,,,, heheheh. Thank you @ good-karma, we the steemians always wait for the improvements

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hello friend am just new to steemit, please can u educate me on how to boast my post increase followers and steemit. am gonna follow you right away@dollarsguy please do follow me back lets steemit

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hello friend am just new to steemit, please can u educate me on how to boast my post increase followers and steemit. am gonna follow you right away@dollarsguy please do follow me back lets steemit

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Just read my resteem posts.
You can learn more about how to play this game. Actually I'm not good at this. Sometime the kind "whales" would share their steem power. Just ask for their. They are very kind. Good luck to you. 😁

Good to know where the strength at esteem goes, I had already searched, but not found. Thanks for this valuable information my friend! Steem On !!

Once again, thank you for establishing this amazing app @good-karma! I am gratful and thanksful the help furnished by you and your team, it really helps newbie like us a lot.
The changes brought by HF19 really shocked me, that was so amazing! Looking forward to your updates!

HF19 will seriously get more and more people involved here :) Excited to hit 500 followers soon!

That is awesome for all. Always good news with the hardwork of all those who strive for it. Thank you for all your hardwork my friends.

Very High and Incredible Information from you mr @ good-karma
You are great at providing all the information about steemit and making great progress
I will keep abreast of your mr. Not so @curiesea Thank you very much and wonderful for you sir good karma

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hello friend am just new to steemit, please can u educate me on how to boast my post increase followers and steemit. am gonna follow you right away@dollarsguy please do follow me back lets steemit

Big thanks for your work! You gave the minnows more opportunities.
Today l came to eSteem and was pleasantly surprised to see the Slider. I hope this is not a glitch because on Steemit I still have not enough Steem Power to get a slider. I tried to move it to 1% and make upvote - it works! It turns out that now I can give more upvotes without losing all my voting power.
Tell me my friend @good-karma that this is not a glitch, but a step towards the minnows.

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It is not glitch and eSteem always had that slider, only in order to access it you either have to tap and hold or go to Settings page to change default weight 😉 #powertousers

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It's amazing! Thanks!

That's wonderful @good-karma. You are so quick to adapt new changes. Kudos to you. Your app is really great to manage multiple accounts of steem. I really love it!!!

Though, not sure why since my last blog post and comments, I am not getting auto votes on my post/comments. Do I need to update the app after HF19? #esteem-feedback

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ha ha ha... This is crazy! 😀 The very comment I post with feedback gets the auto votes... Sorry about that. But I am not understanding why my other comments and posts didn't get the auto votes.They were as genuine as it can be! I know there is a mechanism to ignore some comments/posts for votes but it seems, it is affecting genuine posts too! Can you look into this please #estee-feedback.
Keep up the wonderful work man. You are helping lot of people like me... 👍👍👍

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Very warm welcome to steemit @dollarsguy. You can boast your posts by providing some very interesting and helpful content to the other members. Also, you can post comment on other members' post to engage in discussion. Start from there and you will grow quickly!

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thanks you can also help me by following me just as I have followed u. thanks... lets steemit.

I'm no longer lazy and consistently log in, and even comment/reply, on the app; mostly this is due to my growing Steemit addiction. Used the slider for changing voter percent. Really cool mate! It did cause the app to crash when I hit the up vote button. But, it did work so good stuff man! Keep up the good work and Steem on!

That's great. THANKS!

Im still pretty confused with the voting stuff. Do I get something back when I vote a comment or a post with 100%? What if I use my voting power to vote my own comments? Shouldn't Steemit disable the ability to vote for my own comments, ... its kinda strange.

Thanx this is so super exciting. Should I vote good posts with 100 % power and comments on 25%?

Just yesterday, I decided to start voting more, since I'm usually just posting. I wanted to invest more and give back, and boom, the next day they start rewarding it, kind of. I wasn't even paying attention to the update.

Steem is our new programs.. Steem gived more benefit to the user... I am very happy to be one of the user of steem.. I need to learn more about steem.. Please help me to find out how to make me close to steem faster.. I love steem..

This change is going to change STEEM and Steemit for the better, I made a post a about it just now on my account.

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By far the weirdest 24 hours on Steemit ever.

öhm was den jetzt los?
kann das gut gehen? ich meine ich freu mich wen es mehr belohnt wird

This is getting so much better. Steemit equality and awesomeness!

Yes, upvote value has been increased dramatically and getting reduced equally fast.

Such a great post! I have been using the app for quite a while now and I love it! I didn’t know about the bar before 1M vests so it gives small users like me the opportunity to control our votes without affecting our power that much. Thank you for the update! May the HF 19 be with all of you! ❤

that's great....

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Thank you for the information on this. Hopefully more voting is done on quality posting!

In a week there will be a huge supply of steem. This is massive inflation

Sorry stupid question probably but what does it mean use 25% weight?

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Not a stupid question at all. You have the ability to use 100% (weight) of your voting power per upvote. If you have over 500 SP on steemit, they automatically give you a sliding bar on your upvote tab to set what % (weight) of your voting power you want to use. However, if you use, esteem you can preset your percentage you want to use beforehand, no matter how much SP you have. The less % you use, the more votes you can have, but they will have proportionally less $ to be given. Does this make sense?

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It is gonna take ages for me to get to 500SP. I was so much more engaged in the site 2 days ago. I wish they could of changed this for minnows with the hard fork, today has been so slow and my voting power I feel is never coming back. I just use the PC so if people were gonna tell me about the app being able to change it... well I know but that doesn't help me. If you can do it on the phone app and be a minnow I think they should make the PC vote weight change available too for all minnows.

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If ages, is a few weeks, to months if you start from zero and post often then yes, it could take you ages. It's out there, you just have to find a way to get it! Make it yours!

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@good-karma, Whether I can still get a little incentive through the comments I wrote by using your esteem application? Thanks.

I cant to upvote and comment over esteem app, the message appear "broadcast" error, help please @good-karma

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Can you share screenshot, please?

Thank you for the good news

I can't seem to find the vote settings :(

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Are you on Settings page on eSteem mobile app?

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im on a PC using Google Chrome for Steemit website.

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Well, it's time you use the eSteem app them.. Or wait for the new desktop version... follow @good-karma

Great info as always @good-karma :) Thanks!

great post! Thanks for the heads up about the voting weight!

Thanks for clearing up any problems I had.
Happy Hardfork and Steemon!

This is awesome news man. Just followed you)

tnx for the info...just uovoted and followed u..i would be really greatful if u follow me too

Thanks for sharing those info, perfect for new people like me.
Upvoted!

My posts are worth so much more money now! That's nice to see.

Update: i just saw the answer about minimum 500 SP thanks

I can't find the slider. When i press on the little arrow it upvotes and i have no way to set the power. Am i doing something wrong?

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Yes, on Steemit there is that limit, but you can try eSteem until Steemit allows lowering weight, which I believe they are working on it....

Thank you for explaining this. I wasn't too for sure how it would work before.

Profit is up to 5-10 times on my last 2 post. Thank you for this good fork.

Thanks For your HF19 , We Very Glad For It !!
Steemit be Better ! STEEM ON !

Thank for your support since my beginning on Steem.
Now I wish I can give you some support. Thank you😉

Interesting. Thx for the info!

@good-karma great post and the projects your working on are top notch great work

Thanks for the update @good-karma Looks like great new for all :)

thankyou for more information ;) good post :)

This is awesome! Thank you for the update and the awesome work you and the other witnesses did. This is a ground breaking change.

One question I have is if the algorithm has a cap.say for example a blogger who wrties 2 post a day for everyday and each post makes 2000 USD or equivalent..and it just keep going like this? or the difficulty get adjusted according to quality of the post,duration, post earnings and payout???

Ufff! M so confused about all these new changes.
Thanks for this post it helped me a little to understand all this. :)))

Yep, I almost started wasting votes at 100%. However, I think I would still want to vote more than 10 times a day.

You are correct though I have noticed a huge difference!

Yeah! I love HF19
It's awsome
Thanks for important info

It definetely seems like HF 19 has been a success so far. The STEEM market for pretty shakey but seems to be trying to stabilize close to where it was before.

It's been a good day so far! Heh.

Thank you very much dear friend @ good-karma for this explanation
have a beautiful day

Hi, thank you for the update. I just made my first post on steemit using esteem. Will there be any update on esteem app also.

So I see where a person can change their voting weight in eSteem, but as minnows we can't change until we have a certain amount of Steam Power? Is this correct? Can anyone answer this question?

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You get error message if after changing you cannot vote, but usually you are able to vote after changing voting up until certain weight. On Steemit, yes site has extra layer of rate checking, eSteem doesn't have that, change weight and try to vote, if you get error message (which is coming from blockchain) then adjust it higher, etc.

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I see, I think? Since I have basic the power of a penny, if I try to up vote with 1/4th a penny(25% weight), then Steemit won't be able to add that small of an amount? Am I getting that right?

so far like the voting power increase now to get 430 steem power to vote more then 10 times

nice post
thanks for sharing

Hello @good-karma ,

Thanks a lot for this super valuable advice ! Have been trying to figure It out for hours until I found your post.
Thanks again
@progressivechef

Thanks for the update! I started using eSteem yesterday on my Android device!

Thank you so much @good-karma

i am esteem user :)

Inspiring for me
Please upvote and follow me

Thanks for sharing this information.

What about pc users who can not manage percent of voting?

thank you @good-karma
but please update esteem on ios 10.2
its so laggy on my ipad air 2. :(

@good-karma bro yeah it increased and now u should upvote me too 😁😁

Thank you..I want voters vote me like you. How can I do.

Many thanks for your work)))

Great info ! Thanks for that

amazing news ☺ I think now that the earning on steemit is the best earning in all the web, and if we do our best here, we don't need any other work ☺

Thanks so much for this. As someone relatively new to the platform it's so exciting to see positive changes! Just noticed on your other post I was able to vote you for witness and I just did so. Really appreciate all the hard work that's gone into making Steemit such an incredible place. Thanks again!! :)

That is why I have given you my vote. @good-karma Keep us up to date!

Understood! Thanks. :)

cheers!for the success now there is more motivation for the newbies and thanks for sharing the info@good-karma

Good helpful info. Let's see how it goes.

Yeah... that slider is much needed now )
How much power regenerates per day? 20%?

how does one get on your comment path? :)))
best
@velimir

Thanx brother for the info !
Want to tell you;
As I am new to steemit, I like to follow people all over the world, Of different ages
Following you to learn more about the world you live in !
I hope you will check out my profile too now and then !
@saurabhgupta
Have awesome posts about the travelling ,poems, drawing, historical places, and the tech part.
I have upvoted and followed you.

I am combining my new post with all new/old bugs and minor enhancements, it will be ready by tomorrow.

So you get all you need in single post :D

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Great, looking forward to it... Update is almost ready, but I will review all #esteem-feedback posts before publishing to make sure we solve as many issues as possible... ;)

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Then may i get beta update? That would be better so i can remove the resolved bugs.

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Please make a post, since you have put some effort to it. There are few other things I need to fix before it is ready for beta, but I will make sure to ping you when it is ready ;)

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Sure, i will post it by tomorrow. ( 1%=2.54$ :yahoooooo: lol)

This update is pretty good in my opinion! I cant wait to get that slider in my hands :D (gonna take a while tho)

Yas!!!!!!! Blessings abound.... <3

good pos
i will try like then

Thanks for important info

I dont have the slide bar yet... What should i do?

You'll need 500 SP for the slider!

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On eSteem there is no limit, you can use slider however much SP you have, although some restrictions are there on blockchain level.

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That's certainly an advantage and a reason to be using the app for consuming content on the platform as 10 votes per day don't feel enough. Despite the fact that I have so little SP, I would still use the app at 50% so I can spread the little voting power available to me over 20 posts, instead of just 10.

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Nice feature, thanks for clearing that up for me.

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No problem glad it helped! Edit: Oh maybe that comment wasn't for me! 😊

that means minnows are getting temporary "bonus" now, right?
because for all those pending payouts, voting weights were not reduced but now payout calculated based on new formula.

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Bonus on voting yes, but voting too many with 100% will drain your voting power.

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yes it is retroactive for the potential payouts, you can read about the impact it had on my posts here

is is such a detailed post. If I can offer some advice? Its really great how much attention to detail is in here, but maybe trying to add some pictures or word emphasis sometimes. Other wise it can get boring and tiring to read such a long post. Good post anyways though!

Very very cool! This is the HF that will bring equality and hopefully more investors into steemit! Steem on

Great post! Thanks for your advice.

This is good to know. I think I was seeing the sliders on the app even though it has not shown in my Steemit Settings yet. So I'm going to try this new functionalities now.

I'm glad there will be more equality among all the users.
This is the best time to PowUp.

great change !!!!!!! waw

Previously

40 votes per day with 100% weight

Now
10 votes per day with 100% weight

In order to vote 40 times you should use 25% weight now.

Thank you for this I didn't really know anything about it

This HF is better than I could ever expect it to be... I am just wondering how long it will take for everything to adjust, because it is too good to be true lol

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It will correct itself soon enough... I suppose, we will see more users reaching bandwidth limit if they continue to vote 100% like before. It will take probably around 150 votes now to reach lowest level on voting power and would take few days until fully recharged, so we will get equilibrium :)

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People with very loyal followers will keep making more money and those who were the third or fifth choice to get an up-vote might see themselves earning less I guess. I'm still excited to see what will happen. Also, do you have any info about what happened to 100% upvotes before the HF? Did they adjust to become 4x more worthy?

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Because of linear reward curve those have adjusted. Few posts that had 2k declined to 1k and few doubled...

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Yeah, but I am talking about another thing. You know how 100 percent vote only took 0.5 percent of you voting power. I am wondering what happened to those 100 percent votes before HF19, did they adjust to become 25 percent votes or did they remain 100 percent votes, meaning that people won some free voting power?
Edit: because if the second scenario happened it means that the reward pool is 4x bigger at this very moment.

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Edited for simpler answer: When you cast a vote, you already use your voting power and regeneration starts. So those votes which was cast (100%) before HF adjusted to current 400%. Reward pool afaik shouldn't change.

Hi @good-karma, do we get a vote trail if we use e-steem? Similar to what chainbb is doing?

Thanks for the information,