I'm Going To Tell You How To Grow Steem

in #busy5 years ago (edited)

And you will likely continue to ignore me.

This post is directed at Whales, Orcas, Witnesses, Dolphins, @ned, SteemIt Inc. and Natural Leaders in the Community.

Modifying most human behavior is easy. There are outliers who will not fit into this, but mostly it works.

It is just this simple...

Reward behavior you want to see repeated.

Ignore or Punish behavior you want to stem or remove.

That's it.

But let me put it in Steem terms for you.

In the last week, I've tried to do exactly this...

Five days ago I made a post about a person who is a liar and a plagiarist. Behavior most of us would agree is bad.
https://steemit.com/steem/@whatsup/i-like-to-preach-about-flagging-sometimes

I suggested people go and flag the post. Which would be an example of Punishing Bad Behavior because you want it to stop.

What happened? Not much.. Some went and flagged it, but no one with significant stake. Edit... Steemcleaners did go back and flag it to zero... nice job! @steemcleaners

If the community would have reacted, others would say to themselves... I don't want to have that happen, that is expensive and embarrassing. The behavior begins to curb it's self.

The change happens quickly! It is easy.. Anyone with experience in Training, Coaching, Managing, Parenting will understand that this is a known method of getting what you want from other people.

So we rewarded bad behavior with a large payout. The behavior will like not change and will be emulated by others who see this success.

It is Reverse Incentive.

Three days ago I posted about a user who spent Fiat Money and bought Steem to become a Dolphin. That is nearly perfect behavior and what we want to see more of, so I asked you all to reward him. Some did, but most did not.

https://steemit.com/busy/@whatsup/congratulations-to-a-new-dolphin-and-my-advice-to-waphilip

Others see this and think, why hold or power up, no one cares.

However, if that post of his would have been well rewarded and held up as a positive example others would see that and they would either repeat the behavior or wish that they could.

If we continued to support him for holding and powering up, others would go... Ohhhh... I want to be treated like that. I am going to emulate that behavior.

You can take the same example and apply it to content..

No matter what type of content you like reward that heavily and you will see more of it.

If there is a type of content you dislike.. Flag it. You will see less of that behavior.

People are also highly motivated by feeling included in something that is cool and exclusive, we could build that culture.

Most people respond to praise over punishment.

Anyway, you guys can continue to talk about "Code Changes" While ignoring the site, the end users, and everything else.

Or you can engage or pay others to engage on your behalf.

We have what we currently have for no other reason than that is what we are rewarding and ignoring.

It just really is that simple.

If you want to accuse me of manipulation ask yourself why you have an annual review with your supervisor when she tells you want she wants from you and if you do it, she pays you more...

This is what having a monetized site is all about.

Now continue to ignore me.

:)

@whatsup

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I was extremely grateful for the exposure regardless of the post payout!

That being said, all of the engagement and upvotes definitely motivated to contribute to the community and try and emulate a good example of a dolphin! Thanks again!

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Welcome to dolphinhood @waphilip! I did the same thing. I took matters into my own hands and bought a bunch of Steem. Not only is it an investment in the platform which I believe we need more of, but an investment in Myself. I felt as though I would be more invested and take it a bit more seriously if I had something to actually lose. Ya know? So congrats and thanks for helping to make Steemit a better place. I’ll be following ya and seeing what you can do thanks to the constant brilliance of @whatsup! 😜

Thank you thank you! I followed you back! Great to be a part of the stake holders club!

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Thx brother. Also love that your profile pic is Miles!

Already know we’re gonna vibe! Miles is the 🐐! Can’t wait for the movie come Christmas!

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Yeah and it probably did impact a few users, it just would have been neat to see it get a huge response from stakeholders....

I would’ve probably lost it if all of the stake holders upvoted haha

But you’re right, we need to continue your example and use positive and negative reinforcement to our benefit!

Edit* I am freaking out because some huge bands just blessed my post! Thank you so much!

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Nice! I'm going to pump this post up some too, so... maybe it will continue.

Smart move. Thank you for believing in the platform. Over at Canna Curate we also believe.

Woah I didn’t even know there was a community like this! Love it 😤

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Hell yeah there is! haha. We started out small, but now we are a force to rekon with. Anybody and everyone is welcome.

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Welcome followed!

Great thing to do indeed!! And I can imagine the motivation! :-)
I am powering up as often as I can too, via Fiat now and then, and I just set up my witness node, to invest into the Steem community too! (Votes are welcome and appreciated btw ;-) )
I believe in the Steem platform and its community!

@whatsup: I’ve read your post, I’ve reread it. I understood it, and I will not ignore it, but bring it into practice! Thank you very much for writing it!

@whatsup,
At this price I told my father to buy STEEM! Hope he will do! I know it's not much, but if we all think like that, yeah STEEM will boost before SMT hits the ground!

Cheers~

Nice! I hope your Dad grabs some Steem.

Honestly I've seen a pile of toxic people and organizations.

@Canna-curate has done an excellent job of keeping things together.

Others have done more to be elitist cliques and hella judgemental.

These reasons have shut many people down from being here. And the hardfork? The RC?

I'm just lucky enough to have enough resource credits to have fun and play.

Never know what will happen. In the future. But with the amount of people leaving?

Oh I hit a good voting round... Let's just say the judgements about the "quality" of post I paid money for?

Well let's just say the offended rule here.

Personally I've cut back on being here. And the amount of effort I'm putting here.

Gone is the promoting and recruitment. Also the meet-ups for portland.

I still log some stuff and just did a 100 sp delegation for the information wars group.

So... I'm still here. But it's like a ghost town.

However voting rounds are open!

It's amazing what the small fish can accomplish when we ban together. Instead of sitting around and waiting for shit to happen, we take matters into our own hands and make it happen. As far as quality content, we need to encourage people to just come here and have fun. If you can write a great post or article, cool. But if you just want to tell people about your day, or just post a pic with a caption, then hell yeah. Nobody is better then anybody here, we are all equals.

I'll definitely blaze to that! It's all original here baby! Celebrate your individuality!

The traffic is lower for sure.

Yeah I know! Had a few friends quit over the drama with elamental and kennyskitchen over cowpocylapse.

And just the elitism and "quality" demands really put people off and down. The focus being on individuals and inclusion is better than even free beer. Though free beer does help.

And yeah I got burned by a few actual real friends over votes and popularity? Sweet! I didn't have to find out the hard way. I'm definitely going places. And here seems to just have soured for me recently.

But in all? If some changes were made? I think people would come back.

Canna-curate is the perfect example of how to be inclusive and reward original content.

Not everything has to be "high quality content" can't we inspire and reward people for trying?

Wait a second...let me see if I have this right.

You want people to reward the posts/users that they like...and not reward the posts/users that they don’t like?

This is a revolutionary concept!

But do you think it will work with social media? Isn’t behavior on social media just way too random and complicated to figure out? How are you so sure that antecedents and consequences still apply to human behavior in the interwebz? That incentives...you know...like...incentivize and stuff?

I agree with you bro

This whole thing reminds me of a story I heard once.

A semi-truck was transporting a large dumptruck when it became lodged under a bridge due to the height of the load.

Engineers, Hwy workers gathered to determine the best way to move the truck without doing further damage to the truck. They were calculating the strength of the bridge, the weight of the vehicles, etc.

A young boy happens along the scene and says... Why don't you let the air out of the tires on the dump truck.

I don't know if it is a true story or not...

Probably it's a question of lacking time invest.
Many use autovoting services and vote delegations nowadays, so the overall consumption of content has considerably decreased. I notice that when i publish videos - a year ago i had much more views on them.

So people have stopped to really consume content, which partly results in a distorted content evaluation you perfectly presented her.

Is it in the nature of things, a mirror of today's rushing and running society?

The site is ignored in my opinion because most of our stakeholders are not Leaders who understand human motivation.

They are developers, miners and traders who have extensive knowledge in valuable niche fields, but they are clearly not motivators or business people for the most part.

There is a lack of understanding that People control money. Motivate people and their dollars come with them. It's Business 101.

Yeah, you're touching another important point: there's always been a clear focus on investment and development. User experience, UI, content structure, content quality, curation and all that stuff has always been secondary - including the community of average internet users. In the end these are the ones who keep this place alive (and would ensure mass adoption ).

I believe that there needs to be a paradigm shift in management in order to ensure a healthy retention of human beings. Otherwise it'd be hard to seriously call this place a social blockchain...

Yeah, there needs to be a shift, but they could apply the same concept to development projects.

Applications want eyes and users. If Steem wants to attract application developers, a healthy, happy user base is a huge selling point.

I know I sound arrogant, but I totally don't think they get the idea that the value is in the traffic and the endusers. I don't think they get the business case at all.

I don't think you sound arrogant at all, you just struck a nerve and talk straight. That's what many - including myself - appreciate.

50K active users are not attractive or relevant in terms of business to any business. If we seriously aim for mainstream adoption, then we need a different approach. Retention doesn't require magic, but a product that attracts everybody.

I'm planning to voice those ideas at Steemfest and hope to enter some constructive debate.

You are 100% correct. They are niche people. We want them. But they don't understand the bigger vision and the bigger market when it comes to content and advertising and how they should work together. It's all just a bunch of "Where is my ROI?" focus from them right now. What Crypto that goes up and down in cost is an extremely small niche field of humans that are interested in that. There is a way bigger market to tap into.

Yes, I wonder if any of them consider "Who is our Target Audience" and how do we motivate them.

The "Call to Action" should be buy Steem. To those who can't buy Steem, they would try to earn and hold Steem.

This really isn't hard.

Yeah. Content creators are what can start a true movement. 1 content creator can move millions of people.

My little small YouTube stuff made a movement of 654,000,000 views. And that is just from 1 person (me) doing leverage and focusing on 1 niche.

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I did a longer video today talking about how you would be able to align everyone's best interest at heart. Content Creators/Stake Holders/Advertisers.

https://steemit.com/steem/@phoneinf/how-to-make-steem-blockchain-into-a-success-the-new-google-solution-by-nonameslefttouse

And it was from reading @nonameslefttouse ideas. First putting content creators first. Advertisers can have ad slots inside Steem posts. At the moment Advertisers and Content creators are competing side-by-side. Which is not how it should be. Content creators picking ads they want to promote would be able to make them earn forever from a post being created. Long term passive daily income.

In this way it's win-win on all sides. And it creates more transparency. It makes so every single piece of content can generate passive income from clicks on advertisements. Google has proven this system works and is ideal. It's mainstream friendly. Billion dollar industry. The Google of Crypto.

Content Creators, but also Application developers are going to be attracted to a blockchain with a community of potential users.

@whatsup The only problem with your suggestion is it works down the food chain and not upwards.
Whales and orcas can flag lower accounts down to discourage bad behaviour
Who will flag the whales?
I won't even name the silly ones cause they will probably start flagging me just to "exercise the right of their stake" smh

You are correct about that. The whales would have to police each other and as we both know that isn't happening.

I'm not sure I follow this 100%. Downvoting someone should not be up to people who got the most Steem. What makes them better people? They invested more or joined Steemit earlier? If someone should get punished it should be a group thing were everyone votes. And I would top off the maximum power one account can have in this voting. Once the group vote reaches a final threshhold, the account would get punished.

No one is suggesting they are better people they are the most invested people which means they have the most to win or lose from the value of Steem.

However, there is no reason that many minnows and redfish shouldn't also be able to weigh in with the entire weight of their stake.

whoa i love this and thank goodness i went and did the exact things you asked! to blow or not to blow ... it all makes sense ...

grasshopper eagle goes to flag ...

haha you can never tell the blow story.

Well this shines new light on the flagging system from a differen perspective. Thanks for opnening my eyes. Definetly going to flag more now.

It is our only tool for handling abuse, it was designed to keep the reward pool safe.

Here's another perspective on this: I spent 10-years gigging as a pro musician in the 90's and eventually the audience gets sick of you no matter how good one might be. It's the same here for the most part. I see that people buy their exposure here but most of the feedback is fake or trivial over the long run.
There are some really interesting and talented people here so it's not a complete washout but if one is attempting to monetize human thought via social media then one should expect tons of crap! Hey, how much literal crap do humans produce every day? Any Davo's genius' have the low down on that stat? Nevertheless, there is a whole shitload of mindcrap and as A.I. takes over it wouldn't be the worst idea to monetize it. But I get that's a tough sell.
'Fixing Steemit'? Not going to happen as it functions as intended, IMO...And, yes, there are pros and cons to that.

Sure lot's of shit is there, we will always have it... but we can also shape the the future and control who gets the rewards and where they go.

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