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The thing is its not possible for me to flag all the abuse, id run out of SP before getting through 5% of it. I cant even bring down one spam post on trending, my downvote isnt powerful enough to take down something upvotted by bots. But if everyone chipped in with 1 free daily downvote for example, the burden wouldnt fall on any one person.
- BTW I do this shit all the time, I take the underdog side of a debate just to make sure the answer is full proof. I am in no way religious with my ideas and would love to have my awareness expanded by someone enlightening me.
And if people actually started downvoting spam that gets upvotted by bots maybe people would think twice before abusing the reward pool on crap posts. Something that just isnt possible to combat with the current system, bots broke the downvote game because I bought 1 mil SP and I am usesless vs trending spam, which should never happen, if a whale cant even step up to help then what are we doing?
@thecallmedan, we do that all the time, brother.
Our scope includes bid bot abuse. AFAIK, we are the ONLY abuse fighting project on Steem that will engage bid bot abuse specifically.
We generally try to target the most grevious cases to avoid unnecessary drama but sometimes the drama is unavoidable. It's often a thankless job but it feels good to at least put a dent in the rewards of the pretentious shitposters.
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To counter trending bid bot abuse you'd need 5mil+ SP fully dedicated to downvoting abuse. When a post gets 400$ in bot upvotes and it is spam not much any person can do is my point. I commend you on your efforts because right now it is a losing battle.
Yes, I agree to completely counter bid bot abuse would take an extraordinary amount of SP. That would be a war of attrition and indeed is a losing battle.
The more strategic target is to attack the ROI. Believe that approach requires much less stake to be effective, both financially and psychologically.
We don't even need to hit them all but rather make an example of a few every so often. When the rest realize they could also be hit and lose funds for boosting trash content, they may think twice otherwise they could be the unlucky winner of the flag lottery. 🚩
It's even better when we are able coordinate blacklist + unvote w/out refund from bot owners but that is kind of rare. We'll keep at it. 😉
If you ever see a blatant bid bot abuse, feel free to give us a shout at @steemflagrewards.
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It's a hurdle people need to overcome. It's worth the experiment to have free downvotes. I'm all for ways that will allow people to freely upvote and downvote.
Until that happens, this place will forever be inferior to the mainstream social media.
On the other hand, I'm also hesitant because many will not flag for whatever strange reason beyond the economical.
Meh, if the chain is gonna burn, it's gonna burn. I say we go for it.
When was the last time someone randomly flagged you, everyday for a long time? I mean it just doesnt happen and bullies can be dealt with by whales who are not bullies. One has a path of defense, right? I can defend flags from other whales, NP. I can't defend vs trending spam. Like I said, I love to have a debate about someone who is passionate agaisnt this topic and see what we can come up with. I do know that the current status quo has to go.
And I would think a 20$ downvote from a mega whale is not shit compared to a shit post that steals 400$ from the reward pool that not one person on the platform can defend agaisnt.
Consider I work with @anthonyadavisii, I can say the flags come sporadically and not random.
I'm open to changes, but we must have some coordination before opening this floodgate so we have all the support we need to do a street sweeper.
I also would like to see those guys consistently getting to the top of trending after @blocktrades' worker proposal starts siphoning their bought rewards.
Of course, that is why we debate and bring these things up so we can talk about solutions. Just turning a blind eye is not going to work.